MoonshineDawg Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Is one of the Rossi R-92 lever actions legal for SASS events? Thanks Quote
Grizzly Dave Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Howdy and welcome! Not sure of the model number, but yes a 92 is legal in many categories, but not all. I would suggest going out to a local match and if possible trying out several of the options to see what you like the best. Most folks are happy to let new folks try out their irons to help them decide what to get for themselves. EDIT - after looking it up, that appears to be the ranch hand model with the cut pistol style stock, and I don't know that it is legal, but don't remember for sure. Edited September 15, 2014 by Grizzly Dave Quote
Yul Lose Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Welcome to the game Moonshine Dawg. Yer in for a lot of fun and you'll meet a bunch of really fine folks. To answer your question, I would say yes, however it may not be the best choice in my opinion of course. I would highly recommend that you go to a few matches and talk to the shooters and they'll more than likely let you try out their match guns to give you an idea what's out there. I started with a Rossi 92 and learned in a very short time that if I wanted to be competitive it probably wouldn't happen with that particular rifle. I wish I hadn't bought a few guns that I did just starting out because they didn't work out and I could have spent the money on better guns for the game. There is a wealth of knowledge at these matches and I think you'll find that everyone there is more than willing to share information with the "new guy". Again welcome to our game, I wish that I had discovered it about 20 years before I did, it's become a way of life to a certain degree. Quote
MoonshineDawg Posted September 15, 2014 Author Posted September 15, 2014 Thank you gentlemen. I think I'll take your advice and attend a club shoot somewhere in the area Quote
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Is one of the Rossi R-92 lever actions legal for SASS events? Thanks If this is what you are referring to, it is legal for most SASS categories. However, you don't want it for two reasons. First it only has a eight round magazine capacity. (The +1 means one in the chamber. SASS rifles are staged with an empty chamber.) You really need ten rounds for SASS. Loading two rounds on the clock is not something you want to do. Second it has the large loop lever. They look neat but slow you down when trying to shoot fast. Rossis are fine, just get one with a little longer barrel and standard lever. http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=181 Quote
MoonshineDawg Posted September 15, 2014 Author Posted September 15, 2014 Thank you Larsen. This helps me tremendously. Would you recommend the Marlin lever action rifles? Thanks! Quote
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Welcome to the Fun! Quote
Noz Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Thank you gentlemen. I think I'll take your advice and attend a club shoot somewhere in the area Welcome Dawg and if you fill out your profile letting us know where you are you'll get a lot more information. Quote
Pit Bull Tex Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Welcome the the best game around and the best people.Go to lots of shoots.Fondle lots of guns.Buy what feel good to you.The 92 with a 20" barrel will work for you.That is the least expensive rifle to get into shooting.I started with a 92 and love it still.I do shoot a 73 in most matches.You have to feel all of them.The marlin in the right hands is very fast. The 73 and the 66 with action work and short strokes are really fast in the right hands.Go to matches and look and feel and ask anything you want to know.People will help you.Most of all Have fun. Quote
Lucky Vaquero Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Hey! You're even newer than me and I'm really, really new too. Welcome. Quote
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Welcome to you too, Lucky Vaquero! Quote
Sedalia Dave Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Thank you Larsen. This helps me tremendously. Would you recommend the Marlin lever action rifles? Thanks! Any lever action rifle in the approved calibers is legal as long as it has a tubular magazine. Refer to the shooter handbook pg 9. If you are thinking about shooting B-Western or Classic cowboy/cowgirl they have additional requirements for both model and/or caliber. Also download the ROI I and ROI II handbooks. and read them. They will help clarify some areas of the SHB. Before you buy anything, Go to a match and talk to your fellow shooters. and see what they are using and recommend. BTW I shoot a 92 and do well with it. The trick is to properly slick it up for CAS and find an OAL on your ammo that it likes. Quote
Three Foot Johnson Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Properly worked over, a '92 isn't a bad rifle at all for this game. I shot a slicked up Rossi '92 .44 mag RB carbine at a match day afore yestiddy, with a pair of Armi-Jager .38-40's (Double Duelist) and a Rossi Overland 20g, and they say I placed 3rd overall out of 25... personally, I think somebody made a mistake. I shot a good match, but I didn't think it was THAT good. Quote
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Is one of the Rossi R-92 lever actions legal for SASS events? Thanks What caliber? Quote
Charlie Whiskers Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Properly worked over, a '92 isn't a bad rifle at all for this game. I shot a slicked up Rossi '92 .44 mag RB carbine at a match day afore yestiddy, with a pair of Armi-Jager .38-40's (Double Duelist) and a Rossi Overland 20g, and they say I placed 3rd overall out of 25... personally, I think somebody made a mistake. I shot a good match, but I didn't think it was THAT good. Ok....who'd you bribe to shave seconds for ya? Quote
Three Foot Johnson Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 I dunno, but I find it hard to believe I did that well. Maybe everybody else just had a bad day all at the same time. Quote
MoonshineDawg Posted September 16, 2014 Author Posted September 16, 2014 I'm thinking I want .357/38 pistols and a lever action in the same caliber. Thanks to everyone for being so helpful and nice. I sure appreciate y'all Quote
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 I'm thinking I want .357/38 pistols and a lever action in the same caliber. Thanks to everyone for being so helpful and nice. I sure appreciate y'all Hi MoonshineDawg, That is an excellent choice economically. Ditto for a 12 gauge shotgun. Now, to narrow it down to particular guns, which is a little harder. When I started, I just shot what Hubby gave me and they have been fine. I finally had to "put down" my beloved '97. I used it for 14 years and Hubby used it before that. Happy shopping and shooting! Allie Mo Quote
Jackrabbit Joe #414 Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Howdy MoonshineDawg: I have a Rossi Puma 92 16" inch which I purchased back years ago, cut the spring some, replaced the big loop lever and it does hold ten rounds in magazine .38 special with OAL 1.50, I have used it along with my daughter, son-in-law, sons and wife. Still in top notch shape and has been slicked up some. My Marlins & 73's are faster though then the 92. Not for sale but just passing info onto you. All of the posts above by other cowboys are true words. Check out some shoots and do try other guns. Marlins, 73's and so on plus different pistols & shotguns. Lots of moola involved so pick the right ones and converse with all the guys & girls as the girls are pretty smart cookies also. Edited September 16, 2014 by Jackrabbit Joe #414 Quote
MoonshineDawg Posted September 16, 2014 Author Posted September 16, 2014 Thanks Allie Mo and Jackrabbit and hello to you Lucky Vaquero! I think this is gonna be a blast! Quote
Tom Bullweed Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Welcome to the fire Moonshine. I am located about thirty minutes up I-85 from you. Come see about 40-50 of the nicest shooters that you ever met at the Rowan County gunclub in Salisbury on the first Saturday of October. Bring your eye and ear protection. You will get to see a range of equipment clothes and shooting categories. The Rossi 1892 with a 20" barrel (and full-length mag) is a rifle that many of us started with, myself included. It can be made to run pretty well and is what I call a six-second gun (10 shots in six seconds for many shooters). Other actions can run a bit faster and will not tend to hang up as easily as an 1892 will with a short or long cartridge. The Winchester 1866 and 1873 made by Uberti to the most popular choice at the range. These rifles cost a bit more to start with, but they are simpler and more reliable than most 1892s. .38/.357 is a good chambering choice. .45 Colt is also popular. Do you already reload? If not, are you going to consider reloading in the future? If not, your choice needs to be based on the consistent availability of cowboy ammo. Georgia Arms is a high-quality source of cowboy ammo, and their prices are relatively low. Do not spend your dollars until you get to a match. If you cannot come see us in Salisbury, then there visit the monthly state match page in this website. Quote
MoonshineDawg Posted September 18, 2014 Author Posted September 18, 2014 Thank you Tom Bullweed! I'll do my best to be there the first Saturday in October, however I just got a contract for the sale of a home I own in VA so I'm not sure of my schedule. Thank you so much for the info and keep sending it my way, I need all the help I can get! I hope to reload in the future but as of the moment I don't. I think I'm going for the Ruger Vaqueros in .357/38 caliber, but I'm open on the manufacturer, so if any one in the club has any model in that caliber they're wanting to sell let me know. I look forward to meeting you and the club members soon! Moonshine Dawg Quote
Charlie Whiskers Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Don't buy any guns until you've been to a couple of shoots and tried anything and everything the shooters will be stuffing in your hands. You can't go wrong with Rugers. They're built like tanks and will last for as long as you plan on shooting. Having said that, I don't like the feel of them in my hands. I had Rugers and sold them. Went with Uberti's and Pietta's. They just feel right to me compared to the Rugers. Same with rifles and shotguns. Try them all then buy what you like best. Welcome to CAS and you're getting into a game with some of the finest people you'll ever know. And 38/357 is a good choice. Cheaper to reload once you get started doing that. Edited September 18, 2014 by Charlie Whiskers Quote
Sedalia Dave Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Definately try all the guns you can before buying. Each model/make is slightly different and you need to get what fits your hands. There are different sizes of frames from the really small Uberti Stallions to the much larger framed colt clones and everything inbetween. Some peole like the look and feel of the open tops, But here again there is a difference in the grips between the Army and Navy versions. Some like birds head grips, some Bisleys, and some plow share. Try them all and buy what feels good in your hands. For the most part it is a lot less expensive to buy the correct firearms that fit you needs the first time than it is to keep selling and changing. Edited September 18, 2014 by Sedalia Dave Quote
MoonshineDawg Posted September 19, 2014 Author Posted September 19, 2014 Good information Dave. Thank you and thank you for your service. Moonshine Dawg Quote
MoonshineDawg Posted September 19, 2014 Author Posted September 19, 2014 Thank you Charlie! Great advice and I need all I can get! I'm just an old country boy from VA. Been shooting since I was a kid. First real gun was an old Sears 20 gauge single shot and It was given to me by my father and was told to go get a mess of squirrels at 12 years old. I was fortunate to live in a very rural area where we could target practice off the front porch. I have accrued a small arsenal of guns but I've never had the desire to compete until now. I think this will be fun! Thank you! Quote
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