BigBootsWilly Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Roaring River is just up the road apiece , it is a trort hatchery and fishery run by the Mo state DNR . I have not been up there in the last 2 years , been down with med issues . I hope they put some Browns in the lower fly only area , they are a lot of fun when you can get em to come to a bettle or an ant . I like to see em splash . I have had lots of 50 fish days up there , you can keep 5 , so I will string 4 , then go play catch and release , Mom likes fresh trout when I smoke them . We do not have much in the way of wild trout streams here , we do have warm water fish smallmouth bass , pan fish , ect . in our streams and rivers . White Bass should be moving in the tribituarys to the lakes , the hybreds and small stripped bass will run with them so it can get interesting if you have then take a swipe at you thinking you are playing with a couple of pound fish when it is a lot bigger fish , largest fish on a fly rod is an 18 3/4 lb stripe . WE have been having lots of wind so the 2 wt will probley stay in the truck , I will have the 2 and both 4 wts , an 8 ft and the 6 1/2 ft small stream rod . Hope the wind stay down , i may throw the 8ft 6 wt in just in case . CB Sounds like a good trip. Good luck. Keep your line tight and your backcast out of the trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Well, I woke up to about an inch of new snow this morning. So today I will start on the trout reels and lines and then maybe take Jack up to the river to check it out. It was way down the other day but looks like it is coming back up. I check the station at Gold Bar every morning on the computer. Might tie a few fish dredgers tonight. Got a new pattern I want to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBootsWilly Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 It's sunny and clear in the upper teens here. I think you might like checking out www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/62202.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint McCloud 3103L Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 So BMC... you're telling me that if I were take your little red snow shovel and tie my shoe laces end-to-end off'n the handle, use a marshmallow as a bobber, and bend a paper clip into a hook, I couldn't come and play with you boys...??? Boy howdy, that sounds purty toney and elitest to me... Vaya con Dios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 I am an elitist. I only have good people as friends. If you think you can catch fish with the rest of us fly chuckers, jump in. You got some great water down that way. Zane Grey fished the Rogue for many years. I think he wrote a book or sang with the RIDERS OF THE PURPLE SAGE, or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 BMC is that anything like the 60s book , RIDERS IN A PURPLE HAZE CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uno Mas SASS #80082 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 My Father was full Apache. Mom is Irish and German.................................................. Guess dat's makes me a mutt ........................wif one very nasty temper ! ! Pshaw... That make you 'merican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Well the FISHIN trip may have to be put off due to RAIN and WIND May just have to make more flys , got the last 2 years worth still waiting to be used CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Well.... I've resisted looking at this thread for quite some time now 'cause I suspected it was what it is. My fishing system is simpler and more efficient. I'm with Bama on this. You guys have fun and stay outta' trouble!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBootsWilly Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Nice here today, high 50s, sunny but windy. Did a little shooting today testing some new reloads. I plan to fish tomorrow. BD - Just so you know fly fishing is as simple or as complicated you want to make it. A big plus is you never have to worry about bait. CB - What kinds of flies do you tie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Sir I tye most everything , wets ,wollys, floss flys , drys , Trout Bugs , just the run of the mill stuff . I have quit tying hackle tio wings in the drys , they do not seem to make any differance here , plus they are a lot easier to tye . Do a bunch of ODD stuff , I have come up with , not on the books , but it works well . Some folks LAUGH at what they see , until they see how well it does . I can carry enough stuff it fish for the day in my shirt pocket , A wallet for wets , a small box for drys , a spool of tippet , and a set of hemostats . I ditched the vest years ago , CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Well, my cable has been out most of the day so I spent the time napping and working on my reel drag. Got a little 5/6 System 2L Scientific anglers reel that I use for flat water trolling with a float tube. In case it goes over the side it is not one of my Hardys. Last time I cleaned it I got it back together wrong and the drag didn't work. Well today I took it apart and spent the better part of the afternoon studying it. Now that sucker will stop an Orca. Phones were out too. Got them back on line. The electron gnomes must be POed at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBootsWilly Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 CB, I buy more than tie.... but do tie some midges and also tie my own concoction for local streams. It has a green floss body with a Peacock herl head. I also tie it using a black bead for the head so it goes deeper quicker. It works good on the small creeks around here. BMC, hope you didn't get the effects of that big solar flare they're talking about. Son in Alaska called earlier and told us about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 I have been checking out Davie MacPhail on U tube. He is quite a bug dresser. I am going to try a couple of his patterns. I like his caddis pupa pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 BBW Just like shooting , If I did not do most of it myself , I would not get to play much . guess that is why , I have developed cheap and simple ways to get by . You might try doing up something like an ADAMS except use peacock for the body , I use peacock if I want a bit more FLASH . Something else differant is to use glass beads insted of metal , I have also used plastic beads to make a simplefied edd sucking leach lots of simple changes to do it cheaper than fly shop materals , Folks get tied to , it has to be just like the book , if there is much pressure on the fish , they have seen all the reguular stuff , Change it up and they will come over to take a l@@k . Once you get them to move , they are easy to hook up CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBootsWilly Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 One of my favorites is a bright green LaFontaine Sparkle Caddis Pupa. I fish them as two fly rig with one on a dropper. They're deadly in the Beaverkill's pocket water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 This here one looks to be a good stream fly this summer when the caddis are on the water. Or just before. Forgot the link. Also google in Davie McPhale's Irish cormorant. Looks like that could work just about anywhere there is still water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Wah HOO Good l@@kin flys , I just can not get to doing anything this week oh well , there is always another day CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 This guy is good. Check him out on Google. I picked up some tricks that he puts out. Makes some buggy bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 BMC the way the day is going , I can break an ANVEL with a pinfeather CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Turn the torque off. Turn the finesse on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBootsWilly Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Got out fishing for a few hours today. The trout were not in a cooperative mood and spurned my offerings. Anyways, it was still nice to get on the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 I took Momma and the dog to the river today. It is closed but I wanted to see how it was running. Looks a bit high and and off color and we are expecting more rain tomorrow. I got a good idea for a stillwater fly. I think I will tye some up tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Well , We have had thunder , rain , sleet and SNOW here today maybe the weekend will be better . CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 BMC Have ya ever noticed a box of HOOKS , has a lot more in it whaen ya DROP it ? Mr Magnet , is your friend CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 Just walk around barefooted for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBootsWilly Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 It was in the 50s yesterday but it's in the 20s with snow flurries today. I'm gonna sit down and tie up some Copper Johns and some Midge nymphs today if I can find my magnifier glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 Well, I am off to the sawbones today for an interview. I got an internal scope coming up later this month. I doubt that the stuff I get to drink will taste like beer or Mac. Ughhh. I was going through my fly tying stuff last night. I came across all sorts of stuff that I never use. If you fellows have a need for it, It will try to catalog it and send it to you. I know I have a patch of black bear that I never use. I don't even know of a pattern that calls for it. DOH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 BMC Ya gotta tell the story of HOW ya got the bear Hair , BET Mr Bear was NOT too happy about that CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 Probably not, but all I did was walk into the Avid Angler and plop down a few shillings. It is a very small patch. Mr. Black Bear probably was not happy about it tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBootsWilly Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 You ought to create a fly using it. Think up some fancy, catchy name for it and become famous as it's originator. Maybe something like "Badger Mountain Charlie's Bear A-- Barracuda Bug" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 BMC How about BEAR-y a fly ? BEARe ugly ? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Yesterday, it was sorta slow, what with me suffering with a sore throat and stuffed nose. So I too the little Scientific angler reel apart and cleaned it and reassembled it. Last time I had it apart I must have re assembled it incorrectly. Anyway the reel drag didn't work correctly. So I went to work and found the problem. When I got it back together I was surprised at the amount of drag it has. For an inexpensive reel it has some guts. I am wondering why they don't market it more than they do. It has an interesting price point as reels go these days. It reminds me a great deal of the Medalist classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBootsWilly Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 "Medalist".. was that made by Pfleuger? I have a couple of old "Finalist" models made by South Bend. Got em a long time ago. Kinda favor the Orvis Battenkill Bar Stock models now and I have a Ross "Cimarron" #2 that I really like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Yep, the pflueger medalist, made with an adjustable shoe brake on it. They were well made but cheap. I believe that they were a painted aluminum construction. Came in various sizes. I think they used them for salmon in the streams at one time. At least for jack salmon. When flyfishing became so popular back in the'70s, they went to a more sophisticated bar stock aluminum construction. Of course the price went way up, we are talking about guys that fished in the tropics on lush islands that could afford them. I am still trying to understand the Abel color reel system of color anodizing the reels to match the fish's color. That is a bit over the top for me. I guess what ever sells. I love my Hardys, but I have to admit that they are a bit dated. But they still sell. I think they sent manufacturing to the East so I do not know how that will work out. Mine are all made in Alnwick England. Now all I need is one of those Holland and Holland SXS or O/U and I can pose as an English Duke. All I need in a fly reel is for it to go around when the fish runs. I seldom catch BIG fish. He77, I seldom catch fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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