Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) There is increased talk with many lawmakers, and states on putting Black Boxes in vehicles, state of Washington is in the forefront, and tax people according to how much they drive. What was hilarious was a caller, in saying the way things are going in taxing people, that ankle bracelets may not be to far behind, and they'll call it a "sidewalk tax". MT I can say for certain, my landline phone bill, has taxes added, that equal the main charge. Edited October 28, 2013 by Marshal Troop, SASS #70448 Quote
Utah Bob #35998 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 One way to "spread the wealth around". More taxes. Quote
Waimea Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 There is increased talk with many lawmakers, and states on putting Black Boxes in vehicles, state of Washington is in the forefront, and tax people according to how much they drive. What was hilarious was a caller, in saying the way things are going in taxing people, that ankle bracelets may not be to far behind, and they'll call it a "sidewalk tax". MT I can say for certain, my landline phone bill, has taxes added, that equal the main charge. Raising the gas tax would accomplish the same thing but they don't want to be lynched. Apparently taxes by tech are a lot more palettable to the sheeple. Waimea Quote
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Raising the gas tax would accomplish the same thing but they don't want to be lynched. Apparently taxes by tech are a lot more palettable to the sheeple. Waimea Partly true. Partly the problem is that you have electrics and other hybrids that are not buying much if any fuel. Or at least less than my big Dodge pickup. So, revenue is down on the sales of fossil fuels because of our need to save the planet. So, buy an electric to save the planet so we can put boxes in everyone's car to monitor actual mileage in order to collect enough taxes. And that is all we'll ever use that information for. Promise! Edited October 28, 2013 by Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Quote
Virgil Ray Hality, SASS# 37355 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Ha! I'll stick with my horse and buggy. Quote
Utah Bob #35998 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 All they can do is mandate them in new cars. Wouldn't be able to retrofit them in old models. Quote
Virgil Ray Hality, SASS# 37355 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Okay then, I can upgrade to a Model T. Quote
The Shoer 27979 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 All they can do is mandate them in new cars. Wouldn't be able to retrofit them in old models. That's what I was going to say Bob,my '38 GMC is looking better and better Quote
Matthew Duncan Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Bracelet? Wouldn't a chip under the skin of your hand or forehead be more practical? Quote
Spades Hanlin SASS#66204 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Bracelet? Wouldn't a chip under the skin of your hand or forehead be more practical? Yikes!!!! Better get the foil helmet out.. Spades H.. Quote
Utah Bob #35998 Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 Bracelet? Wouldn't a chip under the skin of your hand or forehead be more practical? Ja. Und perhaps a serial number tattoo. Quote
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 All they can do is mandate them in new cars. Wouldn't be able to retrofit them in old models. Actually, they could, and relatively simply: GPS. There are already any number of "smartphone" apps that do this. Imagine a mobile "smart meter" like so many of us now have on our homes for electricity and gas... but it'd measure mileage instead of energy. And they could even have varying rates based on time of travel (higher rate for "rush hour") or even roads traveled (imagine cities collecting their share). Quote
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 There is increased talk with many lawmakers, and states on putting Black Boxes in vehicles, state of Washington is in the forefront, and tax people according to how much they drive. What was hilarious was a caller, in saying the way things are going in taxing people, that ankle bracelets may not be to far behind, and they'll call it a "sidewalk tax". MT I can say for certain, my landline phone bill, has taxes added, that equal the main charge. Microchip in your drivers license, passport, whatever. Heck, Why couldn't smart meters be commandeered by the Department of ________ to simply see when you leave home. Quote
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 They've already got the technology up and working. We have an abomination in Georgia call the Peach Pass lanes. It's a proximity chip on a sticker that goes on the windshield. It monitors how long you travel in the express lane. It then deducts the fluctuating amount from your prefunded account. It would be easy to put them up at intersections and entrance ramps. Quote
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 The "Mark of the Beast?" I reckon I just might have to resist that one!!!! Quote
Poet Jones 99980 Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 Anybody seen that movie "Dragon Day"?. One day all vehicles built after a certain year stop working. Yeh you guessed it...electronic ignition built in China. A precursor to all out Invasion. Quote
Blackwater 53393 Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 I'm liking my '60 Jeep project more and more!! The old Harley ain't lookin' so bad neither!!! Quote
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 Washington State has a monitor pass for the floating bridge on Route 520. I am not sure how it works but in is somehow reading your windshield as you pass over. The lie er story behind it is that the bridge is leaking and we need a new one. Last time they built one, there was a small toll on the bridge with long lines behind it at rush hour. That said, that even with embezzlements and all of the other stuff that happened, they paid off the bridge early. Now they discovered a leak and want several dollars a day to pass over the leaking bridge, one way. I think the State is addicted to money. Quote
Utah Bob #35998 Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 I think the State is addicted to money. All governments are addicted to free money! Quote
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 From my side of the bridge, the money ain't FREE. Quote
Virgil Ray Hality, SASS# 37355 Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) Uh, your cell phone is trackable. It can be turned on to transmit by the phone company without your help. As for the car... that kind of technology is in most hign end cars now. Edited October 30, 2013 by Virgil Ray Hality, SASS# 37355 Quote
Warden Callaway Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Gas tax is distributed over everyone that buys fuel used on public roads. If they put a black box in every car and tax by miles driven then they can pick and choose who they tax and how much they tax so everyone pays their "fair share". Quote
Clay Mosby Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 But if you drive more, you pay more gas tax, less if you drive less, so aren't you already taxed your fair share? Just wonderin'. Quote
Chantry Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Do a search on RFID chips in children. The technology is here and they are already trying to use it Quote
Warden Callaway Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 But if you drive more, you pay more gas tax, less if you drive less, so aren't you already taxed your fair share? Just wonderin'. What I'm saying some will get a free pass just like food stamps, free school lunch, subsidize housing and free health care. Others will pay their "fair share" and for those that get a free ride. Quote
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