Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Dang that virtual M1 Garand is purdy. Been fiddling with ammunition to feed it. Wish I had one......... Thinking of putting in the adjustable gas cylinder plug. If I had one........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama Red Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 M1 thumb! OW! OW! OW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 Weeeeeellllll, it is actually an virtual M1 Thumb from a Virtual M1 Garand. But it is sure purdy. The virtual M1, not the thumb. Last time I got an M1 thumb was from Uncle Sammy's playground in Ft. Riley, Kansas. It were in 1958. It has healed some since. I got some ammunition I loaded with 150 grain bullets and 47 grains of IMR 4895. Wondering if it is too hot for a VIRTUAL M1, and maybe I should put in the adjustble gas cylinder plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 If ya install that virtual plug, make sure it is screwed down tight. We wuz shootin' our Gayrands one day and it suddenly stopped cycling. It turns out the plug came loose and the previous shot launched it about 50 yards downrange. It's a wonder we found it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 They ain't cheap, Charlie. I have to read the virtual instuructions. I don't even know how to install the virtual thangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 A bit of trivia... we all pronounce it Ga-RAND, but it's inventor, John Garand, pronounced his name to rhyme with "errand." Somehow doesn't sound quite right calling it a "G-errand..." although some do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 What ever you pronounce his name, he made one fine VIRTUAL rifle. IMNSHO. I have to say innovation is high in his creation. There has been some talk on other threads about other military configurations, i.e. black rifles, about the best sling mounting configuration. One point, two point etc. Well, the M1 Gurrrrrand has the thumb carry. Painful at times but effective. It can free your hands for other duties. I might fill your mouth with loud screams but with all the firing going on, nobody is going to notice much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 In most cases, the M-1 thumb was only issued "one each" per soldier. Only the really stupid ever got a second one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Gee... wish I had one o' them virtual Garands. It'd be nice to keep my virtual M1 Carbine company in the safe, if I had one. If I had one, the Garand would be a Springfield, and if I had one, the Carbine would be a Saginaw... Now for something REALLY different, Google "Garand T31 Bullpup!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I remember when we were filming an episode for the History Channel "Warrior" series, Terry was left handed. He got his fingers jammed. So for the scene, they used my hand for the loading scene. They sure aren't made for left handers. MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I have no idea what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 Hardpan, that ain't no Garande. It has a high capacity magazine. Garandes have a en bloc CLIP. Them little M16s don't love yer thumb, Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 the HAWKINS don't bire your thunb it be a mite slow to load though CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 Thas why I have a Enfield 2 band. It runs full auto and semi by how many mini s you put in it. Running full auto will also cause a toxic cloud to envelop the target area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugs Bonney SASS # 10171 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 My ten year left handed relationship with the M-1 never resulted in M-1 finger. I hooked my left thumb over the op rod handle, depressed the follower with the middle finger and rode the bolt half way home with my thumb and released. That included ten years of competition in high power form local clubs up to and including Camp Perry. Ya just gotta think these things through. Anyone know where I can get a virtual Lewis Gun? Bugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 From Lewis? Virgil Lewis that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 My ten year left handed relationship with the M-1 never resulted in M-1 finger. I hooked my left thumb over the op rod handle, depressed the follower with the middle finger and rode the bolt half way home with my thumb and released. That included ten years of competition in high power form local clubs up to and including Camp Perry. Ya just gotta think these things through. Anyone know where I can get a virtual Lewis Gun? Bugs Not a Lewis, but have my MP40 on consignment? Spits em out faster then a Lewis. MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uno Mas SASS #80082 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Got shown the proper way of loading a Garand by a Marine who earned his M1-Thumb during a rather strenuous argument with some Japanese tourists. It's something you only do once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugs Bonney SASS # 10171 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Not a Lewis, but have my MP40 on consignment? Spits em out faster then a Lewis. MT Ain't lookin fer fast, I'm lookin fer style. The Lewis gun has more style than any other light machinegun IMNSHO. Tom Seleck had one in High Road to China. Bugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapper Dynamite Dick Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 It was the greatest battle rifle ever designed by a man born a Canadian and built by Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hill Beachy, SASS #5327 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 A good friend of mine reports that this device http://www.m1thumbsaver.com/ works wonders in preventing the dreaded M-1 Thumb Syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugs Bonney SASS # 10171 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 A good friend of mine reports that this device http://www.m1thumbsaver.com/ works wonders in preventing the dreaded M-1 Thumb Syndrome. Howdy Hill, great to hear from you, it's been a long, long time. Bugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 Well, last night I took out the adjustable gas plug for my Virtual M1. Pretty slick. May be the impetus to get me out to the range to test fire it. I have five clips that are loaded a little hot so I will test fire them. Then drop the load down and replace the original gas plug. At least that is my plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Well, last night I took out the adjustable gas plug for my Virtual M1. Pretty slick. May be the impetus to get me out to the range to test fire it. I have five clips that are loaded a little hot so I will test fire them. Then drop the load down and replace the original gas plug. At least that is my plan. Remember, to hot loads, and you will bend the operating rod. Check your reloading manual, you will find there are 2 different loads for 30-06, one for the Garand, and the other for everything else. You may also know that CCI makes 2 different type primers, one for the Garand. Reason behind that. Same as there are 2 different primers made for the ARs, one for 5.56 and another for the .223. Garands were not made for modern hot loads. The weakest point on a Garand is the operating rod. MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I started "playing" with the M-1 in high school ROTC in 1957 and have been around them almost non-stop ever since. I have NEVER had an M-1 thumb...skill or luck or just plain scared of the damn thing, I can't say...but there's still time. BTW, I had a chance to checkout a friend's "new" M-1 recently and did an impromptu Queen Anne's Salute. When I flipped the rifle off of my shoulder, caught it, and went down on my knee to finish the routine I thought he was going to wet himself. I asked him if I could try it and he agreed. I didn't do it perfectly, but I'm still pretty good. (Well, maybe not so pretty, but still good.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I started "playing" with the M-1 in high school ROTC in 1957 and have been around them almost non-stop ever since. I have NEVER had an M-1 thumb...skill or luck or just plain scared of the damn thing, I can't say...but there's still time. BTW, I had a chance to checkout a friend's "new" M-1 recently and did an impromptu Queen Anne's Salute. When I flipped the rifle off of my shoulder, caught it, and went down on my knee to finish the routine I thought he was going to wet himself. I asked him if I could try it and he agreed. I didn't do it perfectly, but I'm still pretty good. (Well, maybe not so pretty, but still good.) No videos, no pics? You have to do it again, but in front of a camera. Luv to see it. MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 I am using the mil primers in my reloads, Marshal. The load I have is not all that hot. But I would prefer to err on the side of caution. I am using IMR 4895 powder. I am still looking for a good formula for the M1 reloads. I understand that the Hornady reload manual has a section on it. I will have to find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 No videos, no pics? You have to do it again, but in front of a camera. Luv to see it. MT Come on out and bring your camera. I'll even buy lunch. I'll even try to round up the Grumpys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 Forty Rod is going to make a Movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I already did a movie. Cops got me on video when I wasn't lookin'.....but they'll never take me alive. Don't worry, Charlie, I won't let 'em take you alive, neither. (Hey, what are friends for? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 I just knew I could count on you, Forty Rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 BMC whatsyagonna do with that M1 carbine ? WHERE ya gonna find AMMO ? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Just lust, I guess. So far my research has found: 1, Although available, they are not inexpensive rifles. 2. Brass for reloading is almost non existent, 3. Bullets are also rare. 4. Uncertainity about magazine size and availability of reliable mags. 5. You can purchase a newly manufactured copy for a slightly higher price than original reworks. You get a whole bunch of different parts in the real McCoy. 6. Anything over 100 yards, a rock and sling might be better. 7. Accuracy is ok, but nothing to brag about, 8. Not a lot of knockdown power, but might take care of a coyote or two. 9. Replacement parts might be an issue. Plus side: 1. They look cool 2. Light weight. 3. Easy takedown. 4. Semi auto with good reliability and feed. 5. A piece of history. Looks like more negative than positive. Maybe I overlooked something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubborn Dutchman, SASS # 61363 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Badger, I sent you a PM. Dutchman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Thank you sir. I received it and replied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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