Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 Made a run to the fly shop. Got some purple and some hot pink thread. Not a lot of bling but maybe the fish don't care. I guess I don't either. Got some UV stuff coming in next week so I will be tying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 everytime , I get myself convenced to go out , I hear the fire trucks and meat wagons making a run it is safer to clean off the desk , so I got somewhere to put the vice , some where , under that pile of junk , is suppose to be a desk CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 CB, got a question for you about flies. I am thinking of tying up some PURPLE, soft hackle flies, in a number 12 hook size, for summer trout. Rig them up on a full sinking 3 or 5 wt line, with a short two foot leader, and fishing them deep in lakes. What do you think of that idea? Talk to me. Tell me where I am going wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I don't do a lot of fly fishing but I won't go to the water without a handfull of 1/16 oz all soft gray maribou jigs. I sat in the middle of James River above Table Rock Lake, with a couple of hundred of my best friends, over a school of several tons of white bass with none of them biting anything, even minnows. A local boy came down to the river bank with a Zebco 202 rig and 1 gray jig. He made 15 casts, caught 15 big female whites, strung them on a piece of rope and disappeared back over the bank. Was not there for more than 30 minutes. All of us began frantically digging for something similar with no grays and no one having any success. I stayed another 3 hours without catching anything and without seeing anything caught. The bad thing is we could see them lying on the bottom under our boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 Don't you just hate it when they lay and look at you and refuse everything in the box. I went fishing in Michigan to an long forgotten lake and there were blue gills sitting on the bottom in crystal clear warter. You could watch them swim over to the bait and nudge it and then swim away. No go. Then there is a deep eddy on the Skykomish river where the returning steelhead lie just below the hatchery. They line n the pool and there is no easy way to present the fly/bait to them because of the structure in the river. When you do, they will look at it and the fin away a foot or so and let it pass. Makes a guy crazy. Well crazier. You have to be half nuts to stand out there in cold and rain to look for these devils anyway. I got the FEVER! I would do it in a heart beat. I have done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 BMC I think you will need to go with , a longer leader , at least 5 ft or better I tye a similar bug , with floss and soft hackle , also do a version with peacock herl and a palmered hackle does well on STUPID hatchery fish , of corse , if it hit what I tye , it be STUPID CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 BMC I think you will need to go with , a longer leader , at least 5 ft or better I tye a similar bug , with floss and soft hackle , also do a version with peacock herl and a palmered hackle does well on STUPID hatchery fish , of corse , if it hit what I tye , it be STUPID CB Maybe five feet of leader but no more. Fishing deep I want to feel the take. Long leader might hamper that. Bug I am thinking of, is all purple silk thread, with a small clump of peacock hurl for a thorax, and then soft hackle partridge or maybe even dyed purple guinea hackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 BMC thinking , I need more info , to start , define DEEP ? here we have rather small rivers and streams , some have good depth to em , in places anything below 8 ft or so , I change to a spinning rod , NO need to wo%& that hard , if I am suppose to be having fun but , the regs . here, are not as crazy , as what , I have read of the regs up there of corse , we can use LIVE bait , without killing it too CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 I fish mostly western lakes that run anywhere from ten foot to fifty foot. Most of my fly fishing is off the shallow shelf at around 8 to 12 feet of clear water. I suppose I could lengthen the leader but I would like to try the 5 foot max. first. I will also be trying these around weed beds, just outside of the growth. If I get real crazy I could use my 2/3 weight fly rod. I up lined it to a three weight line for pan fish. Other wise, I will use my 5 weight. It needs some work anyway and has been sitting in the bag for way too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Badger I think , I would be using a spinning rod , with a slip cork , if it were legal I do NOT like a sink tip , I like a full sinking line even less , I use a WF floating line , almost all the time , I attempt to match the tool , to the job at hand , CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 I don't care much for sinking lines, but what ever works. Spinning rod is a choice but if I am flicking flies, I like a fly rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Badger in the case posted , I think it would be more productive to go with a spinning rod BUT , a sink tip with a 5 ft leader , would do better than a full sinking line I would be tempted to use a floating line , with a small split shot down near the fly using the braided connector as a strike indicator , thus needing a long leader CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Oh well, I have a couple of months to figure it out and tie some flies. I am thinking that the new year will be the year of the soft hackle. Purple, red, black, and orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Badger ya be making , me THINK , of HOW to go at this , trying to figure out , without being there , makes it TOUGH have a bream lake close , that has lots of weeds , in it , might be some place to fool around with some of these ideas CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Soft hackles are deadly, but I don't know about spiny rays. Guess a feller could find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Badger that is what , we have down here , some trout , not near as many as y'all got up there and , we do NOT have any closed seasons if you are tough enough to be out , it is legal to get em CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 We got screwed when the giverment got involved in the salmon harvest and then the tribes and then and then and then. What once was one of the country's better fisheries is turning into a big zilch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 BMC due to nets , in the rivers , (illagal) , over harvest , our fishing , is also going down hill water Quality , is on the decline , pretty much the same story everywhere don't ya love . PROGRESS CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Pond fish I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Don't know , where to get away from some of them folks spoke with one of the farmers , close by , had someone cut his fences , and net the ponds getting real strange , fear it is going to get worse , before it gets any better CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Fish in the bathtub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 BMC the way some "folks" are treating the resorce , it may get to be as productive did ya find a spot , by the river ? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Naa, took the car in for service. Momma has me pinned down today. Maybe tomrrow or wednesday. Weather changed and turned cold and clear. Rivers should be dropping soon and then I can fish my egg patterns in the drift. Talking snow tonight at 300 foot level. I am just shy of 500 feet. But I have fished in the snow before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 BMC l@@king at another post , seems you are taking your rock to the river have FUN CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 YEE HAWWW! We have a skim of ice across most ponds and 11 degrees here tonight!!!! Fishing soon! I need to get some fresh 2lb. test spooled and check my tip-ups. Early ice is best ice! 3 more inches and I'm set. Just not with any of my "larger" friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Well, I took the rock to the river but didn't use it. River was way dark and still high. I wanted to use my newly tied egg clusters to try them in low clear water. Not to be. So I just looked and watched. If it stays this cold and dry the river should drop tomorrow. HAH! I said that today and it didn't happen. Hope springs eternal. Just being near the river with a rod in hand was tonic for me. Just don't fall in, Slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I'll just heed that advise Badger. I certainly will. Miss the creeks and rivers up north. I know well the tonic of which you speak. Being on a sweet running piece of water is something you can feel. Here they run warm mud if its raining and warm green mud when it's not. But the lakes are nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 I am glad to hear you say that, Slim. I thought there might be something wrong with my thought maker. I just get all excited inside, watching the water play over the rocks, trees and branches, and listening to it's song. Today was special because the mountains got a dusting of snow last night and were all white in the background. I feel like I have been rejuvenated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 BMC as soon as I get over this bug , what blindsided me I hope to get out , and find some walleyes , this time of year , it will be spoons if a big school of whites , can be found , ya can get all ya need in short order have to redo the bait nets , before spring , CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 Bait nets? What is that? You put power bait in nets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 BMC small nesh nets to catch shad , ya hook em in the tail , and drop em under the lights sit and drink coffee , until the fish find em LAZY mans fishing CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 The snow on the mountains is beautimus. Got a dusting last night and everything up there is white. That is water for the summer runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 BMC ya gotta enjoy , the little things CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 HAHAHAHA That is all I get to enjoy, the little things. But that is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 HAHAHAHA That is all I get to enjoy, the little things. But that is ok. Wife said thet once....................... She laughed too.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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