Ivery Keys #11974 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I actually thought about posting this on the Classified section, it might be better served there, but...I recently inherited a shotgun which has documentation that it was used in a crime/murder. Does this increase or decrease the value any? thanks in advance, Ivery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Buffalo Chip, SASS #64713 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Howdy Ivery, I would imagine the increase would depend on who the shooter or shootee was, or which bank or train was robbed. jmho WBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Hi Ivery, On Pawn Stars and Antiques Roadshow, documentation of important or notorious events increases value. So, if you have a copy of a police report identifying the gun by serial number and a newspaper clip of the event, I would expect that the value would be higher than without them. Also, what WBC said. Regards, Allie "who loves those shows" Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olen Rugged Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Context, notoriety, condition, the players in attendance at the auction, all play a part in the valuation of a historic firearm. The better the story the better the value. What is the story? Olen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bugscuffle Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 If it was the St. Valentines Day massacre or The great train robbery or a Presidential assasination, yes. Other than that probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 +1 GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Howdy Only if it can be documented that the gun was used in a case of historic significance. I attended an auction on Saturday, and this Winchester Model 1866 went for $65,000, because it had lots of documentation proving that it had belonged to a famous outlaw. Bill Doolin Winchester 1866 Another 1866 in about the same condition went for $4000. Unfortunately, although the victim might object, collectors are not interested in guns used during the commission of a crime unless it was a historically significant crime or a famous person was involved and provenance can be demonstrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivery Keys #11974 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share Posted March 28, 2012 Good enough, thanks for the replies. It is a High Standard Pump I believe Huntsman model. It was used in a home defense situation back in the 1960's where the criminal was killed. Have the police report which mentions the shotgun by model and serial #. It is not worth much to begin with, just did not know where to value the thing... Thanks again, Ivery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal barnes sass #5792 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 A High Standard Huntsman Model, in good condition, is worth about $200. The documentation would make it worth about $200.00.......................... unless someone famous was shot or doing the shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Put it on Gun Broker and see what the highest bidder will pay for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pay Dirt Norvelle #90056 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 It is possible that it might incrase the value only for historical purposes. I happen to own a revolver that was used in a 187 (Murder) in California. It is a bit of a story how I got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tennessee Stud, SASS# 43634 Life Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Yes. ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Ray Hality, SASS# 37355 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 well, notoriety will be key. about 8 to 10 years ago one of my friends purchased a gun that was used in a suicide. he had trouble selling it for what he paid for it. my friend bought it at a fair price and could not turn a profit on it. he moved away so i don't know if he still has it or not. as the story goes, some young troubled guy, drove into PA, stopped at a range, rented a S&W revolver, a box of ammo, went into the range, loaded one bullet, put the gun to his head and fired. he dies 2 minutes later. lots of witnesses (including LEOs) cause the place was busy. he was a nobody with a problem. the police notched the gun and eventually gave it back to the range owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacknife Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Seems as though the Saturday Nite Special that Jack Ruby used to shoot Oswald has more than doubled in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Seems as though the Saturday Nite Special that Jack Ruby used to shoot Oswald has more than doubled in price. A Colt revolver is NOT a "Saturday Nite Special" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacknife Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 A Colt revolver is NOT a "Saturday Nite Special" It is if ya use it on Saturday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 "That" Colt(Ruby's)was used on a Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacknife Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 "That" Colt(Ruby's)was used on a Sunday How do ya know it wasn't used on Saturday night also, just to make sure it shot straight? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Gregg Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 :FlagAm: :FlagAm: We used to have a guy in our outfit who worked for the Omaha PD. His job was to destroy all confiscated firearms used in crimes. I think that is stupid as hell. They did not even strip any parts off of them. He was telling how he had cut a like new S&W 629 up with a torch. He didn't feel bad about it. He thought he was doing a good deed. There are some PD's that actually auction off confiscated guns. This makes money to fund the department. Mustang Gregg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Ray Hality, SASS# 37355 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Seems as though the Saturday Nite Special that Jack Ruby used to shoot Oswald has more than doubled in price. Yup, Ruby and Oswald are notorious for sure. Hence, more $$$ for the murder weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Nathan C. Riddles, SASS # 7462 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Jack Ruby used a Colt Cobra in 38 spl to kill Oswald on 11-24-63. Earl Ruby (Jack's brother) sold that gun for $220,000.00 at auction on 12-26-91. The purchaser was collector Anthony V. Pugliese III of Delray Beach Florida. Don't know if he still owns it though. That sure ain't no Saturday night special. The Cobra is an alloy version of the Detective Special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacknife Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 For $220,000, I'd call it my "Sunday Go TO Meetin Special". It was sold again not too long ago if I remember correctly, dunno the price tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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