Kid Rich Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I cleaned some 45 colt, 45-70 and some 45 acp brass in my thumbler B today with lemishine dawndish soap and a gallon of water. Tumbled for 3 hrs tokk it out and dried it in the oven for an hour. As I was sorting it out I found 3 45 acps had primers that had not been struck. My question is would they fire if put in a 1911 and pull they trigger? kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I sure wouldn't put them in a self defense round!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Scatterbrain Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Maybe, maybe not, especially if they aren't fully dried yet. I would just decap them like normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Dump the primers-they're 'dead'. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 What Lumpy sed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Dump the primers-they're 'dead'. LG Not necessarily. Primers are a lot harder to kill than most think. A manufacturer of ammunition had a request for cases loaded with a primer and bullet with no powder for display purposes. He soaked the primers in penetrating oil. 6 months later they all would fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Not necessarily. Primers are a lot harder to kill than most think. A manufacturer of ammunition had a request for cases loaded with a primer and bullet with no powder for display purposes. He soaked the primers in penetrating oil. 6 months later they all would fire. NOT worth the chance--We're talk'n about 5cents worth of primers..... I would NOT trust'em---- LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Maybe some times BUT NOT always CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I would let them dry and then fire them unloaded and singly in my 1911. Then they could be deprimed and reloaded. Having a primer go off in the loading press would be 'exciting', but this process would set them off in a gun if they were still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 I would have bet that they would not have gone off. All three DID when I put them in my 1911. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I would let them dry and then fire them unloaded and singly in my 1911. Then they could be deprimed and reloaded. Having a primer go off in the loading press would be 'exciting', but this process would set them off in a gun if they were still alive. I have been reloading for over 50 years and have never had a live primer detonate when I removed it. I done it many times and have never had a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Scatterbrain Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I have been reloading for over 50 years and have never had a live primer detonate when I removed it. I done it many times and have never had a problem.I am in the process of recycling primers from some unused 5.56 brass to feed into my Rossi 357, no problems so far. Couple hundred down, about eight hundred to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I have been reloading for over 50 years and have never had a live primer detonate when I removed it. I done it many times and have never had a problem. It is a real surprise when you do, Big Sage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I am in the process of recycling primers from some unused 5.56 brass to feed into my Rossi 357, no problems so far. Couple hundred down, about eight hundred to go. You are going to reuse small rifle primers in small pistol brass? This strikes me as a problem. Shooting .357 in a rifle does not make it a rifle cartridge. High primers are almost a certainty and military primers are often harder than commercial primers. I see problems in your future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Scatterbrain Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 You are going to reuse small rifle primers in small pistol brass? This strikes me as a problem. Shooting .357 in a rifle does not make it a rifle cartridge. High primers are almost a certainty and military primers are often harder than commercial primers. I see problems in your future.No problems so far, though I've only fired a couple dozen. Not military primers, just Winchester small rifle, and the first thing I did was fire a dozen primered brass. A small sample, but good enough for plinking and woodchuck killing. No high primers so far, but the one thing that made me a little nervous was the ease of seating. It had been quite awhile since I had seated any small primers, but they seemed to go into once-fired brass awfully easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Small rifle primers stick up .007" more than small pistol primers. It may work; it may not; it may be dangerous. Proceed with caution.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugs Bonney SASS # 10171 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Small rifle primers stick up .007" more than small pistol primers. It may work; it may not; it may be dangerous. Proceed with caution.... Wonder why they did that? if they were all the same you could do with two less SKU's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Scatterbrain Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 There are other differences, but I don't want to expose myself as an ignoramus by trying to explain them. They are not just interchangeable in a willy-nilly sort of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Small rifle primers are the same height as small pistol primers, however they are harder. Large rifle primers are higher than large pistol primers. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twelve mile REB Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I used some hundreds of thousands small rifle primers in 38 supers loaded to make major. No problem. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 my experiences have been with Large Rifle and Large pistol mostly-just wanted to make sure all necessary considerations had been made. Rifles operate at much higher pressures than even magnum handgun loads. Primer flow into the firing pin hole happens at excessive pressures, but with pistol primers, you run a much higher risk of a punctured primer. Also the charge is stronger for rifle and would likely be enough to affect accuracy on target pistol loads For shooting pistol calibers out of a rifle in a noncompetition arena, I would probably do it myself-but I wouldn't recommend it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKFOOT SASS #11947 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Back to the OP. I picked up some stray primers that had been hiding on the floor for a while and put them in water for a week. After that I let them dry then loaded them. They all fired normally. Blackfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I would have bet that they would not have gone off. All three DID when I put them in my 1911. kR Yup! I had 4500 large rifle primers given to me. All fired nicely thru a pair of Black Hawks with no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Small rifle primers stick up .007" more than small pistol primers. It may work; it may not; it may be dangerous. Proceed with caution.... Wrong-they are the exact same size. The diff is in lg rile and lg pistol. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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