Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The following link is to the text of Oregon House Bill 3200, banning so-called "assault weapons" and "high-capacity magazines" in the state of Oregon. It has the whole enchilada: registration, storage, inspection of storage, all the usual garbage we've seen elsewhere. Let's all be writing our Reps to vote NO! on this bill! HB 3200 Here's what I wrote to my Representative. Feel free to add, subtract, multiply or divide: "Dear Representative Bentz: It came to my attention today that some of your colleagues have decided to criminalizelaw-abiding citizens even though said citizens have done nothing todeserve such treatment. I am referring to House Bill 3200. This bill,sponsored and endorsed by the same group of "legislators" who alsosponsored or endorsed Senator Burdick's magazine capacity bill and herbill to limit concealed carry in the state of Oregon, S.B. 346 and S.B.347. These bills, and H.B. 3200, are nothing more or less than powergrabs on the part of those who create them and will do next to nothingto make a difference in crime. These bills will instead, as I statedearlier in this paragraph, serve merely to make criminals of law-abidingcitizens.Mister Bentz, I urge you to make your vote on any and allso-called "common sense" gun laws a resounding "NO!". There is no reasonwhy the law-abiding public should be penalized for the actions of a fewderanged individuals. I also urge you to encourage your colleagues tovote "NO!" as well on any and all infringements on my rights under theSecond Amendment of the US Constitution. Sincerely, " Link to comment
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2013/02/oregon_gun_control_bill_attrac.html#incart_river A bill promoted by Ceasefire Oregon to ban many semi-automatic firearmsand high-capacity gun magazines generated a national outcry over theweekend from angry pro-gun activists. Even Rep. Mitch Greenlick, D-Portland, the chief sponsor of House Bill 3200,said the bill as introduced goes too far in not only banning the saleof these weapons but in limiting each gun owner to continue possessingjust one of these firearms. Greenlick said he also disagrees with a provision that would allowthe state police to investigate gun owners who possess one of theseweapons to make sure they are safely stored. "In its current form, it's a pretty flawed bill," said Greenlick, adding that "I don't think [the bill] is in play." Senate Judiciary Chairman Floyd Prozanski, D-Eugene, said last week that he didn't intend to proceed with any bills that would ban assault weapons or large-capacity magazines. House Judiciary Chairman Jeff Barker, D-Aloha, also said he opposed bans of this nature. Penny Okamoto, executive director of Ceasefire Oregon,said she thought the bill could still gain a favorable hearing at theLegislature because of public anger with gun violence in the wake of theshootings at Newtown, Conn. and the Clackamas Mall. "I think legislators are really going to hear from the majority of Oregonians who want an assault weapons ban," she said. At this point, legislators are hearing an outpouring of criticism forHB 3200 from opponents of gun control. Greenlick said he was pepperedwith as many as 1,000 emails over the weekend criticizing him and thebill. Several conservative web sites from around the country have portrayedthe bill harshly, and some have also left the casual reader with theimpression it is close to becoming law. "Oregon drafts invasive gun law," was the headline over a story on Breitbart.com,a popular conservative web site. It went on to describe the bill asgiving the government the power to confiscate guns since no one wouldallow to keep more than one of these guns or three magazines containingmore than 10 rounds of ammunition. Kevin Starrett, executive director of the Oregon Firearms Federation, helped stoke concern about the bill by sending out an email alert Friday just after it was introduced stating: HB 3200not only bans most modern guns and magazines, it allows warrantlesssearches of your home, requires background checks and registration for afirearm you already own and as-of-yet undefined storage requirements.We say “a firearm” because even if you comply with the restrictions inthis bill you may still only own one. "It'smore extreme than what I expected" when the bill was still in theconcept stage, said Starrett. He argued that most pistols and riflessold in the country now are semi-automatics and would fall under theproposed ban. Okamoto said that her group believed that gun owners didn't need theguns covered by HB 3200 for such purposes as hunting and self defense. And she argued that gun owners who kept one of the guns under theproposed ban in the bill would be "agreeing to allow this search." Greenlick said he would want to greatly amend the bill if it startedto move through the process. For now, he said, it's mostly stimulatingdebate. "It's not where they [most legislators] want to go and it's not whereI think we're going to go," said Greenlick, "but it's where we shouldbe going." Link to comment
Guest Texas Jack Black Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 DOA violates the 4th amendment more foolishness by so called LAW MAMERS. Link to comment
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 Got this back a little bit ago from one of the other folks I wrote to about this bill. He's one of the original supporters of it: " Dear Mr. XXXXXXXX, Thank you for writing me with your thoughts on House Bill 3200. Iunderstand your passion for the issue and appreciate your perspective. Isigned on to the bill because I'm hearing considerable interest from myconstituents in reducing gun violence. Since then, you and others have pointed out validconcerns with a number of specific provisions of the bill. I cannot seemyself supporting the bill in its current form, but I am glad that itsintroduction has stimulated discussion. My hopeis that we will be able to come together on smart policies that keepguns out of the hands of people who shouldn’t have them, whilerespecting the second amendment rights of law abiding Oregonians. Increased background checks and an increased commitment tomental health care are among the things I think we should consider. Iwelcome your thoughts, and will keep them in mind as the sessionprogresses. Please keep in touch. Best, Tobias Read Representative Tobias Read, HD 27 Democratic Whip 900 Court Street NE, H 286 Salem, OR 97301 Capitol: 503.986.1427 District: 503.641.6800 Rep.tobiasread@state.or.us" Not as positive as I'd like, but he at least does seem capable of listening to reason. Link to comment
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 And I got this one today: "Thank you for your e-mail pertaining to HB 3200. I would like to set therecord straight. HB 3200 was proposed in the House by Rep. MitchGreenlick and I do not support it. As I have previously stated, if anassault weapons ban or high capacity magazine ban is to move forwardthis year, I believe it should be addressed in Congress. Accordingly, Ido not plan on taking up any such legislation this session. I alsounderstand that Chair Jeff Barker does not plan on hearing HB 3200 inthe House Judiciary Committee. So it should be dead! I am a supporter of both the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution andArticle I, Section 27 of the Oregon Constitution. As a gun owner forover 40 years (I bought my first gun when I was 15 years old), I believean individual has the right to use a firearm to for self-defense andthe defense of others. At the same time, I believe Congress and thestates have the authority to establish reasonable regulations onfirearms. Thank you for your views on this issue. I look forward to an open discussionon your concerns and greatly value your input when making these kinds ofdecisions. Floyd ProzanskiSenate Judiciary Chair" Again, still not perfect, but at least somewhat positive... Link to comment
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Keep a close watch on 'em, Charlie...this is from today's Oregon Firearms Federation (OFF) ALERT: Now let’s take a look at mass email that anti-gunner Floyd Prozanski is sending out. In his email he claims that he is not a supporter of HB 3200 and he says “…it should be dead.”But the really interesting part of Prozanski’s email is this: “I am a supporter of both the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and Article I, Section 27 of the Oregon Constitution. As a gun owner for over 40 years (I bought my first gun when I was 15 years old), I believe an individual has the right to use a firearm to for self-defense and the defense of others.” Ok, most of us are wondering how Floyd could have “bought a gun when he was 15.” Seems like there might be some legal issues there. But more important is Prozanski’s claim that he is a “supporter of the Second Amendment.” Prozanski supports an end to private transfers of firearms, a ban on lowly “citizens’ ” concealed carry at the Capitol and extreme new restrictions on issuing of CHL’s. This hardly sounds like a person who understands the term “shall not be infringed.” As soon as a politician tells you a bill won’t pass, that’s a good time to keep your eye on that bill. Last session Prozanski claimed that a bill banning self-defense firearms on school property was dead and then it was resurrected in the closing days of the session. So be forewarned. Anything can happen. But what we think is coming very soon will be hearings in Prozanski’s committee for some or all of the bills he wants or has sponsored. An end to private transfers, new restrictions on CHL’s, a ban on licensed carry and more. We expect to see these bills scheduled as early as next week. As always, we will keep you informed, but it would not be a bad idea to let the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee know that you oppose all new gun control. Their contact info is here. Link to comment
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 All of the dang anti gunners claim to be pro 2a. At least their version of it. Link to comment
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