Subdeacon Joe Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_53&sess=CUR&house=B&author=de_le%F3n BILL NUMBER: SB 53 INTRODUCED BILL TEXT INTRODUCED BY Senator De León (Principal coauthor: Senator Yee) (Coauthor: Senator Steinberg) (Coauthor: Assembly Member Skinner) DECEMBER 20, 2012 An act to amend Sections 11106, 17315, 30312, 30347, 30350, 30352, and 30365 of, to amend the heading of Article 3 (commencing with Section 30345) of Chapter 1 of Division 10 of Title 4 of Part 6 of, to add Section 16663 to, and to add Article 4 (commencing with Section 30370) to Chapter 1 of Division 10 of Title 4 of Part 6 of, the Penal Code, relating to ammunition. LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST SB 53, as introduced, De León. Ammunition: purchase permits. (1) Existing law requires the Attorney General to maintain records, including among other things, fingerprints, licenses to carry concealed firearms, and information from firearms dealers pertaining to firearms, for purposes of assisting in the investigation of crimes, and specified civil actions. This bill would require the Attorney General to also maintain copies of ammunition purchase permits for those purposes. (2) Existing law, subject to exceptions, requires that the delivery or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition occur only in a face-to-face transaction. Existing law provides that the term "vendor" for purposes of ammunition sales is a "handgun ammunition vendor" as defined for those and other purposes. This bill would extend those provisions to any ammunition. The bill would provide that the term "vendor" for purposes of ammunition sales means "ammunition vendor" as defined for those and other purposes. The bill would make additional conforming changes. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=ab_48&sess=CUR&house=B&author=skinner BILL NUMBER: AB 48 INTRODUCED BILL TEXT INTRODUCED BY Assembly Member Skinner (Coauthor: Assembly Member Ammiano) (Coauthor: Senator De León) DECEMBER 20, 2012 An act to amend Sections 16740, 16890, and 32390 of, and to add Sections 16740.5, 30301, and 32311 to, the Penal Code, relating to firearms. LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST AB 48, as introduced, Skinner. Firearms: ammunition: sales. (1) Except as specified, existing law makes it a crime to manufacture, import, keep for sale, offer or expose for sale, or give or lend any large-capacity magazine, and makes a large-capacity magazine a nuisance. Existing law defines "large-capacity magazine" to mean any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds but excludes, in pertinent part, a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that the magazine cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds. This bill would make it a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of not more than $1,000 or imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed 6 months, or by both that fine and imprisonment, to knowingly manufacture, import, keep for sale, offer or expose for sale, or give or lend any device that is capable of converting an ammunition feeding device into a large-capacity magazine. The bill would revise the definition of "large-capacity magazine" to mean any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, including a readily restorable, as defined, disassembled large-capacity magazine, and an oversize magazine body that appears to hold in excess of 10 rounds. The bill would make related, conforming changes. By creating a new crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program. (2) Existing law prohibits any person, corporation, or dealer from selling ammunition to a person under 18 years of age, selling ammunition designed for use in a handgun to a person under 21 years of age, or providing possession of any ammunition to any minor who the person, corporation, or dealer knows is prohibited from possessing that ammunition at that time. Existing law prohibits a person, corporation, or firm from giving possession or control of ammunition to any person who he or she knows is prohibited by law from possessing ammunition. Existing law also regulates handgun ammunition vendors and provides that a handgun ammunition vendor shall not permit any employee who the vendor knows or reasonably should know is a person who has been convicted of a felony or other specified crimes to handle, sell, or deliver handgun ammunition in the course and scope of employment. This bill would require anyone in the state, prior to selling, transferring, or otherwise furnishing ammunition to an individual or business entity in this state or any other state to require proper identification, as prescribed, to be an authorized firearms dealer, and to report the sales to the Department of Justice. An individual who fails to make the required report or who knowingly makes a report with false or fictitious information would be guilty of a misdemeanor, as specified. By creating a new crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Mushman Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I see they are still moroons. Was hopin' Santa had brought them some brains, or least some understanding and respect for our Constitution. God help California! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 I see they are still moroons. Was hopin' Santa had brought them some brains, or least some understanding and respect for our Constitution. God help California! :ph34r:/> DAMMIT HARV!!! You should have given a spew alert on that one! Oh... Wait... You WEREN'T making a joke, were you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Idiots. Yet another bill on the way - some woman assemblycritter on the radio this morning was going on about "Gun sales are reported... gun transfers are reported... we have all SORTS of gun laws but NO laws on ammunition! My new bill will require reporting and tracking ALL AMMUNITION SALES AND TRANSFERS!" (not an exact quote, but close). Well DOH...! Like, Lady, all that oppressive stuff you've already done hasn't worked so yer just gonna heap on more? That pile's smellin' bad enough already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 I think that is AB48, Hardpan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Didn't that IDIOT push the same POS law a couple of yrs. ago?? LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shoer 27979 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Didn't that IDIOT push the same POS law a couple of yrs. ago?? LG yes he did Lumpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 yes he did Lumpy Hey, are you going to be able to make it to Rep. Mike Thompsons forum on guns: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20130105/articles/130109762?p=1&tc=pg 6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday in the supervisors chambers at 575 Administration Drive, Santa Rosa, CA. Unfortunately, I have to be at work then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shoer 27979 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Hey, are you going to be able to make it to Rep. Mike Thompsons forum on guns: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20130105/articles/130109762?p=1&tc=pg 6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday in the supervisors chambers at 575 Administration Drive, Santa Rosa, CA. Unfortunately, I have to be at work then. I don't yet, except for the Sheriff( who is very pro gun and trys to issue as many CCW as he can) they are all anti gun liberals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 I don't yet, except for the Sheriff( who is very pro gun and trys to issue as many CCW as he can) they are all anti gun liberals I thought the SoCo Sheriff had what amounted to a "no issue" policy. Or was that the last guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I think that is AB48, Hardpan. Yeah... must've been Skinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shoer 27979 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I thought the SoCo Sheriff had what amounted to a "no issue" policy. Or was that the last guy? that was the last guy, still not easy but is doable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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