McCandless Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'm sure this must have been discussed sometime in the past, but a search doesn't bring it up for me... (I may be wording it wrong). Can someone tell me the differences in the different generations of short-stroke kits? Does this change between maker, or is it an accepted nomenclature? Thanks, McC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventura Slim, SASS #35690 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I sort of know them by the gunsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I think most of it is determined by the length of the lever throw. The 5th generation being the shortest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abanaki, SASS #34557 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Was using a first generation kit but it had a major crash and burn when the pivot pins fell out. It was replaced with a later generation unit which had spot welds holding pins in place instead of pin punch marks. I would say that as the builders improve the design they are called the next generation. By he way their super short stroke kit is awesome. I have no idea what generation 4 or 5 have that is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Generally the terms were set by Cowboys and Indian products. Each set was a little shorter stroke, with the exception of the 4th and 5th gen which are the same length. The 4th gen came with a new lever as well as the links. The 5th gen did not need a replacement lever, but the 4th gen is easier for some folks to use as a "drop in" part. Several folks make the kits, including Cowboys and India, Pioneer Gunworks, The Ottway Smith, and at least one on the East coast I'm not remembering right now. (sorry!!) A few other smiths still modify the gun by making their own changes including possibly cutting and welding parts rather than using replacement links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Junky Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Generally the terms were set by Cowboys and Indian products. Each set was a little shorter stroke, with the exception of the 4th and 5th gen which are the same length. The 4th gen came with a new lever as well as the links. The 5th gen did not need a replacement lever, but the 4th gen is easier for some folks to use as a "drop in" part. Several folks make the kits, including Cowboys and India, Pioneer Gunworks, The Ottway Smith, and at least one on the East coast I'm not remembering right now. (sorry!!) A few other smiths still modify the gun by making their own changes including possibly cutting and welding parts rather than using replacement links. And don't forget the "cut & weld" guns.....they seem to fall right between the 3rd and 4/5th. A pretty good length IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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