Goodbye SASS in CT

[Cemetery]

The War is really gonna be coming down in CT;

 

General Assembly

Proposed Bill No. 122

January Session, 2013

LCO No. 543

Referred to Committee on JUDICIARY

Introduced by: SEN. MEYER, 12th Dist.

 

AN ACT CONCERNING RESTRICTIONS ON GUN USE.

 

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Assembly convened:

 

That the general statutes be amended to establish a class C felony offense, except for certain military and law enforcement personnel and certain gun clubs, for (1) any person or organization to purchase, sell, donate, transport, possess or use any gun except one made to fire a single round, (2) any person to fire a gun containing more than a single round, (3) any person or organization to receive from another state, territory or country a gun made to fire multiple rounds, or (4) any person or organization to purchase, sell, donate or possess a magazine or clip capable of holding more than one round.

 

Statement of Purpose: To reduce the use of guns for criminal purposes.

 

This type of thing should really be a wake up call to gun owners....even if you don't like 'modern' guns, SxS shotguns, Lever guns, Revolvers, basically anything after, what, 1840 something? would be illegal......

 

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/robert-farago/connecticut-bill-122-restrict-all-guns-to-a-single-shot/

[Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217]

Hello Cemetary,

 

Has this passed and been signed by the governor?

 

It certainly is outrageous.

 

Regards,

 

Allie Mo

[Utah Bob #35998]

I knew some loony would get around to proposing this eventually. I can't believe this would have a ghost of a chance of passing, even in California or Chicago.

[Brooklyn Slim]

except for certain military and law enforcement personnel and certain gun clubs,

 

While the law will be as effective as a "Gun Free Zone" in preventing weapons crime, I could see the formation of a lot of "gun clubs", with each club oriented around specific types of weapons. Personally, I think a "Zombie Hunters Gun Club", where we need ARs and AKs, etc. to keep all the Zombies from overrunning CT.

 

One would think a CAS Gun Club, sponsored by SASS and the NRA would qualify. How about a "Home Defense Gun Club", or a "Concealed Carry Gun Club"?

 

Elections have consequences, and the voters of CT are getting what they deserve. Fortunately, the idiots they elected may leave enough loopholes for us to drive a Howitzer through.

 

Of course, it's better to prevent the damn law from being passed in the first place.

[Horrible Heath]

the villain in the movie hard boiled used a single shot TC pistol with rifle rounds to great effect to cause mass death in a hospital.

 

its not about the guns, its about control.

[Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217]

Hey Wait!

 

It says "fire a single round." All of our guns for CAS and WBAS only fire one round at a time.

 

Or, am I misreading?

 

Regards,

 

Allie Mo

[Manatee]

Anyone can PROPOSE anything they please. It doesn't mean that it will pass or withstand scrutiny by SCOTUS.

 

One thing we don't need is to hype our own paranoia. There's enough of that on the other side of this issue.

[Badlands Beady]

Hey Wait!

 

It says "fire a single round." All of our guns for CAS and WBAS only fire one round at a time.

 

Or, am I misreading?

 

Regards,

 

Allie Mo

 

It's bad wording, should read "load" rather than "fire." This, alone, would be enough for a court to overturn it. Anyway, I doubt it'll pass.

 

Folks, my wife used to work on the Capitol Hill staffs of two different Congressmen, and she tells me that all kinds of laws are "proposed" every day, even though they don't stand a ghost of a chance. Proposing such a bill is an easy way of demonstrating your concern without actually having to bear any responsibility for its execution. I kind of suspect Feinstein's bill of doing this: I simply can't believe anyone would vote for a bill that seizes someone's personal property upon their death.

[Turquoise Bill, SASS #39118]

Here is a link to what is proposed, nothing has become law at this point. I used to live in CT, moved because of the brainwashed liberal majority doesn't get it back there!

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2013/01/10/news/doc50ee120a2a14c410991529.txt?viewmode=4

 

TB

[Captain Bill Burt]

Hey Wait!

 

It says "fire a single round." All of our guns for CAS and WBAS only fire one round at a time.

 

Or, am I misreading?

 

Regards,

 

Allie Mo

I think you're misreading. That part is followed by: (2) any person to fire a gun containing more than a single round,

 

and:

(4) any person or organization to purchase, sell, donate or possess a magazine or clip capable of holding more than one round.

 

I'm pretty sure our tubes count as magazines.

 

I can hear it now, "Round count, one, one and one."

[Captain Bill Burt]

It's bad wording, should read "load" rather than "fire." This, alone, would be enough for a court to overturn it. Anyway, I doubt it'll pass.

 

Folks, my wife used to work on the Capitol Hill staffs of two different Congressmen, and she tells me that all kinds of laws are "proposed" every day, even though they don't stand a ghost of a chance. Proposing such a bill is an easy way of demonstrating your concern without actually having to bear any responsibility for its execution. I kind of suspect Feinstein's bill of doing this: I simply can't believe anyone would vote for a bill that seizes someone's personal property upon their death.

You mean like the estate (death) tax that just went up to 50% (I think).

[Utah Bob #35998]

Anyone can PROPOSE anything they please. It doesn't mean that it will pass or withstand scrutiny by SCOTUS.

 

One thing we don't need is to hype our own paranoia. There's enough of that on the other side of this issue.

Exactly.

[Slowhand Bob, 24229]

I disagree, this is exactly what we do need to start hyping, very loudly and vocally. These are also the very proposals that the NRA and each of us should catalog for reference to be readdressed every time a talking head interviewer blathers that no one actually wants anything but the EVIL 'ASSAULT' weapons. We can show the little snippets endlessly on here and other conservative formats of Fienstein caught in the lie of what she is after but until those millions of unconcerned hunters and other sportsman see it??? Lets face it, most hunters and clay shooters seem to care little about the constitution but do pay attention to every promise their local union makes on behalf of the liberals. The lies go beyond hypocrisy and our failures to point them out go beyond belief. We have let these people define us for so long that we are now scared to even speak up as the slaughter of our freedoms take place right in front of our eyes. We are afraid of insulting the sensibilities of of someone who does not have the common sense or moral character to have a belief in anything.

[Springfield Slim SASS #24733]

You're wrong, Badlands. California already has that law, any registered assault type weapons that were grandfathered in after the ban can not be sold, transferred or willed to anyone (in California). Once I die, it goes to the state to be destroyed. Good thing I have relatives out of state who will hold it for my kids until they are old enough to take them. And yes, Feinstein did get that passed while she was a crook, I mean politician, here, before she moved on to destroying rights nationwide.

[Badlands Beady]

You're wrong, Badlands. California already has that law, any registered assault type weapons that were grandfathered in after the ban can not be sold, transferred or willed to anyone (in California). Once I die, it goes to the state to be destroyed. Good thing I have relatives out of state who will hold it for my kids until they are old enough to take them. And yes, Feinstein did get that passed while she was a crook, I mean politician, here, before she moved on to destroying rights nationwide.

 

I stand corrected. Still, California is not the US, and the state legislature is not the Congress.

[Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L]

I stand corrected. Still, California is not the US, and the state legislature is not the Congress.

 

Unfortunately more often than not how California goes is how the nation will follow.

 

GG

[Billy Bristol]

I just sent an email to his office. Told him the real issue was not the guns but mental health. get it right!

[Madd Mike #8595]

Anyone can PROPOSE anything they please. It doesn't mean that it will pass or withstand scrutiny by SCOTUS.

 

One thing we don't need is to hype our own paranoia. There's enough of that on the other side of this issue.

 

wow

I sure remember hearing talk like that about abomb-A-care

http://www.atr.org/braces-kids-more-expensive-obamacare-tax-a7407

 

Wording like that passed years ago in California

if you got pulled over heading to EOT

the officer could legally take your single shot rifle

so you can argue wording in court later (harassment tricks)

 

true fact ;)/>/>/>

 

the fact that folks even try to pass such stuff

puts a strain on moneys, to counter their silliness

then their comprimise is giving up passing the single shot rifle

for the larger grand prize, while saying

see we compromised

[Hacker, SASS #55963]

Unfortunately more often than not how California goes is how the nation will follow.

 

GG

 

Blind leading the blind.

Needs to be sighted avoiding pitfalls already fallen into by the blind.

[Lou Graham, # 26112]

We routinely fight insane gun legislation like this in CT. Pretty much every session.

Same drill, over and over, writing and emailing and calling and showing up at the state house in Hartford for a whole day. The trick is to make in die before it gets out of the committee.

 

We also have individual towns trying to pass laws over and above what the state laws are. More writing and emailing and calling and showing up...........

 

I started doing this rope-a-dope the year after I started CAS. That was the year California passed a new law that made our cowboy rifles illegal if you can fit an extra round or two in it. CT. loves to do whatever CA. does so they tried to pass it here. CA. figured out the error eventually and fixed it. CT. law did not pass.

 

CT is overrun with liberals but the gunowners get up, get together and get it done. There are a LOT more female gunowners now after what happenened to the Pettit family. We also have 6,500 violent criminals (armed robbery, sex offenders, homicide, you name it) that the state turned loose on the streets to save money at the prisons. That's a LOT of bad guys looking for a victim in such a little state. We intend to keep our guns and our magazines.

[John Boy]

January 8, 2013 ... NJ Liberals Introduce 18 Gun Control Bills Today

 

A-3645/S-2476 Requires ammunition sales and transfers be conducted as face-to-face transactions.

 

A-3646/S-2474 Establishes a regulatory system to govern the sale and transfer of ammunition.

 

A-3653 Criminalizes purchasing or owning weapon if person has previous conviction of unlawful possession of weapon.

 

A-3659 Revises definition of destructive device to include certain weapons of 50 caliber or greater.

 

A-3664 Reduces lawful maximum capacity of certain ammunition magazines in New Jersey.

 

A-3666/S-2465 Prohibits mail order, Internet, telephone, and any other anonymous method of ammunition sale or transfer in New Jersey.

 

A-3667 Requires mental health screening by licensed professional to purchase a firearm.

 

A-3668/S-2467 Prohibits investment by State of pension and annuity funds in companies manufacturing, importing, and selling assault firearms for civilian use.

 

A-3676 Requires psychological evaluation and in-home inspection as prerequisite to purchase firearm.

 

A-3687 Disqualifies person named on federal Terrorist Watchlist from obtaining firearms identification card or permit to purchase handgun.

 

A-3688 Requires mental health evaluation and list of household members with mental illness to purchase firearm.

 

A-3689 Requires security guards who carry weapons to wear certain uniform, including identification card.

 

A-3690/S-2430 Declares violence a public health crisis, recommends expansion of mental health programs, recommends federal adoption of gun control measures, and establishes “Study Commission on Violence.”

 

AJR-89 Urges President and US Senate to ratify Arms Trade Treaty proposed by United Nations.

 

AR-133 Expresses support for creation of task force on gun control led by Vice President Biden.

 

S-2464 Regulates sale and transfer of rifle and shotgun ammunition.

 

S-2475 Reduces maximum capacity of ammunition magazines to 10 rounds.

 

SR-92 Urges Congress to strengthen gun control laws.

[Madd Mike #8595]

 

I started doing this rope-a-dope the year after I started CAS. That was the year California passed a new law that made our cowboy rifles illegal if you can fit an extra round or two in it. CT. loves to do whatever CA. does so they tried to pass it here. CA. figured out the error eventually and fixed it. CT. law did not pass.

 

 

wow

thanks

some one that backs what I said about cal and single shot rifles

I am not so madd after all :lol:

[Quick Draw Granpaw #48525]

Hey Wait!

 

It says "fire a single round." All of our guns for CAS and WBAS only fire one round at a time.

 

Or, am I misreading?

 

Regards,

 

Allie Mo

 

Howdy Allie, me thinks your playing a version of Jeopardy. Did you learn that trick

from the government? LOL

Quick Draw Grandpa

[Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217]

[The Original Lumpy Gritz]

There goes 'crash', be'n a trouble maker

LG

[backshootin beauford mcgee]

We routinely fight insane gun legislation like this in CT. Pretty much every session.

Same drill, over and over, writing and emailing and calling and showing up at the state house in Hartford for a whole day. The trick is to make in die before it gets out of the committee.

 

We also have individual towns trying to pass laws over and above what the state laws are. More writing and emailing and calling and showing up...........

 

I started doing this rope-a-dope the year after I started CAS. That was the year California passed a new law that made our cowboy rifles illegal if you can fit an extra round or two in it. CT. loves to do whatever CA. does so they tried to pass it here. CA. figured out the error eventually and fixed it. CT. law did not pass.

 

CT is overrun with liberals but the gunowners get up, get together and get it done. There are a LOT more female gunowners now after what happenened to the Pettit family. We also have 6,500 violent criminals (armed robbery, sex offenders, homicide, you name it) that the state turned loose on the streets to save money at the prisons. That's a LOT of bad guys looking for a victim in such a little state. We intend to keep our guns and our magazines.

I'd be looking at relocation if I lived in that state or commiefornia!

[Buck D. Law, SASS #62183]

We routinely fight insane gun legislation like this in CT. Pretty much every session.

Same drill, over and over, writing and emailing and calling and showing up at the state house in Hartford for a whole day. The trick is to make in die before it gets out of the committee.

 

We also have individual towns trying to pass laws over and above what the state laws are. More writing and emailing and calling and showing up...........

 

I started doing this rope-a-dope the year after I started CAS. That was the year California passed a new law that made our cowboy rifles illegal if you can fit an extra round or two in it. CT. loves to do whatever CA. does so they tried to pass it here. CA. figured out the error eventually and fixed it. CT. law did not pass.

 

CT is overrun with liberals but the gunowners get up, get together and get it done. There are a LOT more female gunowners now after what happenened to the Pettit family. We also have 6,500 violent criminals (armed robbery, sex offenders, homicide, you name it) that the state turned loose on the streets to save money at the prisons. That's a LOT of bad guys looking for a victim in such a little state. We intend to keep our guns and our magazines.

Lou, it is the people like you who stand in the anti's way. Thank you. If all the fighters like yourself moved to another state and handed their state over, the rest of the nation moves as well; we move one step closer to federally mandated gun control. As we turn over the states, we do the same in the House and Senate...where the power to pass federal law resides.

 

I can only imagine what it would be like to live in a gun unfriendly state as I live in a state in which guns are just everyday life. For a $20 annual fee and a felony free record, a CCW is yours. The anti's, if they were interested in facts instead of fiction, would be amazed to find that in such a place where the ability to own and carry guns is so common, just like the gun restrictive states, it is still the felony criminals (who can't buy guns) who typically commit the "gun" crimes along with the other crimes. I think I see a pattern.

 

Again, thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lou Graham, # 26112]

I'm not FROM there, I'm just stuck living there :ph34r:/>

As a kid, I can remember men getting on the plane with long guns in a case, handing it to the flight attendant and she stowed it carefully in the closet so it could ride easy on the flight! Thank you D. B. Cooper for ending that....

 

I have actually been told by co-workers "You don't look like a gun nut" and "I want everybody's guns confiscated but yours because you love what you do so much" which I use to advantage to try and myth-bust what a typical gun owner is. I'm a typical gun owner.

 

I've even gotten several ladies from work to come to the range and try it. One at a time is a slow conversion process, but hearing someone quiffy and timid ask "Can I shoot this one again?" and seeing the smile when they get a little group of holes or ding steel makes me think that might be the only way we can do this. One at a time, on a personal level. Three of them have gone on to shoot more and taken the permit class. If you can convince the Moms, you have won the battle.

[Dirty Dan Dawkins]

 

 

A-3688 Requires mental health evaluation and list of household members with mental illness to purchase firearm.

 

 

 

We have harped on the mental health aspect, I have, now here is an attempt to address what we have been saying, in a different way, and work it against us. Here goes.....

Problem with legislation like this is some gun owners get conned into seeing them as reasonable without seeing the ever reaching implications and intentions of it's author.

Here's a question: Would having your kid diagnosed with ADHD or some other BS disorder be enough to take away your rights since gun ownership would put a juvenile with a mental health issue in close proximity to firearms and thus pose a risk to public safety? Or the countless adults on psychadelic prescription drugs? What about your unstable grand kids, nieces or nephews that visit? Or a brother or sister on Paxil or whatever with a history of anxiety and depression? This has potential to disqualify possession for most all of us. Leading toward a shame and where you feel compelled not to even talk about or let folks know you have guns, which isn't completely bad, but this is for all the wrong reasons. One of the many objectives is leading towards a negative societal stigma of gun ownership. Eric Holder spoke in such terms publicly back in the 90s.

[Ace_of_Hearts]

Does this mean that we can have a Howitzer in our garage?

[Madd Mike #8595]

 

I've even gotten several ladies from work to come to the range and try it. One at a time is a slow conversion process, but hearing someone quiffy and timid ask "Can I shoot this one again?" and seeing the smile when they get a little group of holes or ding steel makes me think that might be the only way we can do this. One at a time, on a personal level. Three of them have gone on to shoot more and taken the permit class. If you can convince the Moms, you have won the battle.

 

this works the best

I have had the same success

 

fear is usually the lack of knowlege of what it is you fear

spyders or guns or snakes its the same

educate yourselves about them

and everything can change

 

I love to watch the moms start is CAS

many will say, I am just here for my loved one, and I like to dress

 

soon they are shooting

and more often then not

loveing the shootin aspect as well

[Utah Bob #35998]

Does this mean that we can have a Howitzer in our garage?

In 1970 when I was leaving Vietnam I went to the Provost Marshal's office to register my war trophies as required. I took my SKS, some NVA field gear and a nib RPG7 that we had found in a big weapon cache in Cambodia.

It was a beautiful piece. Laquered wood and blued barrel. The MP Sgt at the desk said, with bugging eyes, "You can't take that back". I was prepared with a copy of the regs which I handed to him.

Fully automatic weapons, destructive devices and explosives were prohibited. I pointed out that this was a single shot, shoulder fired, individual infantry weapon. He read the regs two or three times, turned a bit pale and sprinted back to his Lts office. The Lt swaggered out, saw that I outranked him, made a left turn and went to the Capts office. An animated discussion ensued, much to my amusement, and both of them headed to the Major's office with the sgt in tow. I didn't have a view of the Major's office but a few minutes later the whole squad emerged and marched back to the front desk where I waited patiently.

 

"What", bellowed the puffed up Major, "is your intent here Captain? Are you some kind of smartass?

Well, despite his having hit the nail on the head with that one, I simply replied, "I plan to make a lamp out of it Sir."

 

After a short stare down, which I claim I won, he puffed up some more (this was impressive, considering how much he was inflated already) and growled "Well that's not going to happen. I don't give a s*** how you interpret the regs!"

His squad fanned out behind him, prepared for anything.

"Yes Sir",I said with a smile. I put on my hat, picked up my paperwork for the "legal" items, did an about face and walked out, still grinning.

I heard him bellow as I hit the bright sunshine outside, "AND DON'T WEAR THAT GOD D****D BOONY HAT HERE AT HEADQUARTERS!!"

 

I had known what the outcome would be of course. Damn thing sure woulda made a fine lamp though. http://battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/RPG-7

 

So I think your howitzer would probably be a no no.:D/>

[Prof. Fuller Bullspit]

In 1970 when I was leaving Vietnam I went to the Provost Marshal's office to register my war trophies as required. I took my SKS, some NVA field gear and a nib RPG7 that we had found in a big weapon cache in Cambodia.

It was a beautiful piece. Laquered wood and blued barrel. The MP Sgt at the desk said, with bugging eyes, "You can't take that back". I was prepared with a copy of the regs which I handed to him.

Fully automatic weapons, destructive devices and explosives were prohibited. I pointed out that this was a single shot, shoulder fired, individual infantry weapon. He read the regs two or three times, turned a bit pale and sprinted back to his Lts office. The Lt swaggered out, saw that I outranked him, made a left turn and went to the Capts office. An animated discussion ensued, much to my amusement, and both of them headed to the Major's office with the sgt in tow. I didn't have a view of the Major's office but a few minutes later the whole squad emerged and marched back to the front desk where I waited patiently.

 

"What", bellowed the puffed up Major, "is your intent here Captain? Are you some kind of smartass?

Well, despite his having hit the nail on the head with that one, I simply replied, "I plan to make a lamp out of it Sir."

 

After a short stare down, which I claim I won, he puffed up some more (this was impressive, considering how much he was inflated already) and growled "Well that's not going to happen. I don't give a s*** how you interpret the regs!"

His squad fanned out behind him, prepared for anything.

"Yes Sir",I said with a smile. I put on my hat, picked up my paperwork for the "legal" items, did an about face and walked out, still grinning.

I heard him bellow as I hit the bright sunshine outside, "AND DON'T WEAR THAT GOD D****D BOONY HAT HERE AT HEADQUARTERS!!"

 

I had known what the outcome would be of course. Damn thing sure woulda made a fine lamp though. http://battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/RPG-7

 

So I think your howitzer would probably be a no no.:D/>/>

 

You sir, are the epitome of style.

 

It would have made a great lamp.

[Marauder SASS #13056]

I'm not FROM there, I'm just stuck living there />

As a kid, I can remember men getting on the plane with long guns in a case, handing it to the flight attendant and she stowed it carefully in the closet so it could ride easy on the flight! Thank you D. B. Cooper for ending that....

 

I have actually been told by co-workers "You don't look like a gun nut" and "I want everybody's guns confiscated but yours because you love what you do so much" which I use to advantage to try and myth-bust what a typical gun owner is. I'm a typical gun owner.

 

I've even gotten several ladies from work to come to the range and try it. One at a time is a slow conversion process, but hearing someone quiffy and timid ask "Can I shoot this one again?" and seeing the smile when they get a little group of holes or ding steel makes me think that might be the only way we can do this. One at a time, on a personal level. Three of them have gone on to shoot more and taken the permit class. If you can convince the Moms, you have won the battle.

 

I think you discovered the secret to how we should have already won this battle.

 

Great job!

[Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217]

Speaking of lamps.

 

A friend of my parents made one and gave it to them that was made out of a brass casing that is about 18" high and 3" diameter. I think he brought it back from service in WWII. I have it now. I think it's

 

Regards,

 

Allie Mo