Korupt Karl Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I agree totally I have seen board members do an early shoot through, day before sidematch day, for official scores, not properly dressed, some in tee shirts, shorts, etc, (cuss it was hot) that is not honerable, no matter how hard they work mileage always varies Had I taken the time to read all of the posts I could have just put Duece's comments up.....I posted just ahead of you and in essence said what Duece did. ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck D. Law, SASS #62183 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 This year someone wrote that a group of people think that the state champion should NOT write stages for the match. And if he does they will boycott the match next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Wasn't there a group of shooters threating to boycott EOT2012 if something wasn't changed? And some if not all put enough pressure on the EOT staff to get their way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang It Dan 13202 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Wasn't there a group of shooters threating to boycott EOT2012 if something wasn't changed? And some if not all put enough pressure on the EOT staff to get their way? The operative word you used was "group". This guy had ONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 The operative word you used was "group". This guy had ONE. One can grow to two, then three, as it rather did at EOT. Just depends on how far the unhappy camper wants to push it. If person just boycotts the event and stays home silently, then damage control is minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I agree totally I have seen board members do an early shoot through, day before sidematch day, for official scores, not properly dressed, some in tee shirts, shorts, etc, (cuss it was hot) that is not honerable, no matter how hard they work mileage always varies Hi Mike, I arrived at a distant town a day early for the match. So, I went to the range to visit with campers... I saw the club president shoot through in Keds and shorts. Others were also wearing Outlawed clothes. Shame on them! Regards, Allie Mo PS This was a State Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckaroo #13080 Regulator Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Personally, I don't see that as any great loss. I've gone so far as to offer drastic physical modifications to ANYONE who might suggest that one of our clubs' MD & scorekeeper would even THINK of doing anything improper, whether in regard to stage design/setup or match procedures (both were muliple State & Regional Champs at the time). IMO - There is no such thing as a "GF-UNfriendly" stage...there are options within the category regs that specifically address split revolver scenarios. A Gunfighter is expected to adapt accordingly. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Mike #8595 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Hi Mike, I arrived at a distant town a day early for the match. So, I went to the range to visit with campers... I saw the club president shoot through in Keds and shorts. Others were also wearing Outlawed clothes. Shame on them! Regards, Allie Mo PS This was a State Championship. there were other out of staters that showed up and saw the same thing think they were from Montana and they did say something,,,,, no-protest just be-wildered sum-thin like.................. (as they walked back to their rv) "is that how u-awl doo things around here????? hummmmmmm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korupt Karl Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 That comment was a response to the following info provided by the OP in a later post: ...and I often DO shoot Gunfighter (preferably with BP). Please refer to post #34. I do respect you and what you do on the wire, but if you shot GF all the time at all the state and above shoots as a lot of the GF'ers do, then it would be different in my opinion. I think that there is still a resentment by a lot of shooters and stage writers toward GF'ers.....and I don't know why. Looking at world and Nat'l championship I don't recall them being dominated by GF'ers. We don't mind the ocassional split pistol...just give us a staging area....but 4 or 5 split pistols isn't right. Nor is split pistols with a long gun in between and both pistols a "dump". It's funny, once the trend went to S X S shotguns....all of a sudden shotgun targets are even numbered to be "fair". While we aren't a whinny group, we are smaller than the majority and are sometimes looked at as having some sort of advantage.....if a stage is GF friendly it's usually friendly for all shooters....split pistols generally favor the tradional and the duelist. Just my too scents. KK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Mike #8595 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I do respect you and what you do on the wire, but if you shot GF all the time at all the state and above shoots as a lot of the GF'ers do, then it would be different in my opinion. I think that there is still a resentment by a lot of shooters and stage writers toward GF'ers.....and I don't know why. Looking at world and Nat'l championship I don't recall them being dominated by GF'ers. We don't mind the ocassional split pistol...just give us a staging area....but 4 or 5 split pistols isn't right. Nor is split pistols with a long gun in between and both pistols a "dump". It's funny, once the trend went to S X S shotguns....all of a sudden shotgun targets are even numbered to be "fair". While we aren't a whinny group, we are smaller than the majority and are sometimes looked at as having some sort of advantage.....if a stage is GF friendly it's usually friendly for all shooters....split pistols generally favor the tradional and the duelist. Just my too scents. KK wow you shudda ben a gunfighter form the first day it was born most clubs did NOT even allow it on their range talk bout resent-ment the ones that did, well????? they usually wrote againt gf-ers overall then we had to carry a qualifing card (real deal) and I went to clubs that did not accept mine they said anyone cudda printed that BEFORE THE GUNFIGHTER category most stages were written with a long gun between pistols thats just the way it waz, ----------so perhaps------ just that simple change ment catering to gunfighters hence resentmint I am proud to have ridden the gunfighter range from its first day and I helped tex and others to make it the success it has today things these days (for gf-ers) really rock compared to the wagon ruted trails we rode ta git hare at my peak, I won my statechampionship overall as a gf, and it had two split pistol stages I one my regionioal shoot top 5 over all as a gf with split pistol stages, in the match I won utah black powder state championship overall, as a gf I won the alaska territorial match over all once apon a time as a gunfighter my point is, ya dont have to have all stages with pistols back to back to rockk ya didnt have to break the two shots at one time rule for entertainment purposes either----to rock at Gunfighter folks just write stages that are NOT set out to hurt any one or group specificly pre-shoots, always open the door to folks wondering about many different things so give that some thought just say thanks all of the folks that put on shoots it often times includes more than just borad members (or at least it should) shucks they need the help and I have never been called on breaking the gunfighter rule for time between shots, for the counters to tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 We don't mind the ocassional split pistol...just give us a staging area....but 4 or 5 split pistols isn't right. Nor is split pistols with a long gun in between and both pistols a "dump". KK I thought shooting left handed was bad..(stages written for righties) shooting left handed AND being a GF is worse. Even worse is a left handed GF AND shooting a 97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I do respect you and what you do on the wire, but if you shot GF all the time at all the state and above shoots as a lot of the GF'ers do, then it would be different in my opinion. ... KK Howdy KK, Please clear your inbox...trying to send a PM. Rgds, PWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Mike #8595 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Hi Mike, I arrived at a distant town a day early for the match. So, I went to the range to visit with campers... I saw the club president shoot through in Keds and shorts. Others were also wearing Outlawed clothes. Shame on them! Regards, Allie Mo PS This was a State Championship. yupp I know.... folks putting on state chamionship shoots need to give considerable toughts as to the contract they sign with SASS the contract states among other things that the sponsering club must obey and enforce current SASS rules not just the rules they like! I have read these contracts and signed them as well so I understand what they say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Hi Mike, I arrived at a distant town a day early for the match. So, I went to the range to visit with campers... I saw the club president shoot through in Keds and shorts. Others were also wearing Outlawed clothes. Shame on them! Regards, Allie Mo PS This was a State Championship. Shooting in costume is part of the game...those folks should have been MDQ'd. Sooooo....no one said a dang thing????? Those folks should have been shamed into doing the right thing...IMNSHO. Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Shooting in costume is part of the game...those folks should have been MDQ'd. Sooooo....no one said a dang thing????? Those folks should have been shamed into doing the right thing...IMNSHO. Phantom Hi Phantom, One of the club's officers mentioned it to the Board and was told to "lighten up..." Regards, Allie Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Hi Phantom, One of the club's officers mentioned it to the Board and was told to "lighten up..." Regards, Allie Mo Hell...if I had the money...I'd get a big old billboard made up with their faces on it and tell world that they are all a bunch of CHEATERS!!!! Cuz that exactly what they are!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bard Eye SASS 30526 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I was at the State match Wogg is talking about and I am here to tell you it was one of the best matches yet. It was well thought out with no "P" traps.The stages were simple and easy to explain. I am sorry that a very few Cowboys/Cowgirls were upset about this well planed and executed shoot.The shooting was great, the food was fantastic and being surrounded by some of the best Cowboys/Cowgirls in the sport was truely a grand experience that I will never forget.I would not change a thing. In fact if Wogg does not write the stages I propably won't come. Not because I think some else wouldn't or couldn't do as good or maybe better job than Wogg just because I don't like sour grapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBuckhorn Bill Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 The state matches that I have been to all the stages have been posted on the clubs website about a week before the match. This gives everyone a chance to look them over. No complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBuckhorn Bill Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 The state matches that I have been to all the stages have been posted on the clubs website about a week before the match. This gives everyone a chance to look them over. No complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mizpah Pete Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Had to show support for Wogg. I shot in this match this year and to show how well written it was in 2 days I had no Ps and 2 misses. Anyone who has shot with me will tell you the stages had to be simple to understand. I quess I must not be[ getting paid as much to shoot] as the sour grapes clan.I am there to have fun and be somewhat competative and that is how the stages were written. Shot in our 2 day shoot in Jerome this year on Woggs posse and he has no airs about him even with us slower shooters. I figure someday he will drop a gun P 3or4 stages and I will beat him.He also wins down here where we write the stages.Go WOGG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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