Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Heyya pards...my nephew sent me this message yesterday: Hey there Uncle Gatlin!! This is your nephew shooter Mcgavin : ) Happy Easter!! .. .. Just got me a Colt AR15 6940le and was wondering if you could maybe point me in the right direction as far as what kind of attachments are good. its got the 16 inch barrel so I thought a scope would be in order but then again i kinda like the holographic sights too. Also I was thinking about getting a fore grip. Not really sure what is good yet. LOL plus its hard to find any dang 5.56 ammo for a descent price, any suggetions? Thanks Uncle P.J Please post any thing you can help with - I'd like to send him this link so he can learn about and enjoy his new rifle. Thanks... GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Harris #154 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 As for a sight, a EOTech Holographic sight is about as good as you can get. Now I don't have one on my LMT but Sweet Nell has one on her Armalite and lets me use it once in a while. BH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I have this on mine, in green reticle http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=TA31F Bought it here http://www.red-dot-scopes.com/trijicon-acog-red-dot-scope-advanced-combat-optical-gunsight-4x32-ta31f.html ACOGS have NO battery or ele. to fail. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Thanks guys - anymore info on applicable accessories like the fore grip, or heat shield panels, stocks, trigger set-up would be great too. I am sending him this link so maybe he can chime in as a 'guest' to me more specific to his inquiry. Your help - as always - is appreciated. GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Business Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Collapsible stocks are great. And a brass catcher, he wants to save his brass for reloading. He can also use .223 if he comes across some, it seems to less rare than 5.56, at least in my neck of the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Law Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Oversized mag release and an oversized bolt release are handy. I also put a drop in 1 piece Timney trigger in my duty rifle. The trigger is much much better, very reliable, and it is super easy to maintain. Also have him check out several suppliers. Magpul Noveske GG&G LaRue Tactical JP Enterprise The AR is a shooter's Barbie Doll and has lots and lots of options to choose from. JEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Tell'm to start read'n. http://www.m4carbine.net/forum.php http://www.ar15.com/forums/b/3_.html Have him read those forums BEFORE he buys anydangthing. Ammo source and good folks to deal with. http://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx?groupid=21&name=.223%2f5.56x45 I like the ACOG I have, because I'm 'on target' from inside the house, out to 800yds with NO sight adjustments. Building an AR is very hard to do at this time. Another good outfit to deal with. http://www.primaryarms.com/ LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama Red Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Gunner, I've got a collapsible stock and a forward vertical handgrip on mine. For some reason I had a hard time finding a comfortable grip on the factory forearm. The vertical grip solves that (for me) very nicely. I also installed a one point sling for ease of carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Verticle foregrips just get in the way imho. A good optical sight like the Acog are a great thing. Optics Planet has some good deals. Good quality drop in trigger. Look around for a comfortable stock. Avoid the tendency to hang everything but the kitchen sink on it. Magpul Yankee Hill Bravo Company And like LG said..Read up. Depends on how deep his pockets are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus (Doc) Arroyo #40370 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I am not a big fan of red-dot sights...but then again I am color blind. I do find that a good scope really helps at coyote range, so I mounted a Leopold in a Wilson Mount. The scope comes on aand off without affecting zero. A set of Yankee Hill flip up sights for less than coyote range. And thats it. KISS is the best military acronym. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 AR's are Barbie dolls for boys. There are more accessories available than you can possibly hang. Problem is by the time you have your vert foregrip, flashlight, red laser, green laser (for day use), scope, red dot, back up open sites, 1 2 and 3 point sling mounts, cigarette lighter, bottle opening and toilet paper roll the dang thing weighs a ton. Kinda like seeing the soccer mom in town driving a $100K SUV. There is no real need for it, the SUV will never leave the paved roads of the city but the soccer mom thinks she needs it...same thing with most of the tactical gear you see mounted on the AR's at the range. Then again, the zombie apocalypse can happen at any moment. Right now my AR is sporting Magpul stocks, and a magpul rear sight. I have a scope I put on it when I want a little more precision (quick detach mount). I am toying with the idea of a flashlight, but that is about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Thanks again fellas! - you are pullin' through Knew y'all would! GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I also have a Colt 6940, I would suggest shooting for a while then decide on options. Spend money on training, mags and ammo first.I did not like the factory trigger and put in a Geissele Super Semi-Automatic (SSA). I have a Magpul STR stock, a flashlight and a two point sling. I dislike the single and three point slings. I have a Aimpoint T1 micro which I love but would get more accuracy with a scope. Sling, flashlight, optics in that order of importance, every thing else is just added weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uno Mas SASS #80082 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Mags, ammo, training. Lots. Toys can come after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Hey guys! Thank you all for the suggestions and input! AR's are like men Barbie dolls lol.. I definitely like the EOtech holographic sight and they don't seem as pricey as the ACOG. I might wait a while to buy a sight for this AR until I can effectively shoot good groups using the iron sights from at least 250-300 yrds. I'm not sure what range those iron sights become inadequate. So far the only things I have bought are 3 magpul 30 rnd mags and about 700 rnds of various .223 and 5.56 bullets. I was thinking of at least checking out the 20$ fore grip to see if its a good fit for me since its pretty cheap and getting later either an ACOG or EOTech sight. I would like a sight I could use for both close and long range scenarios. I'm not sure if the ACOG is designed more for long range shooting. I got the rifle at walmart ( lol ) for 1500 $ and figured if obama tries to ban production of them I would never get one so I hopped on it while I had a chance. I primarily want the gun for family protection for things like natural disaster or economical breakdown where civilians become hostile. The trigger seems to be a significant upgrade from the sounds of it so I think that's on my list of upgrades. Anyone have any experience with silencers on an AR? I think legally in AZ we can own one and I might be able to get one for like 600$. Thanks again for all your help and comments wish I could go to the range with guys someday! Thanks uncle P.J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 Hey guys! Thank you all for the suggestions and input! AR's are like men Barbie dolls lol.. I definitely like the EOtech holographic sight and they don't seem as pricey as the ACOG. I might wait a while to buy a sight for this AR until I can effectively shoot good groups using the iron sights from at least 250-300 yrds. I'm not sure what range those iron sights become inadequate. So far the only things I have bought are 3 magpul 30 rnd mags and about 700 rnds of various .223 and 5.56 bullets. I was thinking of at least checking out the 20$ fore grip to see if its a good fit for me since its pretty cheap and getting later either an ACOG or EOTech sight. I would like a sight I could use for both close and long range scenarios. I'm not sure if the ACOG is designed more for long range shooting. I got the rifle at walmart ( lol ) for 1500 $ and figured if obama tries to ban production of them I would never get one so I hopped on it while I had a chance. I primarily want the gun for family protection for things like natural disaster or economical breakdown where civilians become hostile. The trigger seems to be a significant upgrade from the sounds of it so I think that's on my list of upgrades. Anyone have any experience with silencers on an AR? I think legally in AZ we can own one and I might be able to get one for like 600$. Thanks again for all your help and comments wish I could go to the range with guys someday! Thanks uncle P.J Good group of fellas here my good nephew. Maybe...just maybe you can check out some cowboy action shooting in AZ too. Now...you best be working' on that golf game too....Love ya....say ' hi' to the family. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORNERY OAF Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Mags, ammo, training. Lots. Toys can come after. Cant say it better, shoot it a lot, learn what it can do.......basic rifle skills will take him miles further than all the tacticool gunshow crap he can strap on it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Oh Ill be ready with my golf game this year! ; ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Read up on the E O tech issues, and you'll see why the ACOG is a better choice. My sil's EO just went TU today, and he uses in his work(LEO). LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 Read up on the E O tech issues, and you'll see why the ACOG is a better choice. My sil's EO just went TU today, and he uses in his work(LEO). LG The EOTech is a very good product though. Its a favorite with the MSP here. Of course the L3 factory is right down the street from me. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Hey guys! Thank you all for the suggestions and input! AR's are like men Barbie dolls lol.. I definitely like the EOtech holographic sight and they don't seem as pricey as the ACOG. I might wait a while to buy a sight for this AR until I can effectively shoot good groups using the iron sights from at least 250-300 yrds. I'm not sure what range those iron sights become inadequate. So far the only things I have bought are 3 magpul 30 rnd mags and about 700 rnds of various .223 and 5.56 bullets. I was thinking of at least checking out the 20$ fore grip to see if its a good fit for me since its pretty cheap and getting later either an ACOG or EOTech sight. I would like a sight I could use for both close and long range scenarios. I'm not sure if the ACOG is designed more for long range shooting. I got the rifle at walmart ( lol ) for 1500 $ and figured if obama tries to ban production of them I would never get one so I hopped on it while I had a chance. I primarily want the gun for family protection for things like natural disaster or economical breakdown where civilians become hostile. The trigger seems to be a significant upgrade from the sounds of it so I think that's on my list of upgrades. Anyone have any experience with silencers on an AR? I think legally in AZ we can own one and I might be able to get one for like 600$. Thanks again for all your help and comments wish I could go to the range with guys someday! Thanks uncle P.JThere are a number of optical sights that take a 2 to 4x magnifier accessory to extend the range. The ACOG is one. Pricey but effective. A cheaper alternative is the Vortex Srikerfire, which comes with a 2x magnifier for about $200. The Acog trijicon uses no batteries. That's a plus. And it's VERY tough. At my age iron sights aren't much help over 150 yards or so. As a youngster it was different. A suppressor on an AR will work but takes some maintenance after a short time or it becomes ineffective. Plus the bolt is pretty noisy when it cycles. Best bet for a really quite supressed gun is a bolt action 22lr in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Law Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I have the ACOG TA-31DOC on my duty AR. It's built like a tank and works awesome. You have the 4x for anything out past 50yds and the Docktor Red Dot on top for CQB. I teach the Shoot House Tatics Course for my agency and I think it's the best of both worlds. The EOtech has one advantage and that's the ability to co-index your iron/flip up sights through the optic but I know a lot of LEOs who's EOtechs have taken a dump right in the middle of a class and if it will do it there you know it will do it when you need it most. To solve my issues with the possibility of my ACOG breaking I put a GG&G quick release on it. Quick on and off and really holds the zero well. JEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 I have the ACOG TA-31DOC on my duty AR. It's built like a tank and works awesome. You have the 4x for anything out past 50yds and the Docktor Red Dot on top for CQB. I teach the Shoot House Tatics Course for my agency and I think it's the best of both worlds. The EOtech has one advantage and that's the ability to co-index your iron/flip up sights through the optic but I know a lot of LEOs who's EOtechs have taken a dump right in the middle of a class and if it will do it there you know it will do it when you need it most. To solve my issues with the possibility of my ACOG breaking I put a GG&G quick release on it. Quick on and off and really holds the zero well. JEL Regarding the EOTech: Is that a malfunction with the unit or because of battery life? GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 GG, It's both....... JEL, X2 on that ACOG mount. It's what I have for mine. This was the 3rd EOTech to crap out on my sil's entry team on the SO, in the last 4 mos. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 GG, It's both....... JEL, X2 on that ACOG mount. It's what I have for mine. This was the 3rd EOTech to crap out on my sil's entry team on the SO, in the last 4 mos. LG Ouch! Was looking at some other sites as well in regards to the issue - SO MUCH INFO out there...but I do value my cowboy pards more than most ...anyway here is one forum that had folks discussing one type versus another type. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=448165 GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Seamus Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Tell him there is also nothing wrong with keepin' it simple. I have an S&W M&P 15OR. Put a Trijicon 1.25X4 Accupoint with a Triangle Post reticle. At 1.25 power it acts like a red dot. At 4 power it is still good for groundhogs out to 150 yds. No batteries to go dead either. My only other accessory is a single point mount. Best prices that I found for Trijicon was at http://www.bearbasin.com/trijicon-rifle-scopes.htm Free shipping too. Oh, I do have a net shell catcher for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 www.joeboboutfitters.com is another great place to get AR goodies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartwheel, SASS# 57342 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 to properly answer I need to know what his intentions are for the rife... self defense, competition, hunting etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Also, make sure you don't have an astigmatism, if your think'n about any RED dot sight. I do have one, and went with green on my ACOG. IMNSHO, green is a better color anyhow... LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 to properly answer I need to know what his intentions are for the rife... self defense, competition, hunting etc. In post# 15 he mentioned "I primarily want the gun for family protection for things like natural disaster or economical breakdown where civilians become hostile" Maybe he will chime in with any other interest in using his new Colt AR. GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartwheel, SASS# 57342 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Oops i missed that post for self defense my mistake For a defense rife a weapon light and sling are a must. I like El Zetta and sure fire lights, for a sling go with SOE gear or Savvy sniper. You may want to consider a quality 1-4 power scope like a Vortex PST these have the versatility for close engagements on true 1 power and the 4X for longer shots. Im not a fan of EoTech I have seen to many fail. If you want a red dot go with Aimpoint. If you decide to go with the ACOG remember they are fixed magnification and you may want an off-set set of sights for close range targets. Other things to consider would be a ready mag that way you can keep 2 mags on your rifle ready to go. The front grip is not a necessity but try them out... I like the Magpul AFG2 grip (this is angled instead of straight) A tip for 223 ballistics.... Zero your sights at 100yds this will allow for center mass hits out to 300 (at 20yds bullet impact will be about 3 inches high). If you continue to aim center chest the bullet will impact the knees at 400 and feet at 500. With out magnification a 500 yard shot is about max with irons unless you have very good vision. You may also consider a compact chest rig to hold spare mags and an IFAK again I prefer SOE Gear For training (most important) im a big fan of Magpul and Tactical Response As far as triggers Geissele and JP make the best. I prefer the Geissele (SD3) Super dynamic 3 gun trigger this is a straight trigger and not curved. Another forum you may want to visit is getofthex.com this is the forum run by James Yeager of Tactical Response (lots of good info) I hope this helps good luck CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Troy Industry iron sights Trijigon SRS Magpul's 30 round magazines 5.56 green tip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 FYI, most ranges will not allow 'green-tip' 5.56mm, because of the steel core(possible fire issue). This goes for any steel core ammo, BTW..... LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tennessee Stud, SASS# 43634 Life Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Three MAIN things to consider after the AR purchase... 1. Optics 2. Light 3. Sling In the choices above, practicality and available money are the primary drivers. Anything else... is superfluous and minor personal preferences. ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Woodrow Cahill, SASS # 54363 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 One of these is handy ... http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG414/88 ... Magpul angled foregrip. Single point sling adaptor (no disassembly required) ... http://www.tacticalaccessories.com/products/viewproduct.php?id_product=519 And a single point sling ... http://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-tactical-single-point-sling-black.html Red dot sight ... http://www.opticsplanet.com/truglo-red-dot-sights-tg8030gb.html And as many magazines as you can find. I like the C-Products ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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