Big Sarge Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I'm sickened by the latest NRA update. The BATF will require an explosives permit for an individual to purchase powder or primers effective July 1st. This is based upon a 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling that the manufacture of ammunition is a manufacture of an explosive device. Ruling was issued on 31 MAR 2015. I am filing my application for a permit ASAP. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Below is reference material for the ruling. I'll post the NRA-ILA emergency action as soon as I can. ATF’s jurisdiction over explosives extends to requiring licenses to engage in the business of importing, manufacturing and/or distributing explosives materials. An ATF permit is also required to ship, transport, or receive explosives. ATF inspects the explosives storage magazines and records of explosives licensees and permittees on a regular basis to ensure compliance with federal explosives regulations. Exemptions from the federal explosives laws are contained in 18 U.S.C. § 845. http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/opinions/ https://www.atf.gov/content/explosives/explosives-industry/how-become-federal-explosives-licensee-FEL Link to comment
Big Sarge Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Look at the ruling. It also cited the need for chemically tagging ammunition for forensic identification. I'm not quite sure what that would entail, but I figure some one on here could enlighten us. Link to comment
Cypress Sun Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The way I read it is......this new ruling only applies to folks who shoot CAS in the buff. Link to comment
guitar_slinger Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The way I saw it is if you reload less than 1 round a year and buy no more than 5gr of powder, you may be able to apply for an exemption. Link to comment
Krazy Kajun Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I'm sickened by the latest NRA update. The BATF will require an explosives permit for an individual to purchase powder or primers effective July 1st. This is based upon a 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling that the manufacture of ammunition is a manufacture of an explosive device. Ruling was issued on 31 MAR 2015. I am filing my application for a permit ASAP. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Below is reference material for the ruling. I'll post the NRA-ILA emergency action as soon as I can. ATF’s jurisdiction over explosives extends to requiring licenses to engage in the business of importing, manufacturing and/or distributing explosives materials. An ATF permit is also required to ship, transport, or receive explosives. ATF inspects the explosives storage magazines and records of explosives licensees and permittees on a regular basis to ensure compliance with federal explosives regulations. Exemptions from the federal explosives laws are contained in 18 U.S.C. § 845. http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/opinions/ https://www.atf.gov/content/explosives/explosives-industry/how-become-federal-explosives-licensee-FEL edited.....totally bit on this one :blink: Link to comment
Tyrel Cody Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I did not see the opinion you spoke of in the first link....to the uscourts.gov/opinions. Is there a specific case number or something? In looking at opinions filed 31MAR2015 there are none shown that concerning the ATF. I must be overlooking something here....any help is appreciated. I REALLY hope this is a bad Aptil Fool's joke; because I din't see anything either. Link to comment
G. I. Tarpicker, SASS #998 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Um.....FWIW, has anyone noticed today's date? -- GIT Link to comment
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I did, I did. I understand that it only applies on April 1, to those that are shooting CAS in the buff. Link to comment
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The way I read it is......this new ruling only applies to folks who shoot CAS in the buff. I also noticed on Page 3, section 211, that it exempts Gunfighters... ..........Widder Link to comment
Henry T Harrison Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I did, I did. I understand that it only applies on April 1, to those that are shooting CAS in the buff. Wait that would be me Link to comment
guitar_slinger Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Wait that would be me Reminder to Guitar Slinger, avoid matches with Henry. Link to comment
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Or wear black glasses. Link to comment
Shawnee McGrutt Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 A blindfold would be better. Link to comment
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I can't believe that this got moved....... LL Link to comment
Calico Mary Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I can't believe that this got moved....... LL sum folks jus dunt git tha idea of a "joke"...... Link to comment
Eyesa Horg Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Remember a lot of us are getting older, 'ya damn near gave me a heart attack! If I had any guns or reloading supplies the last thing I want is BATF at my door for inspections. My hearts still palpitating. The was a rough one! Link to comment
Big Sarge Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Geez, it's tough to pull one over on this crowd. Believe it or not, a bunch of folks fell for it on the hunting forum I frequent. Anyway, I hope all of you have had a good April Fool's Day. Link to comment
Tyrel Cody Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Geez, it's tough to pull one over on this crowd. Believe it or not, a bunch of folks fell for it on the hunting forum I frequent. Anyway, I hope all of you have had a good April Fool's Day. You too! The key for me was the NRA update that I didn't get Link to comment
Warhorse Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The really scary thing about this "notice" is that, with the government we now have, this may well be a real possibility. I had to check todays date and the follow on comments to be sure that it really was an April Fool thing. Yikes! Warhorse Link to comment
Colonel Dan, SASS #24025 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Such a post on this forum with this vigilant crowd and in view of this radical administration, I can see where this might cause a stampede in the vein of "War of the Worlds" radio broadcast. OK guys, let's get back to real world battles. Link to comment
Rye Miles #13621 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Whew!!! Don't do that anymore!!! Link to comment
Banjer Pickett Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Fer heaven's sake don't be givin' em no ideas either! Link to comment
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