Key Hay Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I want to start loading 45-70 for long range but have run out of space on my loading bench for a single stage press. Will a 550 do 45-70 (except for powder, I'll weigh that out separately)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Dot, 14911 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Hay Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 I found a Dillon 550 conversion kit but not Dillon 45-70 dies. Any recommendations for 45-70 dies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Yes, and I load .45-90 also on mine w/BP 2 step process-Size-prime- flare case mouth. off press charge cases w/BP. Then compress powder-seat bullet and remove mouth flare. What brand case are you using? LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Lyman-- LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Just did 100 on my 550 last night. Used 777. Started out singly then went into progressive mode. Lube your cases! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 definite Just did 100 on my 550 last night. Used 777. Started out singly then went into progressive mode. Lube your cases! A deffinate must Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Hay Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Yes, and I load .45-90 also on mine w/BP 2 step process-Size-prime- flare case mouth. off press charge cases w/BP. Then compress powder-seat bullet and remove mouth flare. What brand case are you using? LG I got Starline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 You should anneal the case mouths before loading. As per Starline-- LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Hay Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 You should anneal the case mouths before loading. As per Starline-- LG May only need to anneal for BP (and substitutes)? Starline: Be aware this is not always necessary. Only if cases are extremely dirty and a lot of unburned powder is consistently found in chamber would you need to anneal. When loading with black powder, annealing of mouth may be necessary to allow case to properly seal chamber due to lower pressures generated by these loads. Our case is produced very strong to withstand high pressure loads associated with smokeless hunting loads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I would anneal, as the case-mouth will work harden. I only load real BP in both of my Sharps rifles. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTH-PACIFIC,SASS #59402 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 call dillon they supply rcbs dies. i set my sizer to size about 3/4 length. decap pin set all way down. size decap and prime stage 1. have stage 2 set to barelly spread the case edge to except the bullett ( i size to 459 bore is 458). remove .load trail boss using a dead weight scale (rcbs 10 10). then seat with 3rd stage and crimp on 4th . do one at a time and verry happy with out come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 There is no need to crimp a single shot rifle case. Respectfully, LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Brazos Kid Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 There is no need to crimp a single shot rifle case. Respectfully, LG Correction, There is no need for a heavy roll crimp. Granted. A good snug taper crimp sure makes for better and more complete powder burns, and therefore better consistency. As for dies and press, It's darn hard to beat Hornady dies, and a quality turret press, such as the Lyman T-Mag. Since you are going to drop powder off the press anyway, it kind of defeats the purpose of a Progressive press in the first place. Bolt your press on a piece of 2X6 and clamp it to your bench with a C clamp. Easy to remove when not in use. RBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 What "correction" -------- I stand by what I said My .45-70 & .45-90 loads show 6-8 fps(E.S.)deviation for 10 shots. I do use .002 neck tension for my 30:1 alloy Paul Jones, Creedmoor bullet. All a tapper crimp does is to squeeze the bullet OD down on a soft lead bullet. Try this-Crimp like you do. Pull the bullet and measure the OD. How much smaller is it now, than when you loaded it? LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Hay Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 Correction, There is no need for a heavy roll crimp. Granted. A good snug taper crimp sure makes for better and more complete powder burns, and therefore better consistency. As for dies and press, It's darn hard to beat Hornady dies, and a quality turret press, such as the Lyman T-Mag. Since you are going to drop powder off the press anyway, it kind of defeats the purpose of a Progressive press in the first place. Bolt your press on a piece of 2X6 and clamp it to your bench with a C clamp. Easy to remove when not in use. RBK Was asking about Dillons since that's what I have. Got no room for another press. Looks like it will be RCBS, Lyman or Hornady for dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Go with Lyman-trust me on this. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 What Lumpy says!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Box Willy Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 There's a couple of reasons to anneal your cases but I think the most important reason is to achieve a consistant neck tension. I anneal my W-W cases and neck size my fire formed cases to about .001 under the bullet size. No bell just a champher, once the BP is compressed and a veggie wad inserted, I seat my bullet with my thumb which results in a length right at max COL for my chamber. I do this on a single stage Lee with Lee and Redding dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I found a Dillon 550 conversion kit but not Dillon 45-70 dies. Any recommendations for 45-70 dies? No reason why you can't use Lee 45-70 dies on the 550 press. I use Lee dies for 380 ACP and 45 ACP on the Dillon Charging powder separately, you can use the Dillon expander/belling plug with no powder in the powder tube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I load 45-70 on my 550 all the time using smokeless powder, Accurate 5744, other then making sure the cases are lubed enough, it isn't much different then loading a straight wall pistol cartridge. For smokeless, the Dillon powder measure works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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