French Sub

[Subdeacon Joe]

http://www.dieselpunks.org/profiles/blogs/surcouf-1

 

The French submarine Surcouf, launched in 1929, was 361 feet long, and
at 3,304 tons was, at that time, the world's largest pre WW2 submarine.
Two Sulze diesel engines and two electric motors were used for her
propulsion, she could cover 10,000 miles at 10 knots, submerged speed
was 8.5 knots, but on the surface she was capable of reaching 18 knots.

This
huge submarine carried twin 8 inch guns in a single turret, quite a
formidible armament for a submarine, and in a hangar aft of her conning
tower was an observation aircraft, a Marcel Berson-411, capable of a
speed of 100 knots with a range of 400 kilometres. A cargo of torpedoes,
14 by 500mm, and another 8 by 400mm added to her fighting abilities. A
16 foot motor boat was also on board.

[Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172]

And I thought this was going to be about a sammish.

[Calico Mary]

me too, and now I'm hungry.....

[Badlands Bob #61228]

Something about a French sub made in 1929 just does not sound safe.

[Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172]

I have to agree with that, Bob.

[Utah Bob #35998]

The Japanese also had some huge subs at the start of the war. The US lagged far behind but eventually caught up.

We seem to do that a lot.

[Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172]

The Japanese also had some huge subs at the start of the war. The US lagged far behind but eventually caught up.

We seem to do that a lot.

Not if you watch the Military channel, Bob.

 

They are showcasing all sorts of WonderWeapons that will win the war. Even the long running wars in the middle east.

 

Of course there is not a lot of demand for submarines in Afghanistan, or not that I am aware of.

[Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L]

The Japanese also had some huge subs at the start of the war. The US lagged far behind but eventually caught up.

We seem to do that a lot.

 

Maybe in the past - these days it seems the US is the forefront of combat proven stuff from ground attack to aviation...of course, maintaining that forefront gets harder and harder as some nations are hacking into our military databases or being given defense technologies directly.

 

GG ~

[Utah Bob #35998]

Maybe in the past - these days it seems the US is the forefront of combat proven stuff from ground attack to aviation...of course, maintaining that forefront gets harder and harder as some nations are hacking into our military databases or being given defense technologies directly.

 

GG ~

That's because we have been engaged in global conflicts for many years. Between wars the govt gets cheap and complacent. I won't get into the military draw down after Vietnam, and during the Clinton era...that's a whole book. There's a very true saying that Generals are always well prepared to fight the last war.

But alas, I don't see a point in the forseeable future where we'll be between conflicts.

[Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L]

That's because we have been engaged in global conflicts for many years. Between wars the govt gets cheap and complacent. I won't get into the military draw down after Vietnam, and during the Clinton era...that's a whole book. There's a very true saying that Generals are always well prepared to fight the last war.

But alas, I don't see a point in the forseeable future where we'll be between conflicts.

 

Just stating what the current situation is....not what was or what will be....

 

GG ~

[Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172]

Maybe this is the new normal for warfare.

[Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795]

Our V-boats were getting close to that size. Set up as mine layers, they also had 6" guns as armament. Nautilus, Argonaut, Narwhal participated in WW II. Nautilus got a shot at one of the Japanese carriers during Midway, the destroyer that stayed behind to keep her under was the one McClusky followed to carriers later. Nautilus and Narwhal supported Marine Raiders several times. Argonaut was sunk during the Guadacanal campaign after attacking a convoy. There were a couple others, but their names escape me at the moment

[Utah Bob #35998]

Rising Sun Subs

[G #1840]

Knowing how hard it is to keep a surface boat from leaking, I wonder how you build a hatch big enough for a folded airplane and be waterproof at 5 atm.

[Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172]

Shortly after WW II, I saw a Japanese miniature sub . IIRC it had been captured early in the war, and after the engineers going over it, they sent in on tour around the country. Come to thunk on it, it was around that time that search lights became very popular with advertisers. Every time there was a Grand Opening or a Sale going on, the sky lit up like an air raid on Britain.

[Utah Bob #35998]

Shortly after WW II, I saw a Japanese miniature sub . IIRC it had been captured early in the war, and after the engineers going over it, they sent in on tour around the country. Come to thunk on it, it was around that time that search lights became very popular with advertisers. Every time there was a Grand Opening or a Sale going on, the sky lit up like an air raid on Britain.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-fornv/japan/japtp-ss/mdg-a-2.htm

[Dirtwater Doc 17941]

The Nimitz Museum in Fredericksburg TX has a WW2 Japanese miniature sub on display.

 

DD

[Doc Flimshaw Sass# 73310]

Did you notice that the website said it could go 100 knots...that I'd like to see.

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

Something about a French sub made in 1929 just does not sound safe.

It might nave been a great sub.

 

Ask the Germans. It belonged to them less than ten years later.

[Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172]

When I first ready this thread, why did the word Chauchat come to mind?

[Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795]

That thing was a train wreck from the get go,BMC

 

They'd have been better off with the '95 Tater digger I think

[Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674]

It might nave been a great sub.

 

Ask the Germans. It belonged to them less than ten years later.

From what the article says it looks like it went Free French. Douglas Reeman wrote a novel about a fictitious sister ship: Strike From From The Sea, http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2079534.Strike_From_The_Sea

[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967]

If you have a Nook, you might want to try "The Last Eagle" for a whopping 99 cents.

 

The Last Eagle

 

Good yarn, based on the story of the Orzeł incident.

 

Also available for the Kindle, same whopping price.

[Subdeacon Joe]

Did you notice that the website said it could go 100 knots...that I'd like to see.

Read this part again, Doc: and in a hangar aft of her conning

tower was an observation aircraft, a Marcel Berson-411, capable of a

speed of 100 knots with a range of 400 kilometres.

[Doc Flimshaw Sass# 73310]

Oops, read too fast again...thought it was a misprint for 10 kts....doc

[Utah Bob #35998]

When I first ready this thread, why did the word Chauchat come to mind?

That would be a thread titled "French junk".

[Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172]

Ah yes, Bob. But they do make some great bread and mustard.

[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967]

Ah yes, Bob. But they do make some great bread and mustard.

 

Just what'cha need for a snail sammich....

[Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172]

Hardpan, I ain't had breakfast yet.