Frederick Jackson Turner Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Flying with firearms, out of LAX. My rifle case deliberately looks as much like a guitar case as possible, but some folks figured it out, and there have been some really hostile comments, culminating with, "I hope you get murdered with your own guns, and then, they are destroyed." I feel like we're losing the Public Relations fight, out there. Sigh. FJT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash Caliber Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Duhhh ...out of LAX?...of course.....Out of DFW...comment might be.....Deer Hunter?...look at a county by county election map and you'll get the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 While you are fighting the anti's out there, my Pastor at church (a Southern Baptist Church) encourages alot of us licensed carry holders to carry our pistols with us, even to church. Of course, some of us are very accommodating. Maybe you oughta remind those at the airport that the pilot and crew are more likely to perish in a plane crash than you are of being shot, especially with your own guns. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Flying with firearms, out of LAX. My rifle case deliberately looks as much like a guitar case as possible, but some folks figured it out, and there have been some really hostile comments, culminating with, "I hope you get murdered with your own guns, and then, they are destroyed." I feel like we're losing the Public Relations fight, out there. Sigh. FJT (Sarcasm on) But they're oh so tollerant. (Sarcasm off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 That's why God invented the response: FU My other favorite response: Who made you queen of the sheeple fairies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 This is probably best left unsaid......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sabre Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 "Well, bless yer heart." Said with appropriate inflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Should have replied, "Thanks for your input. I'd love to stand around and chat, but I gotta go finish the maintenence on the right engine. Ya'll have a good flight!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Much nicer than what I would say, but I'm laconic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Brasse, SASS #3562 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Not to worry, karma will come back to them. Figure there is a good chance (and getting better all the time) that at some point they will really be wishing they had a gun & knew how to use it. Oh, wait, I forgot, they probably live in a "gun free zone" & therefore will never have any worries, always feeling secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bo bean 61280 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 i'm sorry you had to encounter such an ugly person,. and manatee no wander i like you so much. you are nicer than i am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Much nice than what I would say, but I'm laconic. and I'm Lexdystic ! And I would have probably put my right hand down in my front pocket and said, 'here, I got something for you'.....and pull out my hand with all my fingers folded except the 'Tall Boy'. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustler, SASS #33316 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I fly a lot and always wear some type of firearms related shirt or cap and always read my Chronicle and other firearms related magazines in the airport/plane - just to piss them all off... The TSA is fun to torment... I have had to opportunity to meet the head of home land security at the Chicago airport :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Wind-Walker #36748 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Why Mr. turner..........perhaps one might consider relocating to Southern Utah where these issues become non-issues.......??? Just a thought..................best - Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugly, SASS #18106 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Whenever I have flown with my guns, the TSA agents were all totally cool and just wanted to see the type of weapons I had. The baggage handlers on the other hand are another story; they thought they were competing in the Scottish games and used my long gun cases to toss around instead of that long pole. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Sounds exactly like something my EX mother-in-law would say. And feel good about it... Gotta agree with Manatee on this one. My tolerance for intolerance and hatred ran out sometime ago. Oh, but wait, that response might hurt someone's feelings and we sure wouldn't want that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Half-a-Hand Henri Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Oh, the stories we could tell...I think I am officially on the no-fly list!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Graham, # 26112 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I had a simpering nitwit refuse to check me in once. "Help! She has GUNS! I won't DO guns! Somebody come over here and check her in! And he swished away into the back room and left me standing there. I'm just glad they don't make us show clear at check in anymore. Had more than one little old lady damn near faint when I racked the long guns. There is just no way to do that without being noticed............. Overall, generally decent getting through the airport. Never once, no matter what state I'm coming from or going to, with a carry gun included in the case or just cowboy guns have I ever been asked for my permit. Not once. I've always found that to be rather odd.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Mike #8595 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 yes we are losing the public battle every time I have flown with guns, even several times to Alaska even the airline folks helping me check in, would make comments not becoming their job status just standing in line, women mostly, "what is in the case" firarms ma am "gasp ---- what do you need those for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I do shooting competitions called cowboy action shooting ma am my whole family does. gasp -------again like I did something wrong then they just ignore me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big-un Bruce Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Cowboys should fly out of John Wayne airport..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crooked jake,4371 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Cowboys should fly out of John Wayne airport..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulp, SASS#28319 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 "Maybe you oughta remind those at the airport that the pilot and crew are more likely to perish in a plane crash than you are of being shot, especially with your own guns." Widder, in this day and age, it's probably not a good idea to mention plane crashes while checking in for a flight. Could get you more attention than actually wanted. Personally, I will never fly again, after what TSA did to my father about 10 years ago. I have the right to NOT be treated like a criminal, even if exercising that right means I have to drive or walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshadow, SASS #70099 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 After decades of putting up with ever worsening airline service plus ever increasing airport BS I have at last reached the stage where I do not need either. Southern Texas has all the facilities I need, and none of the cr*p I am not prepared to tolerate. Nobody looks twice at my rifle cases, and my Subaru Outback takes me anywhere I want to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaky Molasses, SASS 20549 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Flying with guns, I have found that the airline personnel and TSA people have usually been friendly or professional. I have not refused to fly, as Pulp does, but I carry that metal Bill of Rights through the metal detectors. Iffen you are not familiar with it, go to http://securityedition.com/ It sets off the detectors, and I have to turn it over to them, usually with a smart-assed remark such as "Oh, I guess you guys don't know about the Bill of Rights, why don't you read it?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Flying with firearms, out of LAX. My rifle case deliberately looks as much like a guitar case as possible, but some folks figured it out, and there have been some really hostile comments, culminating with, "I hope you get murdered with your own guns, and then, they are destroyed." I feel like we're losing the Public Relations fight, out there. Sigh. FJT FJT, Sometime... over a cool adult beverage I'll tell you about the last time I flew out of LAX... off to New Zealand to attend a family reunion and a CAS match there... no guns, but damn the uproar over a pair of E. Garcia spurs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary Lawman, SASS 73160 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 We are lucky in Canada to have one airline, WestJet, who seem (almost) gun friendly. Of course I have heard that the CEO is a gun owner. In any case my experiences have been really pleasant with them and they smooth the way through security for your guns. I will fly with them every time over our national carrier. Legendary Lawman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 The response I used when last berated for owning and flying with guns was, "Well, aren't you special? You should attempt aeronautical intercourse with a gyrating pastry!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Flying with firearms, out of LAX. My rifle case deliberately looks as much like a guitar case as possible, but some folks figured it out, and there have been some really hostile comments, culminating with, "I hope you get murdered with your own guns, and then, they are destroyed." I feel like we're losing the Public Relations fight, out there. Sigh. FJT Should have smiled and said as cheerfully as possible "Aren't you just a nasty, bitter person" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I had a simpering nitwit refuse to check me in once. "Help! She has GUNS! I won't DO guns! Somebody come over here and check her in! And he swished away into the back room and left me standing there. I'm just glad they don't make us show clear at check in anymore. Had more than one little old lady damn near faint when I racked the long guns. There is just no way to do that without being noticed............. Overall, generally decent getting through the airport. Never once, no matter what state I'm coming from or going to, with a carry gun included in the case or just cowboy guns have I ever been asked for my permit. Not once. I've always found that to be rather odd.......... I would have gotten his name and then filed a complaint at the corporate level making it a point to mention that I would tell every shooter I know and would post on ALL the internet shooting forums that airline XXXXX doesn't like gun owners and that they should find a different airline to fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creek Johnson Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I had a simpering nitwit refuse to check me in once. "Help! She has GUNS! I won't DO guns! Somebody come over here and check her in! And he swished away into the back room and left me standing there. I'm just glad they don't make us show clear at check in anymore. Had more than one little old lady damn near faint when I racked the long guns. There is just no way to do that without being noticed............. Overall, generally decent getting through the airport. Never once, no matter what state I'm coming from or going to, with a carry gun included in the case or just cowboy guns have I ever been asked for my permit. Not once. I've always found that to be rather odd.......... I know how that can be. I was flying my guns home prior to a deployment and at the time, i had quite a few of those "scary assault rifles". damn near had everyone on the floor like I was robbin the place every time i pulled one out and cleared it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Too bad that happened - hopefully your firearms didn't get damaged - however, isn't there a TSA office you can report that too? They are there to do a job, not lecture one on firearms ownership or threatening messages. GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Matt McCord, SASS #24683 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 "Maybe you oughta remind those at the airport that the pilot and crew are more likely to perish in a plane crash than you are of being shot, especially with your own guns." Widder, in this day and age, it's probably not a good idea to mention plane crashes while checking in for a flight. Could get you more attention than actually wanted. Personally, I will never fly again, after what TSA did to my father about 10 years ago. I have the right to NOT be treated like a criminal, even if exercising that right means I have to drive or walk. What he said! And my career has been made building airplanes. But I absolutely refuse to ever get on one again until they stop all this crap. And FJT, I probably would have said something back just as ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Drover Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Mr. Turner, The good news is you are probably headed to an area of the country that enjoys your company and your talents. I know I should not mention "Guns of August" on this forum, because it isn't the forum for mentioning events upcoming within the next 10 days or so in Middletown, OH. So, I won't. But, I am sure I still have the right to tell you, we will be happy for you to bring your guns and shoot them all you want, and as fast as you want!!! I hope you will be entertaining us with your song and guitar strumming this year!!! Welcome to the Mid-West!....uh? Mid-East?.....Mid-East-West in the US?.....uh? WELCOME! KCD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I had an encounter like this awhile back. this anti-gun person insisted that the 2A was not valid anymore and should be removed from the BOR. My reply was the BOR are God given. but, if you want to eliminate one lets start the first. So, from this point on you can just Shut the F up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashknife Cowboy Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I had a similar encounter flying out of Phx to Seattle once and all I said was, "You can thank me later for your freedom of speech." I got a bewildered look and the lady at the counter looked away as she smiled in approval. We are all ambassadors of the shooting sports and the Constitution. I am retired LE and have flown quite a bit with a firearm, choose your airlines wisely, some are more friendly than others. Be cautious of ignorance in large numbers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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