Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Took the Mad Russian and the 11-87 to the range this afternoon and popped off some of the roll your own shotgun shells I made last month. Every thing worked just fine. Had a little more pop that I thought but is was not bad. Should take the knock downs ok. I did notice that the primer on the 11-87 was not a dented as the Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Good news! I'm planning on testing some of mine a week from tomorrow. Going to take a Saturday off from working on my mother in laws house and go shoot a match. I think I have a box and a half of factory shells left that I'll take along just in case there is a problem with the ones I made, but I doubt there will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 BMC What are you gonna use as an EXCUSE for missing now ? MOON PHASE , thats it CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I have a talent for missing shotgun targets. At CaC it went from a talent to a full blown epidemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Grizz I want to shoot the Chicken coop as an ALL shotgun stage What do you think of that plan ? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Works for me, I had trouble hitting them dang things this past CaC. All in all I shot the worst match I've shot since my first year in the game, but I still had a ton of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Ya don't need to hit the targets to have fun. Chickasaw, I am so good at missing targets, I just plain don't need no excuse. Every body expects it. When I go to the line and shoot, when I come to the KDs the next shooter steps to the line ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Hey badger, I forgot, what kinda powder you use in them shells? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Clays and #8 shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 yeah, that's what I'm using too I think, either 8 or 7.5 I don't remember. I have one box with less that optimal crimps I want to use up first, hope the crimps don't come undone with the shells in my belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 I fiddled long and hard with my crimps but the last ones looked almost professional. I think the difference was because I was using less lead than the original shells had. But the crimp pedals all meet in the middle and there is no gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 My problem was a total brain fart. The instructions for the lee load all told you how to position the shell in the pre crimp stage. I got it backwards for a while before I broke out the distructions and realized I'd forgotten since I'd started out a few days earlier. I have many in that one box that you can see a BB in the middle of the crimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 I have some like that in an old coffee can. I don't know what to do with them. Will try to reclaim the shot and maybe the shot wad. Powder is most likely contaminated. I think I can resize the hull with the primer in, then re load it and crimp, so maybe I can salvage them. Don't have all that many, maybe a box at the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I may just set that box aside and take them up to the mountains for general target practice, less chance the shot will run out or crimp will open up that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama Red Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 If you've got a LOW TEMP glue gun, you can put just the slightest dab of glue in the center. It'll keep your crimp from opening up any more and also keep the shot from running out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Thanks for the tip, Red. But somehow, some of the shot has already run out. I am shotless in Seattle. I think I would feel better about just reconstruction at this part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 BMC I have not had much luck at redoing shotshell , Might as well fire them to save the hulls , trying to disassamble them does not work for me CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Hawk 60642 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Thanks for the tip, Red. But somehow, some of the shot has already run out. I am shotless in Seattle. I think I would feel better about just reconstruction at this part. Badger, have ya tryed a shot card on yur shot just before ya crimp ? I reload both brass shells and plastic hulls and that is what I do. No shot will come out. If you what to water proof yur shells, place a shot card over yur powder charge. Would'nt affect yur shot shell at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kajun Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 yeah, that's what I'm using too I think, either 8 or 7.5 I don't remember. I have one box with less that optimal crimps I want to use up first, hope the crimps don't come undone with the shells in my belt I gimped a crimp and got cramps in ma hand!! Griz I have a bunch of shells with "less than optimal" crimps. I have some like that in an old coffee can. I don't know what to do with them. Will try to reclaim the shot and maybe the shot wad. Powder is most likely contaminated. I think I can resize the hull with the primer in, then re load it and crimp, so maybe I can salvage them. Don't have all that many, maybe a box at the most. BMC, I've decided to just shoot up all my "less than optimal crimps." It's a whole heap more fun than trying to disassemble them. Might just use them for pra***ce one afternoon! I think some of my AA hulls are a little shorter than others....I've heard that someplace. If they are a little shorter there's less material to form the "optimal" crimp that we all strive for. I'll have to run that down....seem to recall that older AA's might be a little bit shorter...something like that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Badger, have ya tryed a shot card on yur shot just before ya crimp ? I reload both brass shells and plastic hulls and that is what I do. No shot will come out. If you what to water proof yur shells, place a shot card over yur powder charge. Would'nt affect yur shot shell at all. That is a good idea, Hawk. I have the crimp worked out pretty well but I am loading less shot than the original loading in the shell at the factor. I will keep an eye on them, and if I see any degradation. I will measure the depression to see how thick I need the shot card. I suppose a 20 gauge would be better or what? I gimped a crimp and got cramps in ma hand!! Griz I have a bunch of shells with "less than optimal" crimps. BMC, I've decided to just shoot up all my "less than optimal crimps." It's a whole heap more fun than trying to disassemble them. Might just use them for pra***ce one afternoon! I think some of my AA hulls are a little shorter than others....I've heard that someplace. If they are a little shorter there's less material to form the "optimal" crimp that we all strive for. I'll have to run that down....seem to recall that older AA's might be a little bit shorter...something like that anyway. I am concerned that shooting them without a full charge of shot might not be the safest thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oklahomabound Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Took the Mad Russian and the 11-87 to the range this afternoon and popped off some of the roll your own shotgun shells I made last month. Every thing worked just fine. Had a little more pop that I thought but is was not bad. Should take the knock downs ok. I did notice that the primer on the 11-87 was not a dented as the Russian. ...let me load them thar shotshells for ya... ...mine go boom too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 I'm gonna quit using them primer thingys, OKB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Hawk 60642 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Depends on what gauage you shoot. I shoot a 12 gauage so I use 11 gauage over shot card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Depends on what gauage you shoot. I shoot a 12 gauage so I use 11 gauage over shot card. So they fit on top of the shot cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I may just set that box aside and take them up to the mountains for general target practice, less chance the shot will run out or crimp will open up that way. Sounds like a good plan. I take all of my "goobers" to the range for practice. Usually load about 500 or so rounds at a pop and will end up with a box of em that don't pass the chamber check, have a hole in the center, splits in the crimp folds or a misfolded crimp. They all go boom and work good in place of first quality match ammo. Looking forward to seeing ya at the Pawnee reopening. Regards Gateway Kid BTW I have never had a crimp reopen or lost enough shot that it would not take down a KD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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