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http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_53&sess=CUR&house=B&author=de_le%F3n

 

BILL NUMBER: SB 53 INTRODUCED

BILL TEXT

 

 

INTRODUCED BY Senator De León

(Principal coauthor: Senator Yee)

(Coauthor: Senator Steinberg)

(Coauthor: Assembly Member Skinner)

 

DECEMBER 20, 2012

 

An act to amend Sections 11106, 17315, 30312, 30347, 30350, 30352,

and 30365 of, to amend the heading of Article 3 (commencing with

Section 30345) of Chapter 1 of Division 10 of Title 4 of Part 6 of,

to add Section 16663 to, and to add Article 4 (commencing with

Section 30370) to Chapter 1 of Division 10 of Title 4 of Part 6 of,

the Penal Code, relating to ammunition.

 

 

 

LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST

 

 

SB 53, as introduced, De León. Ammunition: purchase permits.

(1) Existing law requires the Attorney General to maintain

records, including among other things, fingerprints, licenses to

carry concealed firearms, and information from firearms dealers

pertaining to firearms, for purposes of assisting in the

investigation of crimes, and specified civil actions.

This bill would require the Attorney General to also maintain

copies of ammunition purchase permits for those purposes.

(2) Existing law, subject to exceptions, requires that the

delivery or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition occur only in

a face-to-face transaction. Existing law provides that the term

"vendor" for purposes of ammunition sales is a "handgun ammunition

vendor" as defined for those and other purposes.

This bill would extend those provisions to any ammunition. The

bill would provide that the term "vendor" for purposes of ammunition

sales means "ammunition vendor" as defined for those and other

purposes. The bill would make additional conforming changes.

 

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=ab_48&sess=CUR&house=B&author=skinner

 

BILL NUMBER: AB 48 INTRODUCED

BILL TEXT

 

 

INTRODUCED BY Assembly Member Skinner

(Coauthor: Assembly Member Ammiano)

(Coauthor: Senator De León)

 

DECEMBER 20, 2012

 

An act to amend Sections 16740, 16890, and 32390 of, and to add

Sections 16740.5, 30301, and 32311 to, the Penal Code, relating to

firearms.

 

 

 

LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST

 

 

AB 48, as introduced, Skinner. Firearms: ammunition: sales.

(1) Except as specified, existing law makes it a crime to

manufacture, import, keep for sale, offer or expose for sale, or give

or lend any large-capacity magazine, and makes a large-capacity

magazine a nuisance. Existing law defines "large-capacity magazine"

to mean any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept

more than 10 rounds but excludes, in pertinent part, a feeding device

that has been permanently altered so that the magazine cannot

accommodate more than 10 rounds.

This bill would make it a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of not

more than $1,000 or imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed 6

months, or by both that fine and imprisonment, to knowingly

manufacture, import, keep for sale, offer or expose for sale, or give

or lend any device that is capable of converting an ammunition

feeding device into a large-capacity magazine. The bill would revise

the definition of "large-capacity magazine" to mean any ammunition

feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,

including a readily restorable, as defined, disassembled

large-capacity magazine, and an oversize magazine body that appears

to hold in excess of 10 rounds. The bill would make related,

conforming changes. By creating a new crime, this bill would impose a

state-mandated local program.

(2) Existing law prohibits any person, corporation, or dealer from

selling ammunition to a person under 18 years of age, selling

ammunition designed for use in a handgun to a person under 21 years

of age, or providing possession of any ammunition to any minor who

the person, corporation, or dealer knows is prohibited from

possessing that ammunition at that time. Existing law prohibits a

person, corporation, or firm from giving possession or control of

ammunition to any person who he or she knows is prohibited by law

from possessing ammunition. Existing law also regulates handgun

ammunition vendors and provides that a handgun ammunition vendor

shall not permit any employee who the vendor knows or reasonably

should know is a person who has been convicted of a felony or other

specified crimes to handle, sell, or deliver handgun ammunition in

the course and scope of employment.

This bill would require anyone in the state, prior to selling,

transferring, or otherwise furnishing ammunition to an individual or

business entity in this state or any other state to require proper

identification, as prescribed, to be an authorized firearms dealer,

and to report the sales to the Department of Justice. An individual

who fails to make the required report or who knowingly makes a report

with false or fictitious information would be guilty of a

misdemeanor, as specified. By creating a new crime, this bill would

impose a state-mandated local program.

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I see they are still moroons.

 

Was hopin' Santa had brought them some brains, or least some understanding and respect for our Constitution. God help California! :ph34r:

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I see they are still moroons.

 

Was hopin' Santa had brought them some brains, or least some understanding and respect for our Constitution. God help California! :ph34r:/>

 

DAMMIT HARV!!! You should have given a spew alert on that one!

 

Oh...

 

 

 

Wait...

 

 

You WEREN'T making a joke, were you?

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Idiots.

 

Yet another bill on the way - some woman assemblycritter on the radio this morning was going on about "Gun sales are reported... gun transfers are reported... we have all SORTS of gun laws but NO laws on ammunition! My new bill will require reporting and tracking ALL AMMUNITION SALES AND TRANSFERS!" (not an exact quote, but close).

 

Well DOH...! :wacko: Like, Lady, all that oppressive stuff you've already done hasn't worked so yer just gonna heap on more? That pile's smellin' bad enough already! :angry:

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Didn't that IDIOT push the same POS law a couple of yrs. ago??

LG

 

yes he did Lumpy

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yes he did Lumpy

 

Hey, are you going to be able to make it to Rep. Mike Thompsons forum on guns:

 

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20130105/articles/130109762?p=1&tc=pg

 

6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday in the supervisors chambers at 575 Administration Drive, Santa Rosa, CA.

 

Unfortunately, I have to be at work then.

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Hey, are you going to be able to make it to Rep. Mike Thompsons forum on guns:

 

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20130105/articles/130109762?p=1&tc=pg

 

6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday in the supervisors chambers at 575 Administration Drive, Santa Rosa, CA.

 

Unfortunately, I have to be at work then.

 

I don't yet, except for the Sheriff( who is very pro gun and trys to issue as many CCW as he can) they are all anti gun liberals

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I don't yet, except for the Sheriff( who is very pro gun and trys to issue as many CCW as he can) they are all anti gun liberals

 

I thought the SoCo Sheriff had what amounted to a "no issue" policy. Or was that the last guy?

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I thought the SoCo Sheriff had what amounted to a "no issue" policy. Or was that the last guy?

that was the last guy, still not easy but is doable

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