Zekest Crowe Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Any experience with Polymer Coated Bullets? Not the Moly coated bullets that were all the rage a few years back, but "soft" lead cast bullets that have been coated with a polymer instead of standard bullet lubricants. I was told they were SASS legal as they are NOT copper washed, and the polymer does NOT contain any metal, and the polymer provides much less splatter than traditional lead cast bullets. Thanks y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captqueeze Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 what color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 what color? Confederate gray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Go over the Cast Boolits forurm ... folks there have several threads going on the subject ... even including the Harbor Freight has had a run on a specific polymer paint and is now not available online http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?171403-Powder-Coating-Boolits&highlight=polymer http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?204174-simple-Hi-Tek-coating&highlight=polymer http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?87768-lead-bullets-coated-with-polymer-paint&highlight=polymer http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?209151-Powder-Coating-101-Electrostatic-Method&highlight=polymer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captqueeze Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 That's what I'm talking about John Boy. Works fantastic with a minimal investment. If you can swish some cast bullets around in a teaspoon of Harbor Freight or other brand of polymer coating in a cottage cheese tub, you might be able to coat your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawboss, SASS #28759 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I've never heard of this, its sounds very interesting. It sounds too good to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Confederate gray! If you followed the last post on these this if the funniest reply yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I've been working on powder coating (pc) now for several months, I'm on cast boolits form, too. In a nutshell you spray a bunch of bullets sitting on a try with powder out of an Electro Static gun (Harbor Freight has them for about $50) Then bake the boots at 400* in a toaster oven or something similar. HF has matt black, red, yellow and white powders for about $4 per lb right now. Reg price is $7. You can pc plenty of bullets with a lb. Some folks, me included, have had luck just putting the bullets in a cool whip plastic container and swirling them around then baking. You don't have to lube them and they are cleaner than regular uncoated lead bullets with lube. The coating does add a bit to the diameter so I size mine with a Lee push through sizer per SASS rules they are legal. I've done them in all the colors but white but will be sticking to black and gray, which can be purchased at Powder by the Pound and other on line places for SASS shoots. Not sure how many 1880 cowboys had red bullets. Right now just experimenting and joying something new. After a season I'll reevaluate cr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palo Verde, SASS # 56522 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I have been trying the ones sold by SNS. -- gold in color So far, I think I like them. Very slight change in velocity. Also, they will run through a bullet feeder better than wax lubed bullets. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I have been shooting the Herters brand sold exclusively by Cabela's 45 ACP rounds in my 1911s in local Wild Bunch Action Shooting matches. They are made for Cabelas by CCI/Blazer. They work great. So I asked over on the SASS WB Wahr and was told in no uncertain terms that they were not legal for SASS sanctioned Oh-ficial matches. Never mind that the terminal effect is identical to all lead projectiles. Never mind they work well nay great and cause no more target damage maybe less. Never mind they are a great idea and a great round. Never mind the non reloadable aluminum cases do not HAVE to be shagged before proceeding to the next shooter. Never mind they make so much sense and are cheaper than brass case rounds. Just NO NO NO. Phooey. So I will continue to use them in local matches where common sense prevails and save the brass rounds for big sanctioned matches. So there ye go -- the SASS ptb outlaw all plastic coated projectiles just as they do frangibles (but that is another thread). I do not know the official edict on powder coated bullets. Are you pards claiming that they are SASS legal sure about that? I'm not. I know the molys are and always have been, just don't know about the powder coateds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 RTM SHB p.12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 FWIW - In case you hadn't noticed, WBAS rules are often different from SASS CAS rules...I would suggest you direct WBAS-related comments to that forum...their rules don't apply to "SASS-sanctioned" matches that are NOT WBAS-regulated (i.e. NON "Wild Bunch" matches/sidematches). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Ron Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Howdy, So can I get red white and blue boolits???? TOOO much fun. Best CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Longshot, SASS #44254 Life Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I guess I'm convinced that it's easy to powder coat the bullets. I'm curious as to what the real benefits are of powder coating bullets, and if the benefits outweigh the extra effort expended. In other words, if you've done this, convince me it's worth it!! Laz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I would not use this shake & bake lube for black powder. The current discussion is smokeless reloads only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 for me it boils down to a couple of basic things: 1. cleaner barrels 2. don't have to lube them (do have to do the pc but it's less messy 3. fun--right now it's a hoot to see them in colors. Always like to try new stuff. just saying..... cr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 links to some pictures of pc bullets: http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/shutupandjump/PowderCoating/march4005_zps5a70e4eb.jpg http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=98994&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1394313766 http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg31/Ricky1965/powder%20coating/P3020022_zps67b089f7.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack, SASS #20451 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Lone Dog and others the "polymer coated"and powder coated bullets are LEGAL in WBAS. They are treated the same as "moly coated". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Cheyenne - sure do have to admit - Their Pretty! I usually skip over the powder coat Cast Boolits threads but ... just maybe have to give it a try Question: Using the powder coated bullets - is there any lube starvation or leading and what does the foul look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 No leading or other problems that I have seen. Shot a match's worth thru my Ruger Vaquero and 2 quick passes with a patch was all it took to have the barrel clean--probably could have used just one but wanted to make sure with the second one. FWIW: I understand the USPSA crowd has been using them for awhile and they like them Right now I'm still developing the 'mass production' part of the coating process. Since it's all new to me I'm having fun 'messing' with it. Finding I'm running out of cast bullets to use--keep having to go back to the lead pot and molds to have enough to pc cr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
three by eight Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 This may help also for around 8 weeks been shooting powder coat bullets out of a 44/40 works great but I move up to hot coat powder works better than Harbor Freight .with the better coating use a dry tumbler with around 100 bullets lee dipper 3.5 two times then in the oven. Machine grey works the best good luck https://www.facebook.com/groups/492980787487418/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I stand corrected and huzzah ! Any commercial bullet casters selling powder coated or plastic coated bullets for reloading purposes by those of us who are too lazy to go thru the powder coating process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Dot, 14911 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 A&is bullets has them. Available from them or Dillon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Dot, 14911 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 S&S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rance - SASS # 54090 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I was in my local cowboy stuff supplier yesterday.. He sells SNS lead.. I noticed all the 125 grain TC were these polymer coated gold.. I hesitated and didn't buy any.. Just thinkin' in my ol' ways I reckon.. So... They don't have the blue wax ring seal I'm use ta seein' in the groove? And they are fine to reload and shoot? What seals them? Rance Thinkin' I reckon I'm gonna' have ta change my ol' ways.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Murphy # 873 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'm guessing because them boolets ain'y copper washed or coated yer guna suffer from polymer fouling in yer bore. Carlos Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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