Big Sarge Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I lucked up recently and bought an H&R 45-70 Buffalo Classic, a 45 Colt Classic Carbine, a 38-55 Target Classic, and an extra 38-55 barrel. I'm thinking about rechambering the extra barrel to 38-90 Express. Has anyone on here ever played with this round? I believe I can make my brass from .405 Winchester. I plan on adding SASS legal sights and I'd appreciate suggestions on these. BTW, I can't find a Wesson & Harrington rear sight. Anyway, the goal is to use it in side matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 No, but it wasn't a popular caliber and became obsolete quickly ... Where to buy brass ... http://www.rockymountaincartridge.com/index_htm_files/RMC%20Product%20List.pdf Converting the 405's to 38-90? There is no parent case for the 38-90, so you'd best to just buy the brass Sight? Guess you didn't look on eBay ... http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=h%26r%20sights&clk_rvr_id=837634629082&adpos=1t1&MT_ID=69&crlp=39136764042_2416792&device=c&geo_id=10232&keyword=h%26r+sights&crdt=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sarge Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thanks for the heads up on the brass. I cab rechamber to 38-90 for $100 or rebore to 40-65 or 405 Win for $300. SASS legal rear sights are difficult to find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben McCoy Rankin # 34239 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Several of us around here are using these. http://stores.leeshavergunsmithing.com/economy-soule-type-sights/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Sarge, I already posted you the link to complete original H&R rear sights and now you say AGAIN they are hard to find. Guess you never read the post and went to the eBay link. Let's try it again! http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=h%26r%20sights&clk_rvr_id=837634629082&adpos=1t1&MT_ID=69&crlp=39136764042_2416792&device=c&geo_id=10232&keyword=h%26r+sights&crdt=0 And if for some reason you don't want ORIGINAL H&R rear sights that are SASS approved - you can always put a vernier or peep sight on the stock because there is no tang from the receive Come on Sarge, give me a break! And PS ...you better read the manual about legal ammunition if you decide to go to the 405 Winchester - it ain't pre 1898! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I would lean towards .40-65, the same as the .40-60. This cartridge was used in a number of guns and still can be found. One local cowboy had a 'smith silver solder an original Trapdoor rear sight towards the breech end of his barrel on an H&R single shot. It looks authentic and works pretty well. The numbers on the ladder are not correct, but he made a cheat sheet for standard distances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sarge Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Sarge, I already posted you the link to complete original H&R rear sights and now you say AGAIN they are hard to find. Guess you never read the post and went to the eBay link. Let's try it again! http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=h%26r%20sights&clk_rvr_id=837634629082&adpos=1t1&MT_ID=69&crlp=39136764042_2416792&device=c&geo_id=10232&keyword=h%26r+sights&crdt=0 And if for some reason you don't want ORIGINAL H&R rear sights that are SASS approved - you can always put a vernier or peep sight on the stock because there is no tang from the receive Come on Sarge, give me a break! And PS ...you better read the manual about legal ammunition if you decide to go to the 405 Winchester - it ain't pre 1898! John Boy - Are your snippy remarks necessary when someone is asking for help????? Your Ebay link shows receiver mounted peep sights. I was looking for something similar to the Wesson & Harrington sight which is easily mounted. Another fine pard on here gave me a link to Brownell's where the Smith ladder sight is in stock. BTW, I mistyped when I mentioned 405 Winchester. I was planning on using 405 Winchester brass because John Donnelly's 'Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions' states the .38-90 Win. Express can be made from .405 Winchester brass. I do appreciate your link to the brass from Rocky Mountain Cartridge. Reuben - Would I need to instal a false tang to mount a tang sight. I'm concerned about stability Tom - A Buffington sight might be an option. I never thought of that. BTW, I have a Gemmer Trapdoor in 40-65 and I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Silverfinger, SASS#3444 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 along similar lines, I am interested in a 38-55 barrel to fit to my 45-70 Buffalo Classic. Anyone seen or have any for sale?????????7 Just askin' Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben McCoy Rankin # 34239 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 John Boy - Are your snippy remarks necessary when someone is asking for help????? Your Ebay link shows receiver mounted peep sights. I was looking for something similar to the Wesson & Harrington sight which is easily mounted. Another fine pard on here gave me a link to Brownell's where the Smith ladder sight is in stock. BTW, I mistyped when I mentioned 405 Winchester. I was planning on using 405 Winchester brass because John Donnelly's 'Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions' states the .38-90 Win. Express can be made from .405 Winchester brass. I do appreciate your link to the brass from Rocky Mountain Cartridge. Reuben - Would I need to instal a false tang to mount a tang sight. I'm concerned about stability I have seen them mounted with a inlaid tang and just screwed to the stock. Both seem to work equally well. Tom - A Buffington sight might be an option. I never thought of that. BTW, I have a Gemmer Trapdoor in 40-65 and I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I was planning on using 405 Winchester brass because John Donnelly's 'Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions' states the .38-90 Win. Express can be made from .405 Winchester brass. Sarge, I hate to be wrong but I am ... the 38-90 is a simple reform using 405's! I have a table of 1160 conversions that says no parent case for the 38-90. I looked up the 38-90 in my Donnelly's and yep - the 405 is the parent. Here's what your costs will be: $147 - Pacific Reamer ...4D doesn't have the reamer for rent $110 - CH4D FL Die $ 9 - CH4D Shell Holder $55 - Hornaday 405 Win Cases - box of 50 $321 - Total and add shipping Then you have to buy sights ... W&H = $169 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusz M. Dutch SASS Life 55326 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Wow a 38/90 Sounds kool.. What would a full case of BP give you and a 255 slug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusz M. Dutch SASS Life 55326 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 looks like about 1600 fps http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32633 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sarge Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'm trying to figure things out. With my TBI, I struggle to get somethings in place. I'm hoping Classic Barrel & Gunworks can fix it for me. I have to gave pretty clear instructions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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