Boulder Canyon Bob# 32052L Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Is the new Winchester a chemical case hardening or the real deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fillmore Coffins, SASS #7884 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 http://www.navyarms.com/1873_rifles.html Fillmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUTHER JUSTICE REGULATOR #5600 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Winchester makes a case-hardened frame. They look real to me as far as process. But in today's world sometimes you just can't tell...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Most Wanted Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 http://www.navyarms.com/1873_rifles.html Fillmore That is a horse of a different color and I want one. But at that price it may be just a dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Is the new Winchester a chemical case hardening or the real deal? Define "real deal". ' If by "chemical case hardening" you are referring to the way Ruger colored the frames on the Vaqueros, no they don't do it that way. The Winchester CCH frames that I have seen look EXACTLY like Uberti's CCH '73's, so I would expect they are done the same way. This is "real" case hardening done by dipping the frames into a hot salts bath to heat them up and then immersing in a water bath which cools and causes the colors. As I said, this is "real" case hardening, but it is not the old-timey method of heating in bone meal charcoal (like Turnbull uses) which hardens more (not that modern steels need that) and is more colorful and costs a lot more as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe LaFives #5481 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 It specific's Turnbull Case Hardening. His work has always been the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boulder Canyon Bob# 32052L Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 http://www.navyarms.com/1873_rifles.html Fillmore I'm confused about the Navy Arms and their connection to Winchester. My question is about the new Miroku 73"s. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boulder Canyon Bob# 32052L Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 Define "real deal". ' If by "chemical case hardening" you are referring to the way Ruger colored the frames on the Vaqueros, no they don't do it that way. The Winchester CCH frames that I have seen look EXACTLY like Uberti's CCH '73's, so I would expect they are done the same way. This is "real" case hardening done by dipping the frames into a hot salts bath to heat them up and then immersing in a water bath which cools and causes the colors. As I said, this is "real" case hardening, but it is not the old-timey method of heating in bone meal charcoal (like Turnbull uses) which hardens more (not that modern steels need that) and is more colorful and costs a lot more as well. Yeah, I meant unlike the Rugers, I had a couple of those and they were a real let down. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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