Lazarus Longshot, SASS #44254 Life Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I would swear that last year I read something to the effect that a 12 gauge single-shot shotgun, with external hammer and an ejector, was legal in all categories. I cannot find anything on this in the current manuals. Was I dreaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 SHB p.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Longshot, SASS #44254 Life Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Thanks, PaleWolf, but I had found the rule on ejectors. What I'm looking for is the legality of the single shot shtogun in all categories, e.g., Frontier Cartridge, Frontier Cartridge Duelist, etc. Like I posted originally, I really thought I read something about this last year. Another pard I know remembers it, too, so did the rules change back, or was this left out of the new manuals? Or are we both nuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 As per the rule book, these categories exclude using a single-barrel break-open shotgun, because they ONLY permit the shotgun types listed in the category: FC and FCD - Must use a side-by-side or lever action shotgun in the main match stages (page 14) Frontiersman - Must use a side-by-side or lever action shotgun in the main match stages. (page 14) Classic Cowboy/girl - SASS–legal external hammer double barrel or lever actions. (page 14) Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 The clarification that you likely recall was that made at the last Summit allowing single-shot SGs in PLAINSMAN. That was an oversight when they were FINALLY added to the list of legal firearms. It appears that adding them to the list for the other BP categories was also overlooked (as GJ points out) ...I thought we'd covered that one as well. I'll see what can be done in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fillmore Coffins, SASS #7884 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I would swear that last year I read something to the effect that a 12 gauge single-shot shotgun, with external hammer and an ejector, was legal in all categories. I cannot find anything on this in the current manuals. Was I dreaming? BTW, it doesn't have to have an external hammer. Fillmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepnmud#33546 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 got one of these, no ejector tho. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/stepnmud/WP_000271.jpg?t=1333678755 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 got one of these, no ejector tho. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/stepnmud/WP_000271.jpg?t=1333678755 ...... under this side of tha swimmin' hole one those could get you 14years in "The Greybar Hotel" ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Houston # 35508 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Don't think it's legal here either!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 As long as the barrel is 18" long and the OAL is 27" then a pistol grip sg like that is perfectly legal in the good ole USA. If you give tribute money to the Treasury you can have as short a barrel as ye like. I got confused. Was the question ever answered about a single shot being allowed in all categories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Woodrow Cahill, SASS # 54363 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 The clarification that you likely recall was that made at the last Summit allowing single-shot SGs in PLAINSMAN. That was an oversight when they were FINALLY added to the list of legal firearms. It appears that adding them to the list for the other BP categories was also overlooked (as GJ points out) ...I thought we'd covered that one as well. I'll see what can be done in that regard. And I just picked up this one ... http://www.gunrunnerauctions.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=1017087536 ... 'cause I thought it was legal. Plus there's the oddball gun fun factor too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Houston # 35508 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 OK, Why?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I got confused. Was the question ever answered about a single shot being allowed in all categories? Ummmmm, see post 4. It is currently not legal per the written rules in three categories. And PWB is working with Rules Committee to make it legal for those. That answer is pending. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Thanks, Joe. Here I was thinkin' single shots with ejectors and with or without hammers were already legal in all categories. So hopefully they soon will be I'm sure. Cannot imagine anyone having any problem with it. Cap Woody, if you got that SuperSingle for that price you stole it and done good. I have one but it is super slow. Much slower than my gamer H&R/NEFs and Baikal single shots. Wouldn't be so bad if ya didn't have to thumb cock the hammer too as well as levering it. I am on the look-out for a Deerslayer with rifle sights if anyone is willing to turn loose of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manassas Jack Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 The way I read PWBs answer was that they are legal and that they just overlooked listing them in the rule book. PWB please state it plain for us simple folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Since The Big Shakeup, I've used a single shot hammergun in Classic, Frontiersman, B-Western, and Frontier Cartridge with no complaints. I'm pretty sure they're legal in ALL categories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 The way I read PWBs answer was that they are legal and that they just overlooked listing them in the rule book. PWB please state it plain for us simple folks. SINGLE-SHOT shotguns are legal in ALL categories. Classic Cowboy/Cowgirl should require an external HAMMER (same criteria as for the SxS). BTW - Cutting the stock down to a pistol-grip is an ILLEGAL external modification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepnmud#33546 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Now that PWB has settled the single shot shot gun in categories question. here's Stumpy with a sort of modified sxs butt stock at about 4 minutes into the video clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I never did understand what happened to his shotgun... used it for a cane maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 ...& Sidney Poitier used a pair of sawed off OU's in "Buck and the Preacher" (@ :22 & 1:29) ...but they ain't legal for SASS competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Woodrow Cahill, SASS # 54363 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Cap Woody, if you got that SuperSingle for that price you stole it and done good. Sure did. Auction sites are dangerous - you always find something that you just can't do without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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