Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I noticed that when ice cream got metric my old half gallon size got smaller than it used to be and cost the same. And just what cowboy is going to walk into the Saloon and order 750 ml bottle of rye whiskey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Is there any other nation out there besides the U.S. that uses the SAE system of measurement as their standard? Seems like the rest of the world uses the metric system and we are lagging behind. Well, I remember my Dad sayin' "If everybody else was to jump off a cliff, would you do it, too"? I think the rest of the world has followed the wrong path, and we're doing just fine. Metric measurements are cold and mechanical and unforgiving; SAE is traditional, with a bit of give here and there, and even some romance. How would your beloved like it if you brought her 10 roses instead of 12, and explained that 10 is a metric dozen? Think she would be impressed with your metric correctness? LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Deck 100366 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Does any rational person give a damn what any other country does? I sure don't. Considering the fact that our modern world functions on the model of global industry and that our national economy is closely tied to trade with other countries that use the metric system would say yes, many rational people give a very very big "damn" what other countries do. The United States included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Considering the fact that our modern world functions on the model of global industry and that our national economy is closely tied to trade with other countries that use the metric system would say yes, many rational people give a very very big "damn" what other countries do. The United States included. If we were (maybe still are, but it's questionable) the most economically powerful, militarily powerful, socially powerful nation on Earth, why don't they conform to US? I've heard my whole life about how "they do it differently" in some chicken little backwater hole that we've saved from destruction by some other chicken little backwater hole several times in our history and how great their society, culture, history, and monuments are. The French, Spaniards, and others throw all thisi at us but can't show anything they've done that compared to us in the last 200+ years. I, for one, am sick and tired of it. Jingoism isn't necessarily a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 All the calibers I love are standard……..357, .45. .44WCF. .380, .38spl., .223, .45-70 and on and on…………….. 9mm ?? eh, so so! AND 30-06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Deck 100366 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 If we were (maybe still are, but it's questionable) the most economically powerful, militarily powerful, socially powerful nation on Earth, why don't they conform to US? I've heard my whole life about how "they do it differently" in some chicken little backwater hole that we've saved from destruction by some other chicken little backwater hole several times in our history and how great their society, culture, history, and monuments are. The French, Spaniards, and others throw all thisi at us but can't show anything they've done that compared to us in the last 200+ years. I, for one, am sick and tired of it. Jingoism isn't necessarily a bad thing. Point taken. I see you are passionate about the topic. That's good. People need things to be passionate about. Keep in mind there are LOTS of things that have been invented outside of the United States that have changed the face of modern society. We are not the benevolent overlords of the earth. We are just the only remaining superpower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shoer 27979 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 They measure horses in "hands", don't know if metric or SAE hands however, Huh I know they do, I have been a Carpenter and Horseshoer for 25 years That guy that Joe was talking about was talking about hands in a mile not hands in a horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echeconnee Drifter Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 BTW, a furlong is also known as a lug, a pole, a perch, and an ancient Roman stadium. It equals 40 rods, 220 yards, 660 feet, 1/8 mile, 10 chains, 100 links, and the length (and also the width) of a square acre. Incorrect. An acre is one furlong in length and one chain in width. The name furlong is likely a reference to the long furrows plowed by man and ox power in the middle ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echeconnee Drifter Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I had a long online discussion with a fellow who was convinced that the metric system is far superior to the English (Standard) system. He kept going on about how rational it was - everything in 10s, etc. You should have told him that the standard measurements were all considered rational by everyone when they were adopted. Then asked if in another few hundred years if his descendants will be the minority defending metric as some backward non-rational unit of measurement by others who have some new fangled "superior" system. Additionally, the standard measurements are often based on the power of 2. This is most easily demonstrated with liquid volume measures. 2 gills make 1 cup. 2 cups make 1 pint. 2 pints make 1 quart. 2 quarts make 1 pottle. 2 pottles make 1 gallon. So you end up with 2 gills in 1 cup, 4 gills in 1 pint, 8 gills in 1 quart, 16 gills in 1 pottle, and 32 gills in 1 gallon. Dry volume is similar. 2 gallons make 1 peck. 2 pecks make 1 kenning. 2 kennings make 1 bushel. There's no denying though that the standard distance measurements make no sense at all. 1 foot is 12 inches. 1 yard is 3 feet. 1 rod is 16.5 feet. 1 chain is 66 feet. 1 furlong is 10 chains. 1 mile is 8 furlongs. So you end up with 36 inches in a yard, 198 inches in a rod, 792 inches in a chain, 7,920 inches in a furlong, and 63,360 inches in a mile. There's just no rhyme or reason to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major E A Sterner #12916 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Just be glad your cars and trucks aren't Withworth nuts & bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 BTW, a furlong is also known as a lug, a pole, a perch, and an ancient Roman stadium. It equals 40 rods, 220 yards, 660 feet, 1/8 mile, 10 chains, 100 links, and the length (and also the width) of a square acre. OOops, 660 feet is not the side of a square acre. An acre is 43560 sq feet, if th acre is square, a side would be 208.710+ feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 IIRC, all the screw threads on the M1873 Springfield except the rear sight are actually metric or close to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Incorrect. An acre is one furlong in length and one chain in width. The name furlong is likely a reference to the long furrows plowed by man and ox power in the middle ages. Yep, you're right. I don't make many mistakes, but pobody's nerfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 Yep, you're right. I don't make many mistakes, but pobody's nerfect. Yeah, $£!t hapen$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Our farms were labor size =177.1 acres per labor. Thats about 1/25th of a league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 How big is a Major League? A bowling league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 Our farms were labor size =177.1 acres per labor. Thats about 1/25th of a league. Not possible. A league is a linear measure, an acre is an area measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Ron Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Howdy, I think we needs to go shoot something..... Best CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Jeemes Kelly Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I always felt like the metric system was a crutch for people who are bad at math. I was thinking the same when I clicked the thread. I ride a Harley and live in America - I rarely find any need to use metric for anything in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Howdy, I think we needs to go shoot something..... Best CR I agree, but the selection of possible tragets is almost endless. It's a target rich environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Act 4, Scene 1, Shakespeare's The Taming of the Shrew... Curtis calls Grumio " a three inch fool." It just doesn't sound as insulting to tell a guy he's a 7.62 centimeter fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Not possible. A league is a linear measure, an acre is an area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Linear it is 2.5 something miles. Area wise it is ~4428 acres. The old Spanish land grants in Texas consisted of leagues and labors. Our farm was labor number xxxx in League XXXX. Look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 The unites of 10, are easy to remember. OLG Easy to remember, not easy to measure like standard. Is there any other nation out there besides the U.S. that uses the SAE system of measurement as their standard? Seems like the rest of the world uses the metric system and we are lagging behind. The United States of America has always been a loner, check the history, then check what happen when the Quiet Giant was once awaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Easy to remember, not easy to measure like standard. Sure it is-with the correctly calibrated tools. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I believe I'll have another! Don't care how you measure it as long as it's enough. And there's more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Linear it is 2.5 something miles. Area wise it is ~4428 acres. The old Spanish land grants in Texas consisted of leagues and labors. Our farm was labor number xxxx in League XXXX. Look it up. I prefer National League because of the DH rule in the American. (and I suspect the DH rule is metric) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I'm rather fond of arshins myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I prefer National League because of the DH rule in the American. (and I suspect the DH rule is metric) Dang sure easier to keep straight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I prefer National League because of the DH rule in the American. (and I suspect the DH rule is metric) My home team is the Cleveland Indians and they're in the American League. I wish they'd get rid of the DH ALREADY!!! It's make a more interesting game!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I do know one thing, anymore I reach for a metric wrench first, then the standard. Do they have that problem in Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeBagodonuts Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 If you want to see sae measurements in action, take a look at the post on your ratchet, where the socket is plugged in. Doesn't matter where you are, you'll see that post is an even multiple of 1/8" (1/4, 3/8, 1/2, 3/4, 1", etc...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 My home team is the Cleveland Indians and they're in the American League. I wish they'd get rid of the DH ALREADY!!! It's make a more interesting game!! Hell, if they got rid of Cleveland they would have a more interesting game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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