Widder, SASS #59054 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Hey Pards, by request of Red Knee in Oklahoma and Korupt Karl in Indiana, I decided to make a couple videos and post them here on the Wire, in which it might help someone alittle. These videos were taken on 2 separate evenings here at the bunkhouse. and YES, it took me a few runs to get these particular runs that I wanted to share. The other runs will probably be submitted to 'Bloopers' TV..... EDIT: In the video, I mention the names of some of our best 'Over the Top' loaders like Deuce, Santa Fe River Stan and Arcadia Outlaw. I also meant to mention Two Gun Tuco, Prestidigitator, and of course Red Knee. If I were shooting a 97 and loading over the top, any of these pards that are still active in our game, would be someone I would be getting instructions and info from concerning techniques, etc... I hope you enjoy and maybe learn something. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Avenger Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Looks good I'm sorry Red Knee Billy the Avenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Knee Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Hey Billy, Ol' Widder's pretty smooth.....i'm gonna make him earn it at Hellfire this year... Come on to Hellfire and witness first hand a long haired country boy showing respect for his elders....I'm gonna be very respectful and polite as I whoop up on him!! Red Knee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 Billy, the last time Red Knee and I went head to head was HellFire 2013. I timed him on Speed SG. When I gave him the beep, my hair was dark. When he finished his run, it had started to turn gray. just sayin............. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestidigitator Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Billy, the last time Red Knee and I went head to head was HellFire 2013. I timed him on Speed SG. When I gave him the beep, my hair was dark. When he finished his run, it had started to turn gray. just sayin............. ..........Widder Ouch.... haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Avenger Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Hey Red Knee That's funny Billy, the last time Red Knee and I went head to head was HellFire 2013. I timed him on Speed SG. When I gave him the beep, my hair was dark. When he finished his run, it had started to turn gray. just sayin............. ..........Widder It was great meeting you in Oklahoma we had a blast, thanks for letting my try your pistols I don't know if we can make it to hell fire But I am going to buy stock in winchester I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of hulls fired Maybe a top gun shoot out with all shotgun targets Billy the Avenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed I. Knight, SASS #36423 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Good to see ya Widder. I'll remember your advice here should I ever find myself with a '97 in my shoulder. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oklahoma Dee Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 real nice vid. Thanks okdee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rider Rudy Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 That's how i try to do it. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I shoot doubles most of the time so please forgive an ignorant question. It looks like you are pulling the trigger before the bolt is all the way forward, so I guess you are slam-firing each shot. Is that correct? Good videos, and thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 Howdy J-Bar, YES, you are correct. It is the Slam Fire technique. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Buck Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Thanks for taking the time for the videos. I learned a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purly SASS # 57438 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Widder, good video I shot with Widder today. He live fires as well as he dry fires. Look out Red Knee he was hot today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Knee Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Widder, good video I shot with Widder today. He live fires as well as he dry fires. Look out Red Knee he was hot today. Hey Purly, Thanks for the update on Widder..... Glad to hear he was shootin' good....I really want him to be able to put up a good fight. As much as he dry fires every day....he may have "just enough" practice time between now and September to be able to hang with me.... Red Knee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 First off Widder............good videos. Might give that method a try. Now.....in the 1st video I thought weren't coming back! ...................and your bunkhouse reminds me of a garage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Wyatt, you thought 'what' wasn't coming back? RED KNEE: with your reputation West and East of the Mississippi, I don't think its me you need to be ready for at HellFire. You might want to be getting ready for pards like Prestidigitator, Matt Black, Phantom and other Borgs like them..... ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Sorry you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Outlaw, SASS 71385 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Great video's Widowmaker ! AO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Hurts SASS#72737 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Now not only is Widder fast but that is as smooth a technique as I have seen. I Shoot my long guns left handed and I cannot seem to hit the port on a consistent angle and then get the 2nd shell (I pull 2 at a time) in a good position to load and fire fast and smooth. Great videos and if any of you left handed 97 shooters want to share your mojo, well I would be grateful Wyatt Hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Knee Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Now not only is Widder fast but that is as smooth a technique as I have seen. I Shoot my long guns left handed and I cannot seem to hit the port on a consistent angle and then get the 2nd shell (I pull 2 at a time) in a good position to load and fire fast and smooth. Great videos and if any of you left handed 97 shooters want to share your mojo, well I would be grateful Wyatt Hurts Hey Wyatt, Always a pleasure to find another left handed 97 shooter... I think Duece made a video for shootin the 97 left handed by pulling 2 at a time...if you can find it that would be extremely helpful. He's da man! I pull four at a time so my technique is a little different....if ya can't find Duece's video gimme a shout and I'd be glad to show ya what I know... Red Knee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Hurts SASS#72737 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Searching for that video and sent you a PM. Still hypnotic watching Widder but man I need me a left hander to school me some. Wyatt Hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Hurts SASS#72737 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Hey Wyatt, Always a pleasure to find another left handed 97 shooter... I think Duece made a video for shootin the 97 left handed by pulling 2 at a time...if you can find it that would be extremely helpful. He's da man! I pull four at a time so my technique is a little different....if ya can't find Duece's video gimme a shout and I'd be glad to show ya what I know... Red Knee Hi pard, just found his video. I can get a lot out of watching this! Now if I had hands the size of Duece I could pull 8 shells I think! Wyatt Hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Wyatt, type in that youtube site: and it will bring that video up for all of us to see it. Deuce is a great teacher of good techniques and his videos are worth watching. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spades Hanlin SASS#66204 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Hey Widder,Ya done fergot to tell them your finger tips look like a tree frogs!!! With them sticky little suction cups on the tips... Spades H. JUST SAYIN, it makes a differance ya know!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Frank Norfleet Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 And now for the Marlin rifle videos ?????? L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Ringer Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Ok...I'm impressed! Gets me thinking about blowin' the dust and rust off my 97's??? Regards, Ringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 thas a very good video!!!! he does it the way I do when I shoot the 97!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 I probably got 1 more video. Its the FUN part of dry firing practice. I call it "Smack The Timer" and you will enjoy it. And it will probably make you laugh alittle. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 That's somethin' Widder. All you guys shooting a pump like that are a real treat to watch. I notice more folks go over the top it seems. Some add a twist to their gun. What have you noticed? Then there is Ozark Az ....I notice he loads his first two over the top and the remaining to the side like you. It appears he does this to maybe load left handed while initially shoulders the shotgun right handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Hurts SASS#72737 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Wyatt, type in that youtube site: and it will bring that video up for all of us to see it. Deuce is a great teacher of good techniques and his videos are worth watching. ..........Widder Here it is Like I said give me paws like that and a few thousand hours of practice and..... I still would look slow in comparison Wyatt Hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Hurts SASS#72737 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Hey Widder, Ya done fergot to tell them your finger tips look like a tree frogs!!! With them sticky little suction cups on the tips... Spades H. JUST SAYIN, it makes a differance ya know!!! Hummmmmmmmmm suction cups, How can I add them and call them an internal modification I wonder? Wyatt Hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korupt Karl Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Widder....you are the man. and a Borg like Deuce.....the videos you both put out have and will continue to help all shooters. Widder between GF and the 97 and your work with the Marlin......you are an inspiration and have motivated me to practice......wish me luck. Deuce, you are so unique as you can do it all.....and I don't have to say more....anyone who watches you shoot recognizes the talent, speed and technique no matter what gun or style.. You guys, as well as other top shooters continue to help and assist so many. Thanks guys. KK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Hurts SASS#72737 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I probably got 1 more video. Its the FUN part of dry firing practice. I call it "Smack The Timer" and you will enjoy it. And it will probably make you laugh alittle. ..........Widder Alright Pard, Let's see us some time smacking Wyatt Hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Widowmaker, is the '97 in those vids the new CC version? NICE job on the videos OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 Howdy Lumpy. No, the '97 in those videos is an 09 series I got a couple years back and set up by Colt McAllister. I use it strickly for dryfire practice. It has probably 10,000 + cycles thru it. I have replaced the Ejector a couple times and tweaked the right side Extractor but other than that, its still hangin in there. Of special note: I have my hammer tension screws on ALL my 97's torqued down as tight as possible because I want my hammers to fall as fast and hard as possible. I've had many folks check out my SG's and tell me I could make that hammer lighter and make it feel better. But in reality, when we are on the firing line and working the SG hard, I don't notice its stiffness. I like a FAST hammer. The NEW '97 (I have 2 of them now) are just as smoooooth and slick and I only use them for my main match competition. They are just as fast, very reliable and a real kicker of empties. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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