Dusty Balz, SASS#46599 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Just saw he emergency landed at a Venice golf course , appears to be a Fairchild PT 19. Early report he's critical and enroute to medics Hope he's okay Update ---- FAIR condition
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Looks like he missed the nice flat fairway by about a hundred yards. Reports are all over the map from "some facial cuts" to serious to critical condition.
Clay Mosby Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Sure hope he can recover fully from whatever injuries he sustained. As soon as I saw the initials TMZ on the report I stopped reading it.
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/03/05/harrison-ford-reportedly-injured-in-calif-plane-crash/
Dusty Balz, SASS#46599 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Posted March 6, 2015 Fox reporting he's okay , some cuts Bob Hoover always said " fly it as fat into the crash as you can" Well done mr ford , hope you're back in the air soon
Dusty Balz, SASS#46599 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Posted March 6, 2015 Correction on aircraft. Ryan PT-22 Recruit. Appears to be a real nice one too
Aunt Jen Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Harrison Ford flies into our airport, sometimes. I've never seen him here, though. I've seen him twice at Oshkosh, though. He seems slow of action, a considered thinker, and I think he has a good reputation as a pilot. The PT-22 -- seen many of them fly over the years. Antique. If it had the 5 cylinder Kinner engine on the front, then it was very cute. They even sound cute. And on those antiques (we used to own a 1937 SR-9B), numerous things can happen.... One thing a pilot never practices in real life is a forced landing in a real emergency. Or, I hope not. When the engine quits (or other problem), you will have to rely on your training and do the best yo ucan, but NO ONE can second-guess the guy in the cockpit. Many factors---altitude, speed, weather conditions, terrain below, populated areas vs sparse, nature of the emergency, type aircraft, landing speed or Vso (dirty stalling speed).....lots---go into it, and you may have only seconds to get 'er done. He obviously had an emergency and had to put down. Like most everyone else, he couldn't have practiced for it, not really. He put down on a golf course (one of the good spots we're told, a lot, by instructors), and however hard the landing was, he survived, so GREAT for him! I'm proud of him. That is no kind of easy situation to be in.
Aunt Jen Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Yes, on Bob Hoover, and I've hard Sean Tucker say the same thing, and my hubby (old commercial-grade test pilot), Tony LeVier, etc. Even while the thing is crashing, you keep flying it, keep trying, because something may help and likely will. (I'm an old instructor, and these are normal conversations for us old farts at the airport, sharing.)
JudgeBagodonuts Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 What kind of stereotype is it when it is reported that there were 2 doctors on the golf course (who came to Ford's aid)?
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Correction on aircraft. Ryan PT-22 Recruit. Appears to be a real nice one too Another correction: WAS a nice one. They said he has survived numerous crashes. That gives me pause.
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 My instructor pilot always said "try not to hit anything real hard." You don't quit trying to fly it, till your speed is zero and your unbuckling. Oh, and flying into the side of a mountain WILL ruin your whole weekend. Mr Ford got it down in one piece. It would appear he was also rapidly running out of uncluttered real estate. Nice job. Coffinmaker
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Forgot. "Augers in" is usually used to describe fitting a lot of airplane into a very small hole. Mr Ford did not "Auger in." Coffinmaker
Elk Creek LeMieux Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Forgot. "Augers in" is usually used to describe fitting a lot of airplane into a very small hole. Mr Ford did not "Auger in." Coffinmaker VS, scattered one... Augered in always sounded more descriptive of a helo crash to me.
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Augered= un-recovered spin. looks like he set it down the best he could given his situation. At least it was still recognizable
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 "Fighter plane." "The propeller acts like a lawn mower or a backhoe..." LORD save us from news reporters.
Aunt Jen Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Okay. QUIZ Non pilots: what is a propeller for on he front of an airplane? It keeps the pilot cool. If it stops, the pilot starts sweating. (old joke. Hoe non-pilots haven't heard it before. (
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 I think I kicked the slats outta my bassinet the first time I heard that one... Haw! Seriously, though, these knot-heads haven't a clue about most of what they report. They should all be named Homer. Doh...!
Dusty Balz, SASS#46599 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Posted March 6, 2015 "Fighter plane." "The propeller acts like a lawn mower or a backhoe..." LORD save us from news reporters. +1
Aunt Jen Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 True. I once set a "world record.". True. It was a simple one that did nit matter to anyone else. It was a "speed" record, but it was in a slow class of plane--simple A to B flight, paired cities, a throwback times when an aviator times a run between two cities. For my run: 28 hrs. 36 min., 9 seconds from OSHkosh, Wisconsin to Van Nuys, CA. It was really an endurance run...because the plane was so slow. Can I fly exhausted. But it counted. Bob Hoover gave me tge award. I had to land 6 times for fuel and caught 2.5 hours sleep at the FBO in Colby Kansas while a thunder storm blew by. Point is: The Los Angrles Times called me 3 times. I told them all this. THEY REPORTED that I flew nearly 24 hours without landing. They blew the whole thing---- Garsh
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Hey, Jen... I have a very clear memory of being four years old and standing on a box so I could watch Dad work on the car... and pointing to the fan and saying "Hey, Dad! There's the propeller! That's what pulls the car down the road!"
Aunt Jen Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 That's right!!! I KNEW IT!! THAT's what that's for!
Dusty Balz, SASS#46599 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Posted March 6, 2015 True. I once set a "world record.". True. It was a simple one that did nit matter to anyone else. It was a "speed" record, but it was in a slow class of plane--simple A to B flight, paired cities, a throwback times when an aviator times a run between two cities. For my run: 28 hrs. 36 min., 9 seconds from OSHkosh, Wisconsin to Van Nuys, CA. It was really an endurance run...because the plane was so slow. Can I fly exhausted. But it counted. Bob Hoover gave me tge award. I had to land 6 times for fuel and caught 2.5 hours sleep at the FBO in Colby Kansas while a thunder storm blew by. Point is: The Los Angrles Times called me 3 times. I told them all this. THEY REPORTED that I flew nearly 24 hours without landing. They blew the whole thing---- Garsh Aunt Jen , you're too cool Can I trouble you for a BFR?
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 News men,MEH. It's military connected so it must be a fighter plane.......sheesh
Boon Doggle Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Just think how much smarter reporters and news people in general would look if they spent five minuets on Wikipedia before they opened their big mouths. The world just might be a better place. Not nearly as funny though.
Aunt Jen Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Aunt Jen , you're too cool Can I trouble you for a BFR? I am still a current CFI, but not now holding self to public.
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Okay. QUIZ Non pilots: what is a propeller for on he front of an airplane? It keeps the pilot cool. If it stops, the pilot starts sweating. (old joke. Hoe non-pilots haven't heard it before. ( My Mother(WW2, WASP)told me that joke, the first time I flew with her. OLG
Chili Ron Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Howdy, When airports change planes and takeoff patterns etc sometimes formerly quiet neighborhoods get blasted by noise. People in those homes are stuck as no one wants to buy in such noise. But it might work to have the neighborhood get together, buy houses in a quieter area and then tear down the houses and build a golf course. Seems like having a golf course near an airport would work well. for what its worth. Best CR
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Okay, folks... We've seen the pictures; so do any of y'all think the craft may fly again...? And Chili, golf courses are very often to be found near airports. It's a good plan!
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Okay, folks... We've seen the pictures; so do any of y'all think the craft may fly again...? And Chili, golf courses are very often to be found near airports. It's a good plan! Yup-It's fixable. HF gots the 'bucks' to do it also. OLG
Aunt Jen Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Okay, folks... We've seen the pictures; so do any of y'all think the craft may fly again...? ------- If u find and thing okay, u can build around it anew. And that plane is so rare someone may. But I think it may more likely go for parts. And Chili, golf courses are very often to be found near airports. It's a good plan!
DocWard Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 According to a couple of accounts by pilots from the area, he did a good job of flying it to the scene of the crash.
Elk Creek LeMieux Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Okay, folks... We've seen the pictures; so do any of y'all think the craft may fly again...? And Chili, golf courses are very often to be found near airports. It's a good plan! All you need is the data plate. If that survives you can build a brand new plane around it.
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Okay, folks... We've seen the pictures; so do any of y'all think the craft may fly again...? Yeah. It's just bent a bit.
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