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OLD WEST or as seen on B-Western movies and television.

 

Wow, nice cherry picking. You highlighted the one phrase in the sentence that supports your position while completely ignoring the rest of the sentence. ( I highlighted the rest just to help you out.) As has already been pointed out, jeans were extremely popular in both of those.

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Gee..I guess you don't like to see old style cowpoke clothing....play like the "Modern looking westerner you want to be"...play your own way cause you missed the point...some just like to see more of the Old west...don't worry about pleasing me .....sorry you were so threatened..much apologies..Tuco.

 

I think you'd be surprised by what I wear. Our very own Larsen E. Pettifogger even took a picture of me at this year's Winter Range which appeared in the Chronical. I'm not a minimalist when it comes to costumes. But if I were, I'd still be within the rules and would take GREAT offense at anyone giving me a hard time just because I wasn't playing the game the way they think it should be played.

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Tex is gonna be Tex.....every few months he stirs the pot with a few choice words in the Chronicle. The fact of the matter is that other than State Championship and above shoots, the local clubs control what goes on....or off for that matter! In the local and annual shoots I attend all over Colorado, Arizona, Nevada and New Mexico, I rarely see anyone without acceptable clothing. Where most of the problems occur is at after shoot activities. Awards, dinners and socializing are all open to criticism.

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Stan, Chotchkie's Manager: We need to talk about your flair.

 

Joanna: Really? I... I have fifteen pieces on. I, also...

 

Stan, Chotchkie's Manager: Well, okay. Fifteen is the minimum, okay?

 

Joanna: Okay.

 

Stan, Chotchkie's Manager: Now, you know it's up to you whether or not you want to just do the bare minimum. Or... well, like Brian, for example, has thirty seven pieces of flair, okay. And a terrific smile.

 

Joanna: Okay. So you... you want me to wear more?

 

Stan, Chotchkie's Manager: Look. Joanna.

 

Joanna: Yeah.

 

Stan, Chotchkie's Manager: People can get a cheeseburger anywhere, okay? They come to Chotchkie's for the atmosphere and the attitude. Okay? That's what the flair's about. It's about fun.

 

Joanna: Yeah. Okay. So more then, yeah?

 

Stan, Chotchkie's Manager: Look, we want you to express yourself, okay? Now if you feel that the bare minimum is enough, then okay. But some people choose to wear more and we encourage that, okay? You do want to express yourself, don't you?

 

Joanna: Yeah, yeah.

 

Stan, Chotchkie's Manager: Okay. Great. Great. That's all I ask.

 

Bill Lumbergh: Yeeeah. So, if you could just buy everything at Wild West Merchantile and wear it Saturday....that would be great. :lol: :lol:

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See...I don't care to ever "Apologize" to folks for the way they feel about my opinions. If I do something wrong...that would deserve an apology. Nor will I be patronizing...that's not the "Cowboy Way" either.

 

I am not distraught...I think you give yourself and your opinion too much power.

 

Do you...feel as though your opinion shouldn't have garnered any negative responses? No...you don't...otherwise you wouldn't have made the statement "So before you stay up late to blast me..."

 

Making the statement "Some shooters I see lately are in a word...obsessed. To a point of just plain unhealthy" is in my opinion judgmental...who are you to say that it's unhealthy? Based on...who's values?

 

I'm sure yer a great guy...I disagree with your opinion and I disagree with even making it. Why? Because it is glorifying your values over others...just don't like it.

 

And I don't need any "Group" session crap...I have a wonderful life...one that me and my family...my friends (read THAT to mean actual people that I've developed relationships IN PERSON and not on the internet...like the WIRE or FACEBOOK), enjoy. I don't go around telling others how to prioritize elements within their lives...I'm not able to claim the authority to do that...perhaps you are?

 

So if you folks that feel like things ain't right with SASS...even if your a WB member (and I like TEX), then CHANGE THE DAMN RULES! Sitting around and bitchin about it is chicks***.

 

Cheers!

 

Phantom

Phantom, many beers on me next time we together....love this post

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I say Bull!

 

Tell me where " definitely a move to cheapen the game in the name of competitiveness". At matches of late I've seen an up-tick in dress...EoT had more kids wearing chaps, chinks, vests...a whole bunch of nice "costumes".

 

Throwing the term "Spirit of the Game" out there is a cheap shot...IMHO. We already have a best working costume award...what, do you want to shame folks for wearing a minimalist costume? If that's the case, lobby to change the costuming rules.

 

Obsessed?? Hell, I can show you some folks that are obsessed with religion...guess what?! That's their choice. Don't think that you have life's priorities in better order then others.

 

You seem to have a guilty conscience and want to feel better about your choices at the expense of others.

 

If there is anything that's going to wreck this game it's folks that are judgmental of other's that play the game within the rules. Don't like the rules, lobby to change them. But don't whine if your ideas get voted down.

 

Phantom

 

 

That's bull. Ya put your opinion out there and accept the fact that other's opinions may differ...and your opinion may be WRONG!

 

When you also put out your opinion...and then state that you EXPECT to be flamed...then MAYBE you should rephrase your opinion or simply not give it.

 

The OP was not only an OPINION of dress, but it was a JUDGEMENT of others. THAT is not necessary, but if one wants to pass judgment on others then they should be willing to accept strong opinions to the contrary.

 

There are folks that will take an EXCEPTION to represent a trend. Often times this is done by folks that either don't get out much, or are new to the game...or some kind of combination of the two.

 

Outside of relaxed Summer dress codes, I've seen an up-tick of dressing up.

 

Phantom

 

 

You mean like you're doing?

 

 

Same here. Seems pretty much like black pots and kettles to me :wacko:

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Well... yes it is both..Tex's article and I agree... if it's legal its legal and there is a big tent of interpretation...It seems to me the WB is questioning whether costuming is stepping up or sliding down. The way I see it.... it is COWBOY action shooting...not action shooting-cowboy division and thats what I mean by the cheapening of the game. Within the rules I say live and let live. For me and I think for the WB..this is a fantasy style game and I'm going to play it that way. I'm going to say my line as loud as I can. And while I'm wearing striped pants that look like I stole a couch for fabric, I'm not going to take myself too seriously. I think some of you guys have written more into Tex's article than is really there. I like the rules just fine. I don't think there should be any need for costuming rules. I want to play Cowboy..the more accurate the better. If it was just about the guns I could shoot my stuff in Steel Challenge or something and wear shorts and a guitar T-shirt.

Howdy Dash, I think you might want to read Tex's article again, he hates jeans, and he hates jeans with belts, and and modern snap cowboy shirts, these are some of the very items required for the B-Western category. Grizz's outfit has the look typical of the late 19th century, a B-western movie, or Western television series, but if Tex had his way it would be outlawed. I'm not bad mouthing Tex here just stating a fact, Tex goes off on costumes, jeans, shirts and footwear at least two or three times a year, every year. He even acknowledges that he has heard from the paying customer and they wish he would move on to more positive aspects of the game. But he's not, he's gonna take it to the TGs and try to have Grizz's costume outlawed because it doesn't fit his fantasy, even when it meets the criteria of the rules "typical of the late 19th century, a B-western movie, or Western television series" Grizz's outfit could be found on just about any Roy Rogers or Gene Autry movie set as a ranch hand.

IMHO Tex wants everyone to look like a cowboy, or his fantasy of the old west.. I don't think there is a one of us here talking about this that does not go to some lengths on their costumes, but all of them don't look like a cowboy with suspender pants, vests and wrist cuffs. We have ranch hands, preachers, bartenders, blacksmiths, townies, sod busters, Indian chiefs....etc...etc. I usually dress as a townie, suspender pants, arm bands, vest, pocket watch, scarf (tied like Randolph Scott did), beaver hat, and yes shoes, I remember at the last Mule Camp there were about 30 guys wearing their red longjohns, and a bunch of ladies in bloomers, I wonder if that would meet the costume compliance act of 2014. :huh:

IMHO most of us that do not agree with Tex on this think we do "get it" and have from day one. Most of us have not seen this rampant disregard for costume compliance and often wonder where this constant criticism comes from. A little quote from "The Judge" Good Luck :)

 

"Everybody seems to think we're a period shoot, but we're not. We're a fantasy cowboy acting shoot." - Judge Roy Bean

 

 

Quote Tex's article

 

"I’ve written many editorials over the years regarding the

importance of appropriate costuming in SASS. I've even received heartfelt notes

to the effect of enough already! Write about guns and gear, how to be a better competitor,

and the like. Pd love to but we still

have a number of folks who just “don't get it!” Right from the “git-go” SASS recognized

the importance of costuming. It's one of the things that make our shooting game

unique and it provides an environment

where we can play out our Old West fantasies and help make America safe for

God-fearing families. It’s an extension of the game most of us played as kids the only real difference is in the price of

our toys!

 

 

It took some of us a while to “catch on,” but even in the

early days most of us realized it wasn’t all that hard to create an Old West

outfit. In those days, that generally meant a shopping trip to the thrift store

and a little cutting and sewing when we got home. SASS did everything it could

to encourage costuming, including holding costume contests and recognizing

costume contest winners on roughly the same par as our shooting winners. END of

TRAIL had five separate costume contests this year!

Over the years numerous costuming merchants have sprung up,

and several of these are major sponsors of various SASS events. Today it's

extremely easy to create a “knock-out" costume right off the rack! Some of

these merchants and sponsors have correctly observed a noticeable decline in

recent years in the quality of many of our competitors’ costumes and it is a

large concern to them. And, a review of the photographs from several annual

matches, including but not restricted to Winter Range and END of TRAIL, lends

validity to their observations. Either some of our folks still “just don’t get

it,” or they do understand, but don't believe costume compliance is worth the

effort. And, worst of all some of these

folks are winners folks who should be

setting an example for the rest of our shooters

particularly for our newer and younger competitors. These are our role

models, and some are falling way short in wearing appropriate costumes.

In the Shooters Handbook, there are two sections dealing specifically

with costumes—the first lays out the costuming requirements and the second

provides a list of outlawed items. If an outlawed item is worn to the firing

line, it results in a Stage Disqualification and two Stage Disqualifications

are a Match Disqualification. We don’t see too many of these items!

The first section provides the requirements Participants may choose the style of costume

they wish to wear, but all clothing m H-Si be typical of the late 19th century,

a B-western movie, or Western television series. It goes on to say, Shooters

mast remain in costume at all match events:

dinners, award ceremonies, dances,

etcetcra.

The requirements are clear, very broad, and allow all sorts

of creativity. They were never meant to be restrictive. Costumes can be very

elaborate .... some are. They can be

very simple ... and many are . . . but Wranglers are NOT part of the equation! They're

not outlawed but they are definitely not

Old West, either.

I've seen t-shirts, jeans, and “some sort of boots” worn at

annual matches, as well as ball caps, and, indeed, “civies” worn in the awards

lineups most folks are far too savvy to

try this at END of TRAIL, but a review of the END of TRAIL Top Gun Shoot-off

competition shows many of our Winners wearing non-descript "work" or modern

“cowboy” shirts and belted jeans. These folks should be representing the best

there is in SASS in shooting and their costumes. On the shooting side, the RD Committee

has long recognized “if it’s a rule, what’s the penalty for

non-compliance?" And in this case, there is no commonly accepted answer

when considering the costuming requirements. SASS has chosen to cajole,

persuade, and lead by example. Unfortunately, that’s not working.

Few have been willing to take on the role of “Costuming

Police." “while it's clear we want folks to “suit up," there is

considerable leeway in what is acceptable and what is not. Our Match Directors and

Range Officers (and, indeed, our participating SASS members) do not feel they

have the authority or a “rule directive” in the Handbook that gives them the

obligation to make a judgment call regarding someone’s costume.

 

It’s common practice for newcomers to be given “cart blanche”

leeway regarding costuming until they can get their stuff together but they ARE expected to finally acquire an

appropriate costume. In my mind, anyone who chooses to not acquire an appropriate

shooting costume is in violation of the “Spirit of the Game” and deserves a

3O—second penalty for each and every stage in which they compete. But, that’s

not the common understanding or practice, either.

The RO Committee will be adding this important subject to the

Territorial Governor's Agenda to be addressed at this year's SASS Convention in Branson, MO. It's time to become more definitive as to what's acceptable and the

penalty For non-compliance.

 

(This is not just Tex speaking. This subject has the support of the entire Wild Bunch...Cat)"

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nothing new here to see folks

some shooters dress to kill

others may dress just enough to get by and not called out

some may push the envelope and wear, banned stuff, tee shirts, ball caps cuz it is hot out::::or just cuz,

 

It is tex's job as editor to remind folks from time to time that dressing the part is PART of the experience

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Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart wrote in Jacobellis v.Ohio (1964), "I can't define pornography, but I know it when I see it." Costuming, to some extent, is like that.


John Wayne in his B-western days wore blue jeans, but it was part of a costume. His clothes looked "right" for the movie, and it was a really low budget movie, so no one cared about authenticity. You didn't notice the blue jeans because he was wearing a western hat, western shirt, wild rag, etc.

 

Jay Leno wears blue jeans and denim shirt when he works in his garage. That is not a costume.

 

Grizzly Dave is in a costume. If you’re wearing a costume throughout the entire (major) match, Tex isn’t complaining about you.

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Actually, it is not just Tex. At the Western Regional Hipshot chaired the TG meeting. The first topic he raised was costuming and what could be done to get people to dress a little more cowboy. After a very short discussion the answer was nothing. If someone is wearing the "minimum" required by the rules, they are complying with the rules. If we want to raise the standard it will require a rule change.

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I agree with what several people have said here. ;)

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Are you Obama's new Syria negotiator? :lol:

Yes and No. :D

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Actually, it is not just Tex. At the Western Regional Hipshot chaired the TG meeting. The first topic he raised was costuming and what could be done to get people to dress a little more cowboy. After a very short discussion the answer was nothing. If someone is wearing the "minimum" required by the rules, they are complying with the rules. If we want to raise the standard it will require a rule change.

Yes, a thousand times yes. If you don't like the rules, try to change them. Until then, if someone is within the rules, stop complaining that they're 'minimally' attired. Wranglers may not be 'part of the equation' but they're legal. I don't believe it's the cowboy way to create an 'invisible' standard and then give people a hard time for not abiding by it.

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Are you Obama's new Syria negotiator? :lol:

The main problem here is 'boots on the ground'. Anyone who doesn't think denim is cowboy has lost some touch with reality. What the heck difference does it make if you're wearing Wahmaker or Wrangler when two others on the posse are wearing lugged, molded sole trail boots?

 

Get a grip, TEX.... you can't define or enforce the footwear requirement and now you're going to attempt to define the "WESTERN-NESS" of a pair of jeans? :lol::lol:

 

Can I please be there when the first penalty gets awarded? This should be an historical moment in SASS.

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One point on the subject. I'll dress "Cowboy" but I ain't where'n no "costume", never ever.

 

The mayor of Williams, AZ came out to Railhead a few years ago and commented how good we all looked in our, "...what do you call what you all wear?"

 

To which I heartily replied, "Clothes!!!".

 

 

 

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Wikipedia....Western Dress

 

Trousers




In the early days of the Wild West trousers (US English: pants) were
made out of wool. In summer canvas was sometimes used. This changed
during the Gold Rush of the 1840s when denim overalls became popular among miners for their cheapness and breathability. Levi Strauss improved the design by adding copper rivets[15] and by the 1870s this design was adopted by ranchers and cowboys.[16] The original Levi's jeans were soon followed by other makers including Wrangler jeans[17] and Lee Cooper. These were frequently accessorised with kippy belts featuring metal conchos and large belt buckles


Leather chaps were often worn to protect the cowboy's legs from cactus spines and prevent the fabric from wearing out.[18] Two common types include the skintight shotgun chaps[19]
and wide batwing chaps. The latter were sometimes made from hides
retaining their hair (known as "woolies") rather than tanned leather.
They appeared on the Great Plains somewhere around 1887.[20]


Women wore knee-length prairie skirts,[21] red or blue gingham dresses or suede fringed skirts derived from Native American dress. Saloon girls wore short red dresses with corsets, garter belts and stockings.

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:blink: ...Don't recall I've ever worn a pair of blue jeans at a match. :mellow:

 

 

All this makes me want to wear a pair this Saturday.... :ph34r:

 

 

:P

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:blink: ...Don't recall I've ever worn a pair of blue jeans at a match. :mellow:

 

 

All this makes me want to wear a pair this Saturday.... :ph34r:

 

 

:P

I wear brown or black ones

I used to cut off the back pockets and belt loops in the old days

but not after they invented B-western

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Seems to me, that we should all step back from the mirror and look to ourselves. The rest of ya can hang.

 

Frankly, part of the problem ARE those selfsame vendors. 501 Levis are the ONE current brand that has the best pedigree to be "authentic"... sorta... but even if you want to politicize this issue, they are of generally far better quality than ANY of the other "authentic" pants suppliers. And frankly, are cheaper. The outlet store near me has 2 or more pairs for $38.99. Want a pair of period correct lookin' pants? Cut those belt loops off a pair of button-fly 501s and nail on some suspender buttons from Wal-Mart (notions section). Between the buttons, cost of the pants, I'm still getting 3 pairs of pants of better quality for about the same cost as 2 of those others.

 

Poor quality, blended fabrics, and over-priced to boot do little to endear some manufacturers to those that wish for a little quality and period correctness in our "outfits". "Costuming" being a poor choice of words, in this man's opinion. From more'n 60 years of wearing western dress, one thing I've learned, cotton is cooler than any blended fabric... Even wool is cooler than wool-blends. Frankly, those vendors that offer blends as a way to offer lower prices, are the ones cheapening the look of folk's outfits.

 

Don't get me wrong, as I'm sure that others feel the same, I'll pay more for GOOD quality goods, but won't waste my money on cheap products. I won't wear polyester or polyester blended shirts as part of my regular daily wear... why would I spend money to buy such trash as part of my "outfit"?

 

Whether a person wears the best of "outfits", or the very minimalist, it is their decision, not mine. Between leather, clothes, and guns, there are three areas of lookin' "cowboy" (for lack of a better term, & is used here convey townsman, farrier, banker, harlot, bartender or other old west character, to include Scotsmen in their kilts). Oftimes, these three must, of necessity, be kept in balance, in their acquisition, refinement (modifications), general upkeep and in the case of firearms, in the gain of proficiency. And since this IS a shooting sport, is it no wonder than folks concentrate of their ammo and firearms than their "outfits"? And yes, it's quite easy to become fixated on the firearms and shooting to the detriment of one's "outfit"... no matter its look. And in today's economy, demanding more in the way of outfits is very likely to become counter-productive.

 

I, for one, find it humorous that folks that shoot thoroughly modern designed firearms using thoroughly modern designed leather gear, should take it upon themselves to criticize others in their interpretation of late 19th century clothing. But, myself excluded, I think most folks are dressin' FAR better than they did 20 years ago!

 

I'd also ask that you (in the collective), refrain from disparaging the opinions of others, at least here... what you do in private is your own business.

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There is still confusion about what cowboys wore. The cowboys thought themselves above the minors (and their jeans) and dressed in more "dress clothes" especially when in public.

 

So when "levi's" came out, they thought they were beneath a real cowboy. After all, cowboys rode horses, they didn't dig in the ground!! But that gradually changed as the style of the "jeans" changed and cowboys understood the functionality of the new pants. By the late 1880s the jeans were quite common for cowboys and almost exclusive into the 1890's and turn of the century. And yes, there were a lot of cowboys still active at the beginning of the 20th century. Of course, they still preferred more dress pants when they got dressed up. But you would even seen the work clothes in town.

 

And the clothing did vary quite a bit according to the location - cold versus hot, etc.

 

Of course, what a lot of us wear would be ridiculed by the cowboys of old because they would not generally wear anything loose. For some reason, much of our replica pants are too "
floppy" to be safe in their environment. I guess because the makers were thinking of suits made at some time.

 

So there really isn't anything wrong with jeans in my book, although I often prefer a tailored cotton or even wool pant.

 

(And it still helps to cut off the belt loops on the jeans as they didn't have those until much later in the period. And you can get rid of one pocket while you are at it.)

http://www.hamiltondrygoods.com/clothing/old-73s-mens-pants/

 

So this is another case of not being so much historical, but what our vision of the cowboy was.

 

When it is hot, I too have to go with the minimum - if I want to finish the day. Sometimes in the summer that is quite an effort in much of the country!

 

But it is great if we can keep encouraging folks to dress the part as much as they can, when they can.

 

 

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Well heck, just a note to say that in the course of COWBOYS and research for GUN STORIES, I have probably spent as much time in museum stacks as anyone, and one thing I've noticed is that people in the semi-mythical "Old West" didn't necessarily dress the way we think people in the Old West dressed. "Jeans" were as common as dirt. Some pants...probably trickled in from or copied from Europe, but who knows...had belt loops and were worn with or without belts. Boots were worn inside and outside of pants. Lace-up boots and brogans were equally common. Hats range all over the place, probably encompassing every style in Cap'n George Baylor's collection.

 

Grizz, I'd say you look cowboy just fine...I believer you could "pass" even in Wyoming! Brother King, I miss you, brother!

 

Wolf Bane

SASS13557

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And don't wear suspenders and a belt with your pants. No real reason, and don't take the statement as a point of fact that should be held to other shooters. however...

 

How can you trust a man who wears both a belt and suspenders? The man can't even trust his own pants.

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Well heck, just a note to say that in the course of COWBOYS and research for GUN STORIES, I have probably spent as much time in museum stacks as anyone, and one thing I've noticed is that people in the semi-mythical "Old West" didn't necessarily dress the way we think people in the Old West dressed. "Jeans" were as common as dirt. Some pants...probably trickled in from or copied from Europe, but who knows...had belt loops and were worn with or without belts. Boots were worn inside and outside of pants. Lace-up boots and brogans were equally common. Hats range all over the place, probably encompassing every style in Cap'n George Baylor's collection.

 

Grizz, I'd say you look cowboy just fine...I believer you could "pass" even in Wyoming! Brother King, I miss you, brother!

 

Wolf Bane

SASS13557

 

I think you totally missed Tex's point. Folks are not wearing what Tex thinks they should wear, not what the rules say or what folks actually wore back in the day. Sorry for the scarism.

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No problem with Wranglers at a match - they're legal. Hamilton Dry Goods sells reproduction "Levi' type jeans (no Levi brand for me - do my best not to patronize anti-gun companies - plus they don't support our sport anyway). I wear the Hamilton versions and like 'em alot. They ride higher than the 'modern' 501's and 'look' more period. I like that.

 

http://www.hamiltondrygoods.com/clothing/old-73s-mens-pants/

 

The webpage may say 'out of stock', but call them - sometimes they have some in stock ;)

 

and I'm even wearing suspenders under that vest (keeps the pants up happily :D )

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GG ~ :FlagAm:

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No problem with Wranglers at a match - they're legal. Hamilton Dry Goods sells reproduction "Levi' type jeans (no Levi brand for me - do my best not to patronize anti-gun companies - plus they don't support our sport anyway). I wear the Hamilton versions and like 'em alot. They ride higher than the 'modern' 501's and 'look' more period. I like that.

 

http://www.hamiltondrygoods.com/clothing/old-73s-mens-pants/

 

The webpage may say 'out of stock', but call them - sometimes they have some in stock ;)

 

and I'm even wearing suspenders under that vest (keeps the pants up happily :D )

 

GG ~ :FlagAm:

 

 

+1 for the Hamilton Dry Goods Levi Jean. They get them in both Blue Denim and a tan, kind of like a Dickies.

 

Buy the jean a size or two big as they are not pre-shrunk. Shrink 'em to fit in the tub like we used to 'back in the day.'

 

Love my pair, and they are good folks who support the sport!

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+2 for the Hamilton's Old 73s. Great pants from a fine company! Quality products at reasonable cost. :) I like them because they have a lower waist line and can be worn without suspenders. (I hate suspenders! :D )

 

The Old 73s are copied from original Levis and are Old West period correct. That said, they are NOTHING like Wrangler (modern) jeans. About the only thing they have in common with Wranglers/Levis is they are both pants! :)

 

I don't get a lot of heartburn over what folks wear, but In looking at the language in the Shooter's Handbook, where does it say that modern jeans are "legal?" Other than BW, I can't find jeans even mentioned as appropriate shooter wear. :unsure: If you want to wear jeans, dress BW!

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+2 for the Hamilton's Old 73s. Great pants from a fine company! Quality products at reasonable cost. :) I like them because they have a lower waist line and can be worn without suspenders. (I hate suspenders! :D )

 

The Old 73s are copied from original Levis and are Old West period correct. That said, they are NOTHING like Wrangler (modern) jeans. About the only thing they have in common with Wranglers/Levis is they are both pants! :)

 

I don't get a lot of heartburn over what folks wear, but In looking at the language in the Shooter's Handbook, where does it say that modern jeans are "legal?" Other than BW, I can't find jeans even mentioned as appropriate shooter wear. :unsure: If you want to wear jeans, dress BW!

Are you seriously looking for a list of what clothing is appropriate?????

 

Seriously?

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With all due respect my Grizzly cousin, the hand book makes no specific mention of other type of pants either. As has been documented by others in this thread, jeans were in the period, and in movies and tv.

 

Now I would agree that designer jeans with all sorts of labels and bedazlements are over the top, but your basic jeans are fine in my book.

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