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Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770

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Who has experience cold bluing a gun barrel? Not just a touch up, but the whole barrel.

I've seen the videos, listened to the testimonials, but I would like some opinions based on real world experience. What looks best, what lasts, how easy or hard to do without special equipment.

 

Sgt. C.J. Sabre

 

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I used cold blue on an old Stephens .22. Careful polishing and de-greasing will give a very nice finish. But it is not as durable as hot blue and will wear off much quicker.

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I used cold blue on an old Stephens .22. Careful polishing and de-greasing will give a very nice finish. But it is not as durable as hot blue and will wear off much quicker.

I'm hoping that someone knows of a cold blue that doesn't wear too quickly.

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You could try the Blue Wonder bluing process...

http://www.bluewonder.us/BlueWonderGunBlue.html

It's technically not cold blue as other products are referred to

If you follow the directions it does hold up pretty well.

You could also try could also try black oxide

http://www.caswellplating.com/metal-finishing-solutions/black-oxide-kits.html

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http://sdough.smugmug.com/Art/Just-For-Fun/i-XNgNCN7/0/M/Gun1-M.jpg

 

http://sdough.smugmug.com/Art/Just-For-Fun/i-nfRK9xr/0/M/docgun1-M.jpg

 

this gun was cold blued all over almost 30 years ago. it was an EMF "kit" gun. it has worn down to look pretty cool

 

the gun in the book is Doc Hollidays, and they look almost identical...

 

curley

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http://sdough.smugmug.com/Art/Just-For-Fun/i-XNgNCN7/0/M/Gun1-M.jpg

 

http://sdough.smugmug.com/Art/Just-For-Fun/i-nfRK9xr/0/M/docgun1-M.jpg

 

this gun was cold blued all over almost 30 years ago. it was an EMF "kit" gun. it has worn down to look pretty cool

 

the gun in the book is Doc Hollidays, and they look almost identical...

 

curley

What kind of cold blue?

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CJS-

 

I think you are going to be most satisfied with a rust blue, like:

 

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/metal-prep-coloring/metal-bluing/specialty-bluing-chemicals/classic-rust-blue-prod22820.aspx

 

It takes a little setup, you probably want to pull the barrel off the action to do it. But it produces a blue that is as tough as most hot blues and can be done in your garage or workshop.

 

I've done a pistol and a shotgun barrel set that way and been very pleased with both deep even color and good wear resistance.

 

Good luck,GJ

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CJS-

 

I think you are going to be most satisfied with a rust blue, like:

 

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/metal-prep-coloring/metal-bluing/specialty-bluing-chemicals/classic-rust-blue-prod22820.aspx

 

It takes a little setup, you probably want to pull the barrel off the action to do it. But it produces a blue that is as tough as most hot blues and can be done in your garage or workshop.

 

I've done a pistol and a shotgun barrel set that way and been very pleased with both deep even color and good wear resistance.

 

Good luck,GJ

Removing the barrel is pretty much not going to be done. The gun I'm looking to re-blue is an old, Uberti SAA. The barrel and cylinder are somewhat beat up. Not bad, but I wouldn't mind cleaning them up. I don't want to spend a lot of money on a gun I only paid $225 for.

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You don't get perfect results and easy application out of the same jar.

 

If you want easy, then Brownells OxphoBlue. Apply several coats.

 

If you want really nice results at home and you are handy, then rust blue. That can be done with barrel in frame, you will probably need to blue frame if you do it that way.

 

If none of the above, a lower end hot blue job would pay for itself on bringing gun back up in value some.

 

Best results only come from best metal preparation and polishing.

 

I look at it as - the gun was cheap, so you have more money to spend on the refinish. If the goal is a ratty gun, you got that already. If it is to be a pretty gun, hot blue with at least a factory level polish. In between - is the nuanced call, which we probably can't make for you, if you are going to be picky about it. <_<:huh::lol:

 

Good luck, GJ

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You don't get perfect results and easy application out of the same jar.

 

If you want easy, then Brownells OxphoBlue. Apply several coats.

 

If you want really nice results at home and you are handy, then rust blue. That can be done with barrel in frame, you will probably need to blue frame if you do it that way.

I'm not concerned too much with easy, I want it to last. The frame is CCH, and I want it to stay that way, but I don't want to take the barrel out of it.

If none of the above, a lower end hot blue job would pay for itself on bringing gun back up in value some.

I'm not worried about the value either, I just want it to not look like it's 45 years old. :P

Best results only come from best metal preparation and polishing.

That I can do.

I look at it as - the gun was cheap, so you have more money to spend on the refinish. If the goal is a ratty gun, you got that already. If it is to be a pretty gun, hot blue with at least a factory level polish. In between - is the nuanced call, which we probably can't make for you, if you are going to be picky about it. <_<:huh::lol:

I got the gun cheap because I'M cheap. :D Let's face it, if I'd wanted to spend the money, I could have got a brandey new Cimarron for less than twice what I paid for THIS one. :lol:

And it's not exactly ratty, it's just old. AND I AM picky. :blink:

Good luck, GJ

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You don't get perfect results and easy application out of the same jar.

 

If you want easy, then Brownells OxphoBlue. Apply several coats.

 

If you want really nice results at home and you are handy, then rust blue. That can be done with barrel in frame, you will probably need to blue frame if you do it that way.

I'm not concerned too much with easy, I want it to last. The frame is CCH, and I want it to stay that way, but I don't want to take the barrel out of it.

If none of the above, a lower end hot blue job would pay for itself on bringing gun back up in value some.

I'm not worried about the value either, I just want it to not look like it's 45 years old. :P

Best results only come from best metal preparation and polishing.

That I can do.

I look at it as - the gun was cheap, so you have more money to spend on the refinish. If the goal is a ratty gun, you got that already. If it is to be a pretty gun, hot blue with at least a factory level polish. In between - is the nuanced call, which we probably can't make for you, if you are going to be picky about it. <_<:huh::lol:

I got the gun cheap because I'M cheap. :D Let's face it, if I'd wanted to spend the money, I could have got a brandey new Cimarron for less than twice what I paid for THIS one. :lol:

And it's not exactly ratty, it's just old. AND I AM picky. :blink:

Good luck, GJ

 

Given this logic, there's no reasonable solution. Just the one in some bottle. :lol: :lol:

 

Good luck, GJ

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I like Birchwood Casey Perma Blue Paste, it's thick and clings to the surface. I have found if the parts are heated first they take the bluing better. I use a heat gun but a hair drier would also work.

Here's some good reading: http://ktgunsmith.com/coldblue.htm

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I have seen the results with the Blue Wonder, or maybe it's Super Wonder Blue. It holds up well and looks very nice.

 

As stated, it isn't exactly a Cold Blue, but only requires warming the metal a bit, not real hot. I think they recommend just warming with a propane torch, and then applying the blue. As with any bluing process, cleaning the metal is the most important thing. At any rate, the process is easy, and the results looks pretty nice.

 

RBK

 

EDIT Just looked it up. It's Blue Wonder. Comes in a kit. If just bluing 1 revolver, the 2 oz. kit would do it . Midway USA $18.95

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