Dick Dastardly SASS #45219 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 http://news.yahoo.com/bill-ban-lead-ammunition-california-080553784.html Hello west coast pards. Keep your eye on this one. It would spell the END of SASS in California. DD-MDA Link to comment
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I saw this too. It's not good. Link to comment
Speed E. Gonzalez Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 If anything it sounds like they would just ban it from hunting grounds. We would still probably be able to use it at gun ranges, I hope. Link to comment
Doc Shapiro Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 They want to ban lead state wide. Make no mistake, this is a full fledged assault on shooting. If it passes through, they'll be a lot closer to a total ban. Link to comment
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Does anydangbody have the bill #?? I can't find it...... LG Link to comment
Guest Texas Jack Black Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Time to move . Link to comment
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Hasn't been assigned a number yet. So far there's no language related to target shooting - hunting only. Much of the state is already classified as a "No Lead" zone for hunting. Link to comment
Madd Mike #8595 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 so what about the lead in yer car battery???????????????????????????? Link to comment
Dodo Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 They also want to ban lead sinkers for fishing too! Link to comment
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 so what about the lead in yer car battery???????????????????????????? Don't shoot it...... LG Link to comment
Madd Mike #8595 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 what about lead behind copper casing bullets? is this the back door to outlawing all bullets? lead is lead what say you guys Link to comment
McCandless Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Make no mistake, this is important. If it makes it through in California, other states won't be far behind... Link to comment
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 what about lead behind copper casing bullets? is this the back door to outlawing all bullets? lead is lead what say you guys Copper jacketed included too Mike. Link to comment
Quick Draw Granpaw #48525 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 At present there is a LEAD BAN for all areas that Mr. & Mrs Condor live and it's been that way for about 18 months now. FACT: Several tests have been run by colleges and they have found that the lead content ingested by the late Mr. & Mrs. Condor has come from automotive batteries and not the lead from bullets, I think it listed over 90% batteries. I feel very strongly that the NRA has heard this before. Happy trails QDG Link to comment
Subdeacon Joe Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Hasn't been assigned a number yet. So far there's no language related to target shooting - hunting only. Much of the state is already classified as a "No Lead" zone for hunting. The articles say that the revised, or was it amended, bill was read Monday. I'm wondering if they are already doing the "gut and amend" garbage to hide what they are doing? What is really odd to me is that according to my Assemblyman (Chesbro), the deadline for new bills was 22 Feb. If this is indeed a new bill, then someone is playing fast and loose with the rules. Link to comment
Dodo Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 You mean like the rules New York followed when they past all those bills behind closed doors. They don't know what rules are unless it's one that we have to follow! Link to comment
Subdeacon Joe Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Posted Today, 08:18 AM I just called the Hon. Mr. Rendon's Sacramento office. The bill is AB 711, http://www.leginfo.c...introduced.html BILL NUMBER: AB 711 INTRODUCED BILL TEXTINTRODUCED BY Assembly Member Rendon FEBRUARY 21, 2013 An act to amend Section 3002 of the Fish and Game Code, relatingto fish and wildlife. LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST AB 711, as introduced, Rendon. Fish and wildlife: methods oftaking. Existing law makes it unlawful to shoot at a game bird or mammal,including a marine mammal, as defined, from a powerboat, sailboat,motor vehicle, or airplane. This bill would make a nonsubstantive change to this provision. Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: no.State-mandated local program: no.THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS: SECTION 1. Section 3002 of the Fish and Game Code is amended toread: 3002. It is unlawful to shoot at any a game bird or mammal, including a marine mammal as defined inSection 4500, from a powerboat, sailboat, motor vehicle, or airplane. According to the guy I talked with, since it has just gone tocommittee the amendment introduced Monday (the deadline for amendingbills - supposedly), the language of the ban won't show up on Caleginfountil it comes out of committee. And the bill title will likely notreflect that it is now an ammo ban.Not quite the gut and amend, but in the same spirit - to hide theintent. He got kind of upset when I said it was like gut and amend andthat they were attempting to hide the true intent of it. He claimed itwas just "smoothing out the language." Link to comment
Levant Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 All I can say is, work harder to throw them out. Of course we need to do the same here in Oklahoma, too. I don't think Congress or the states represent the wishes of the people any longer. And even if that is the wish of the people, that is the purpose of the Constitution in our republic: to keep Majority Rules from running roughshod over minorities. Either way, we have to fight back. Link to comment
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