El Muerto Negro Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Hello, So I have had more then one flat hand spring brake on me on my colts and colt clone. I see Long Hunter does a mod to a coil spring. What has been your experience pros and con's? Does it give the gun a different feel? Any information. EMN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack, SASS #20451 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I had it done to all 6 of my USFA's. I highly recommend doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I followed Pettifoggers instructions and have done all of my Colt clones with the coil and plunger. Not as difficult as you might think and it takes one more weak point in the 1860 engineering out of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc McCoy, SASS #8381 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I've done it to my 1860s, 1861s and conversions. Love it, no known drawbacks in 3 years and it feels smoother. I highly recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ T. Sites Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I followed Pettifoggers instructions and have done all of my Colt clones with the coil and plunger. Not as difficult as you might think and it takes one more weak point in the 1860 engineering out of play. Do you have a link to those instructions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Muerto Negro Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Do you have a link to those instructions? And who sells the coil and plunger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc McCoy, SASS #8381 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The coil and plunger I used are Ruger parts. Pawl spring & plunger, for Vaquero and similar guns. Got them from Brownell's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingers McGee Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Do you have a link to those instructions? Try here http://www.theopenrange.net/articles/Tuning_the_Pietta_Part_One.pdf http://www.theopenrange.net/articles/Tuning_the_Pietta_Part_Two.pdf With Noz' help, I have four pair of my C&Bs done. Work great. Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hello, So I have had more then one flat hand spring brake on me on my colts and colt clone. I see Long Hunter does a mod to a coil spring. What has been your experience pros and con's? Does it give the gun a different feel? Any information. EMN I wouldn't have done it to 4 COLT SAAs (3 3rd gens and a 2nd gen), an older ASM clone (Uberti clone came that way), 3 COLT 1851 2nd gens, and another ASM 1851 made in 1985 if it wasn't worth while! Since having the first one done, I haven't broken a hand spring since 1987. And regret it not one whit! That was on the ASM 1851, I then had my Colt SAA done a few weeks later, and each of the others as they came into my possession. The 1851 Colt 2nd gen guns and 2 of the Colt SAAs were brand new guns when I had 'em done. It is the ONE mod that you SHOULD do. If you do them... I recommend using a Ruger plunger and polishing the back of the stock hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Try here http://www.theopenrange.net/articles/Tuning_the_Pietta_Part_One.pdf http://www.theopenrange.net/articles/Tuning_the_Pietta_Part_Two.pdf With Noz' help, I have four pair of my C&Bs done. Work great. Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee Noz also broke a drill bit off in one of Fingers' guns and he had to take it to a machinist to get it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingers McGee Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Noz also broke a drill bit off in one of Fingers' guns and he had to take it to a machinist to get it out. Twernt no big deal. Fingers (you didn't have to fess up) McGee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Twernt no big deal. Fingers (you didn't have to fess up) McGee I never heard that story!! One more reason to drill hands rather than frames!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I've never had a flat hand spring fail. But I've cursed the rice grain size plunger and spring and minute set screw every time I've taken the hammer out. Uberti models, I'm talking about. I don't know nothing about Rugers. If I could redesign the system, I would make it so the blasted miniature parts didn't fly out when hammer and hand was pulled out of the frame. Looks like they could have made the retaining set screw about twice as large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ T. Sites Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I've never had a flat hand spring fail. But I've cursed the rice grain size plunger and spring and minute set screw every time I've taken the hammer out. Uberti models, I'm talking about. I don't know nothing about Rugers. If I could redesign the system, I would make it so the blasted miniature parts didn't fly out when hammer and hand was pulled out of the frame. Looks like they could have made the retaining set screw about twice as large. I had wear marks in my hand from where the plunger spring was too tight , so I trimmed the spring it doesn't take a lot of pressure to hold the hand in place. I only had to go looking for the plunger once after that I made sure I moved slow and paid attention . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I changed out 4 stock hammers for Runnin Iron hammers so I got real practiced at being careful to remove the plunger assemply - having to do it 5 times. (I was paying so much attention to the plunger assembly, I reinstalled an old hammer instead of a new Runnin Irons hammer.) Getting the parts out and not loosing them is the easier half of the job. Getting them picked up and reinstalled takes some steady hands and good vision. Putting the screw back in takes the skill of a jeweler. I couldn't do it. Each one I had to call Mary over and I'd hold the gun at best angle while she got the screw started. The key was to find a screwdriver that the screw would stick onto the blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasspounder Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 For me, on my uberti 1851 Navy's, it was easier for me to make new flat springs out of better stuff than the wimpy factory originals....I made 'em wider (same width as the thickness of the hand) and so far after about 9 years after I did it, no further breakeage or problems with 'em.. At least there are no "surprises" when I pull 'em apart for detailed cleaning up...no springs or plungers popping out and getting lost, etc. I just hate it when that happens.... Bp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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