Mad Dog Jack, SASS #77862 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 IF a shooter is catching the lever on some part of the prop as it is being discarded in such a manner that the action ends up CLOSING, perhaps the shooter should be a bit more aware of how the long gun is going down. REF: Range Operations Summary - #5 (quoted in the OP) Exactly! I have seen many times where the shooter dropped the long gun to the table and had to return to open it In 9 years. Think it has happened to me 3 times. So not all that big a problem. I did not really care if the rule got changed in the first place. Would it have been nice. Yes. My problem is the WB putting it on the agenda for us to vote. It gets voted in. Put into place. Then taken away. There lays my problem with the whole thing. Why did we vote on it if they was never going to let it happen. For me it's been 7 years and I can't remember once. Like Al it bothers me how it took place. Probably not as much as it bothers him, but it bothers me. And I will cope...mine is not to wonder why, mine is to do or die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I'm kinda new here, but what's happening the first weekend of january in texas? The convention http://sassnet.com/Convention/ One of the places where the TGs vote on rule changes, and other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Drover Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Ya know, kind of like, uh, like I think the only real issue on this whole thing is a SXS being staged vertical for the SXS shooters, cuz, a 97 shooter doesn't care about staging a SXS vertical. Yep, that sentence structure was poor, redundent, and confusing.........remind any of you of the last few days? However, it is crystal clear NOW! Make sure your long is open and clear, or you are gonna get dinged!!! KCD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fillmore Coffins, SASS #7884 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 It seems that folks are making this harder than it needs to be. If a long gun, shotgun or rifle, closes in the process of restaging it after the shooting string it does not need to be reopened before finishing the stage. Here's your first MSV. After the last round of the stage is fired the closed long gun is inspected by the shooter and TO. If empty it is a no call, if it is not empty then a safety violation is awarded. Don't forget your first MSV You couldn't be more wrong. Fillmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I'm kinda new here, but what's happening the first weekend of january in texas? Hi Gambler, The SASS Convention and Territorial Governor Summit will be held at the historic Hotel Menger. I love attending the Conventions, seeing friends from all over the world, attending seminars and parties. There are many wonderful vendors too. This year, I hope to visit the Alamo, which is across the street from the hotel. Regards, Allie Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kajun Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Curly plenty of shooters with highly modified long guns go for long periods without accidentally closing one. Both my '73. and my SKB are 'race' guns, and I can't remember the last time I had an issue with one closing. From my perspective the real issue (as others have pointed out) isn't the final rule, it's how it was done. The nature of SASS and the positions of TG's clubs and members has been clarified. Clarity is a good thing, whether you like what you see or not. My long guns are the same as Capt. Bill Burt's...however I had my 73 close on me when I "discarded it open and empty" at the monthly match just last Saturday....and Capt. Bill Burt was the TO....and he brought it to my attention before I managed to shoot my shotgun and I opened the rifle lever and then finished the stage shooting my shotgun. Capt. Bill Burt, (on that day ) was a conscientious TO...did his job....saved my bacon and me from getting a MSV. How did the rifle lever close...I don't know....but it was empty. As best I can recall it's been about 2 years since this last happened to me. Don't say it won't EVER happen to you. I try and be careful about making sure the action on my long guns is open....sometimes it just happens. Great timing huh. Kajun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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