Subdeacon Joe Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Rural Oakdale family knew the drill when it came to defending against intruder At some point in life, we all prep for an emergency. Fire drills. Nuclear fallout drills. Earthquake drills. Folks in other parts of the country drill to be ready when a tornado rolls through. Bart and Melissa Ardis added another drill to the mix with their blended family of four children. Living in a rural area south of Oakdale, they know it can take sheriff’s deputies quite a while to arrive if an intruder picks their home for a break-in after they call 911. So they created a plan that includes keeping registered handguns within reach at night. They’ve taught the children to hide in a safe room should trouble arise. If this seems like overkill or paranoia to folks who detest gun ownership of any kind, consider what happened at 4 a.m. Wednesday. Three of the children were off staying with their mother. Carson, Melissa’s son and Bart’s stepson, had been feeling poorly and slept in their room. The home’s alarm system was disabled, courtesy of the critter that got beneath the home and chewed through a wire (it has since been repaired). Suddenly, they all heard a noise – loud enough to bring all fully awake. Bart and Melissa looked at each other to make sure one wasn’t up and about. Then they grabbed their handguns. When they looked up, they saw the shadow of a man in their home. What follows is the Ardises’ account of events: Read more here: http://www.modbee.com/2013/11/16/3035629/rural-oakdale-family-knew-the.html#storylink=cpy Read more here: http://www.modbee.com/2013/11/16/3035629/rural-oakdale-family-knew-the.html#storylink=cpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Fine job. Liberals would call them paranoid gun nuts. I'd be glad to call em neighbors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Sounds like they need more practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 They did fine. They're just prepared folks, not gunfighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Oakdale? Modesto? That's California, right? "Registered handguns"? Gotta register your pistols in California? Ain't it illegal, in California, to have guns not locked up? Not trying to start any "California bashing". These are serious questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Fine job. Liberals would call them paranoid gun nuts. I'd be glad to call em neighbors. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Oakdale? Modesto? That's California, right? "Registered handguns"? Gotta register your pistols in California? Ain't it illegal, in California, to have guns not locked up? Not trying to start any "California bashing". These are serious questions. I believe the law is that they need to be locked up "when not in use." Home defense firearms are obviously "in use" on the night stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Okay, that makes sense, kinda. How about the "registered" part? Typical newspaper idiocy, or sad reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Kris Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Sounds like their plan worked quite well. Good on them for defending themselves against the druggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Okay, that makes sense, kinda. How about the "registered" part? Typical newspaper idiocy, or sad reality? From CA DOJ website "There is no firearm registration requirement in California except for assault weapon owners and personal handgun importers." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckhorn Bud Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Okay, that makes sense, kinda. How about the "registered" part? Typical newspaper idiocy, or sad reality? Unfortunately it's a sad reality. All handguns in the Socialist Republic of California purchased, transported into the state, or transfered in ownership, in the state after a certin date must be registered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Unfortunately it's a sad reality. All handguns in the Socialist Republic of California purchased, transported into the state, or transfered in ownership, in the state after a certin date must be registered. So the DOJ website has the wrong info? That sucks. FAQ #26 on their website: 26. How do I know if my firearms need to be registered? There is no firearm registration requirement in California except for assault weapon owners and personal handgun importers. However, you may submit a Firearm Ownership Record to the DOJ for any firearm you own. Having a Firearm Ownership Record on file with the DOJ may help in the return of your firearm if it is lost or stolen. With very few and specific exceptions, all firearm transactions must be conducted through a firearms dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Unfortunately it's a sad reality. All handguns in the Socialist Republic of California purchased, transported into the state, or transfered in ownership, in the state after a certin date must be registered. I'm sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. QUINCANNON, SASS #32999 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Hey, I went to elementary and high school with the author of the story. His older brother Ed was in my class from kindergarten through high school graduation. Good guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 When the intruder was about seven feet away, he lunged for Bart’sgun. Bart fired, hitting him in the hip. The bullet exited, and nickedthe Ardises’ coffee table before a pair of jeans, among other pieces offolded laundry, stopped it. The intruder staggered toward the sofa. “The only time I cursed was when he was going to lay down and bleed all overmy couch,” Melissa said. “Don’t you dare bleed all over my (expletive)couch! He lay down on the floor.” Added Bart, “He became very compliant at that point.” Love it! Now, re "registration" in CA. From http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/ab991 Firearms Information for New California ResidentsHandguns Any person who moves into California and who brings any pistol,revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person is consideredto be a "Personal Handgun Importer" and is required to do one of the followingwithin 60 days: or Complete and submit a NEW RESIDENT HANDGUN OWNERSHIP REPORT formalong with $19.00 to the Department of Justice. A separatereport form and $19.00 fee is required for each handgun reported. NEWRESIDENT HANDGUN OWNERSHIP REPORT forms can be obtained from CaliforniaDepartment of Motor Vehicles' offices, licensed firearms dealers, localpolice and sheriff's departments, the California Department of Justice Bureau of Firearms at (916) 227-7527, and from theOnline Forms Page at this site. Sell or transfer the handgun(s) to a California licensed firearms dealeror to another individual using a California licensed firearms dealer toconduct the transaction. Sell or transfer the handgun(s) to a California police or sheriff's department.Persons choosing this option should contact the law enforcement agency forinstructions prior to transporting the handgun(s) to the agency. Any person transporting handguns in California is required under Californialaw to transport those handguns unloaded and in a locked container other thanthe glove compartment or utility compartment of a vehicle. SHOTGUNS AND RIFLESCalifornia law does not require persons moving into California report riflesor shotguns. One important thing to be aware of though is that certain riflesand shotguns may be defined asassault weapons in California and are prohibitedfrom entering this state under most normal circumstances. Additionally, machineguns and ammunition feeding devices with the capacity to accept greater that10 rounds may not be transported into California. Please be aware that failure to comply with these mandated handgunrequirements could result in criminal prosecution (Penal Code Section 27590). See also: http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/volreg.pdf And, if I recall, Gov. Brown signed into law a bill that will require a "report" on long guns starting sometime soon. How this "Handgun Ownership Report" differs from registration is a mystery known only to the capons who drafted the magic legislation that turns registration into only a reporting. Read more here: http://www.modbee.com/2013/11/16/3035629/rural-oakdale-family-knew-the.html#storylink=cpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeBagodonuts Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 They showed a LOT of restraint not shooting the guy when they found him in their house. It might be that they're in a rural area, but I know my neighbors. None of them would be stupid enough to come into someone's house at night without knocking on the door and making sure they know they're welcome. Coming into someone's house at night, uninvited and unannounced, is a sure way to find out how big a hole a 12 gauge makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 This is one of the stupider statements I've seen/heard recently. "At the 911 operator’s instructions and with deputies arriving, Bartrelinquished his weapon. He handed it to Melissa, who had her own.40-caliber pistol in her left hand." Someone breaks into my house. I get him outside, and he's now trying to break in AGAIN, and the 911 operator says, "Sir, put your gun away", and I say, "Okay", and DO IT?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Yeeeaaaaaahhhhh. That's not gonna happen. As was pointed out, all over the internet, with the Zimmerman case - 911 operator is a TELEPHONE OPERATOR. An answering service. They have no authority to tell you to do anything, They are miles away, listening to an excited person on a telephone, and they are giving "advice" that could get you killed if you obeyed? Not just no, but hell no. Read more here: http://www.modbee.com/2013/11/16/3035629/rural-oakdale-family-knew-the.html#storylink=cpy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 This is one of the stupider statements I've seen/heard recently. "At the 911 operator’s instructions and with deputies arriving, Bart relinquished his weapon. He handed it to Melissa, who had her own .40-caliber pistol in her left hand." Someone breaks into my house. I get him outside, and he's now trying to break in AGAIN, and the 911 operator says, "Sir, put your gun away", and I say, "Okay", and DO IT?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Yeeeaaaaaahhhhh. That's not gonna happen. As was pointed out, all over the internet, with the Zimmerman case - 911 operator is a TELEPHONE OPERATOR. An answering service. They have no authority to tell you to do anything, They are miles away, listening to an excited person on a telephone, and they are giving "advice" that could get you killed if you obeyed? Not just no, but hell no. Read more here: http://www.modbee.com/2013/11/16/3035629/rural-oakdale-family-knew-the.html#storylink=cpy" The 911 operators are trained to give that advice. As you say, you have no obligation to listen to it. And obviously you don't want to do it if there is still a threat. It looks like the gut was out of the house when the homeowner gave his gun to his wife. You don't want to be holding a gun when the cops show up. The best thing to do is to wait until the bad guy is down or gone and the police are at the door putting your gun away. You don't want to survive the initial incident only to be shot by mistake. It's happened before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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