Guest Jess Money Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 We're all aware what the short stroke kit does for speed, but how many folks shoot without one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Morgan Rum, SASS #6859 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have three 73's and one of them has not been short stroked. Because I haven't gotten around to it yet. I also have three Marlins, two short stroked and one not. Same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketchum Quick, SASS #72923 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have not shortened the stroke on my Berreta Renegade. Does that count? KQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit Bull Tex Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have two 73s that are short stroked and I love them.If I were not going to short stroke a 73, I would shoot my slicked 92.The 92 is lighter and points better and when slicked is as slick as any 73. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redleg Reilly, SASS #46372 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 My '73 does not have a short stroke in it and I don't see doing it. Reason - don't think the cost involved will equal out to that much increased performance on the range. Not without something called practice, which I don't do. And I have noticed that I can hold my own against the short stokes as long as there are four or more rifle targets. Triple taps and dumps allow the short stokes to blaze by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Actually, quite a few folks shoot rifles that haven't been short stroked. I always gave my customers the choice. The biggest bang for your rifle buck is a real good action job. Make the rifle user friendly and you'll have lots of fun with it. Coffinmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger #3720LR Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 1860 Uberti Henry. Was used to make some of the first Hooper mfg short stroke links. After he got all the dimentions and got them working as he wanted, I had him replace my stock links. He use my rifle for a place to start patterns. None of my guns have anything more than just being slicked up. I like it that way. Everyone is welcome to do what they think is best for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angus McPherson Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Nope. Too much $$$ for me. If money were not a factor I'd get it done. As it is I've still got a mortgage and a bunch of other bills to pay first. With, or without, a short stroked rifle I'm not fast enough to win anything. So my possibly winning something isn't a consideration. But I do like shooting slick and accurate guns. Angus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Matt McCord, SASS #24683 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Mine is not short-stroked because I'm not a fast shooter in the first place. Having one short-stroked would just be wasted money for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddnews SASS# 24779 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 None here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Haller Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Howdy! None here also. Never was interested in any speed it might give one. "Competition" is pretty much the least draw CAS has for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams 3674 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have a New Winchester 1873 that I have not short stroked. Oh, wait! Winchester did it for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Flat Swindler Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 My '66 is fairly stock. I changed the loading gate and changed out the butter soft screws for hardened steel screws. I prefer to be as fast as I can with stock equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmeat Dad, SASS #48563L Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Neither of my 73s, nor my 66, are short stroked although all of them have action jobs. When shooting BP, the time savings of a short stroke just means more time staring at the smoke before the target reappears! Dogmeat Dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickB Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have a 66 and a 73 and will not short stroke either one of them. In fact, I will never short stroke any of my rifles. For one thing I'm an NCOWS member and they don't allow it, and the other, even if NCOWS would allow it I wouldn't do it then either. I'm not a gamer and don't abide by that mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Tombstone_Holliday Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have two 73s that are short stroked and I love them.If I were not going to short stroke a 73, I would shoot my slicked 92.The 92 is lighter and points better and when slicked is as slick as any 73. What is involved in slicking a 92? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 What is involved in slicking a 92? From what I have heard, the best thing to do is send it to Nate Kiowa Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Dick, SASS #12880 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have an 1860 Henry that is not short stroked since that would seem like heresy. I also want an NCOWS legal rifle although I have not shot NCOWS for years. My '73 Border rifles are all short-stroked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivery Keys #11974 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Since I have a range at my house many people want to shoot my cowboy guns. I normally shoot a Marlin in competition, but have two '73s that I shoot silhouette with and will not short stroke because I want people to have an authentic feel for them. Of course, I also shoot mostly BP under those circumstances... Regards, Ivery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calico Mary Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 My 73 isn't...was barely able to afford the rifle, ain't had the money to spare for it ever since and it ain't likely to happen any time soon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 My 73 is not short stroked, I can miss fast enough without it. I do have all the parts out in the shop, just waiting for the right time. Assassin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 We're all aware what the short stroke kit does for speed, but how many folks shoot without one? Short stroke a rifle! What would John Wayne do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I've been fortunate enough to have accumulated four '73's and one '66 in 5 different calibers. None are shortstroked but I've played with the springs and they all feel good. Like some of the previous posters, I don't practice and often shoot BP. If I shortstroked one I think I'd need to do them all. Maybe some day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jess Money Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Thanks for all the responses, pards. I have a new Taylor's '73 that hasn't even been used at a match yet. I ran a several hundred rounds through it before I opened it up to see what was what. I used a couple of hard translucent Arkansas stones to polish all the areas showing signs of friction and polished the sides of the carrier and the inside of the frame where the carrier runs to remove some very light scratches. Yesterday I replaced the front sight, lever and lifter springs, trigger return spring, main spring and added a lever wrap. It's scary how much smoother this rifle is now compared to when I received it. With the few simple modifications I've made, I can now cock the rifle with one finger in the lever loop.(And, as an aside, NOW I know what all the fuss was about the trigger straightening threads. Ouch, ouch, OUCH!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Mike #8595 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 mine are old, probably still second gen does that count in your survey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Actually, quite a few folks shoot rifles that haven't been short stroked. I always gave my customers the choice. The biggest bang for your rifle buck is a real good action job. Make the rifle user friendly and you'll have lots of fun with it. Howdy Yup, my '73 has been slicked up pretty nice, but I never put a short stroke kit into it. Like it just fine the way it is. I have an original Winchester model 1873 made in 1887. It has not been short stroked either, although I did replace the hammer spring because it was strong enough to be a suspension spring on a Mack truck. My Henry has been slicked up too. And I ain't saying if it has been short stroked or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankyframe #44046 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Got two long strokers, don't see the need to change them. LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafe Conager SASS #56958 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 nope, got a 73 and a 66 no short stroke, shoot bp and like dogmeat said just sit there waiting for smoke to clear ain't worth the money for a shortstroke. Rafe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama Red Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Agree with Dogmeat and Rafe. With an average stage time of 60 seconds/stage, I just couldn't justify the expense. If I did that, I'd probably have to cut that 30" barrel as weqqll so's I could get it on target quicker. Then, of course, I'd switch to smokeless powder so I would never lose sight of the steel and then cut the load down from my usual full case BP loads to half case smokeless and fill the case with grits so my sights never leave the target due to recoil. Whhhhhheeeeewwwww!!! This short-stroking sure seems like a lot of time and money to save maybe 1-2 seconds per stage!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorty Jack Hammer Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Mine is not. I have ordered new springs to smooth it up, but not sure I'm going to short stroke it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jess Money Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I have not shortened the stroke on my Berreta Renegade. Does that count? KQ mine are old, probably still second gen does that count in your survey? Yes indeed! Replies regarding the subject should always be welcome. Since there may be others having the same question, especially new members, this information might be of help them, one way or another. I've learned a great deal just by reading posts I haven't even been engaged in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Don't have a 73 ,,,,,,,,,,,, My 66 is Not Short stroked nor is my Marlin or any other gun ... Shoot mine as designed ... Need the extra time to see through da Smoke ....... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Nope ........ I also use an '87 shotgun and don't want to develop any bad habits from a short-stroked rifle that might affect the operation of my shotgun. I have been told that I "NEED" to install a short-stroke kit in my '73 to go fast and win ....... ......... I asked "who said I have to go fast ..... or win ????" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jess Money Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Nope ........ I also use an '87 shotgun and don't want to develop any bad habits from a short-stroked rifle that might affect the operation of my shotgun. I have been told that I "NEED" to install a short-stroke kit in my '73 to go fast and win ....... ......... I asked "who said I have to go fast ..... or win ????" LOL! Excellent answer, Wallaby Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I have a real Winchester 73 in .32-20 and I'd never consider short stroking it. I just like 'em the way they were made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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