Henry is making a new SASS rifle

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

After reading a post here on the wire I called Henry Firearms .

The man I spoke with was very polite and advised me that Yes we are making a new SASS Rifle.

 

It will be out before the end of 2012 .

They are making a 1860, American made Brass Framed 44/40.

 

I did ask about other calibers .

They said it is going to start out as a 45/70 and then a 44/40.

 

Other calibers will be in the works.

 

OK , SO Let the Pissing match began !!!!

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[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967]

Hunh....???

[Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L]

After reading a post here on the wire I called Henry Firearms .

The man I spoke with was very polite and advised me that Yes we are making a new SASS Rifle.

 

It will be out before the end of 2012 .

They are making a 1860, American made Brass Framed 44/40.

 

I did ask about other calibers .

They said it is going to start out as a 45/70 and then a 44/40.

 

Other calibers will be in the works.

 

OK , SO Let the Pissing match began !!!!

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45/70?? in a Henry? are ya sure??

 

anyway, I really like that if it happens in a pistol cartridge - will get one.

 

Lovin' my daughters 22 Youth Model Lever action

 

 

GG ~

[Prof. Fuller Bullspit]

Could be interesting. I'd love to support another American gun company who makes products that work in our game.

 

I'm a bit concerned about a gun that will be in .45-70 and .44-40. If it is the same frame/linkage it may work well for one, but probably not for the other!

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

Could be interesting. I'd love to support another American gun company who makes products that work in our game.

 

I'm a bit concerned about a gun that will be in .45-70 and .44-40. If it is the same frame/linkage it may work well for one, but probably not for the other!

I am under the understanding from the conversation with him ,that the Rifle first be out in 45/70

Then a new Rifle in 44/40 by the end of the year .

I asked and requested for other calibers and he said good things are in the works for Henry Arms .

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[Gold Canyon Kid #43974]

Sounds like more BS to me from Henry. Wonder when the ads will come out saying it is already SASS approved? Wonder when the head of the company will come on the Wire and lie to us again?

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

Sounds like more BS to me from Henry. Wonder when the ads will come out saying it is already SASS approved? Wonder when the head of the company will come on the Wire and lie to us again?

Like I said ,let the pissing began !

[Ranger Sgt. Jake McCandless #3368]

The same frame/receiver will not function properly for both calibers,one or the other but not both. Adios Sgt. Jake

[Ranger Sgt. Jake McCandless #3368]

Like I said ,let the pissing began !

If you had been here when they pulled the stunt they did you may feel differently. Adios Sgt.Jake

[Garrison Joe, SASS #60708]

45/70?? in a Henry? are ya sure??

 

Yeah, I could believe they would start producing a .45 Colt in a true Henry design, but not .45-70. One of those sources of rumor is not speaking or hearing clearly, I'll wager.

 

Good luck, GJ

[Gold Canyon Kid #43974]

You would think a company like Henry would do a better market research job. Just how many 1860 Henrys has Uberti sold compared to 66/73s for example? I do not believe an 1860 Henry action will take a 45-70 load, something is fishy here.

[Llama Ron]

If you had been here when they pulled the stunt they did you may feel differently. Adios Sgt.Jake

 

 

I'm ignorant....do tell.

[Garrison Joe, SASS #60708]

Maybe a matter of "pride" now, now that SASS members have complained for years about how they are not really making a Henry rifle (with the BB). So, use close to the same internals for all three, with a Henry clone first, then 73 and 66 look-almost-likes later. ????

 

Anyway, most of us might actually start paying attention when they have a working prototype at a Shot Show or SASS Convention.

 

Good luck, GJ

[Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L]

Like I said ,let the pissing began !

 

Some folks have an endless supply of piss

 

GG ~

[Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L]

Maybe a matter of "pride" now, now that SASS members have complained for years about how they are not really making a Henry rifle (with the BB). So, use close to the same internals for all three, with a Henry clone first, then 73 and 66 look-almost-likes later. ????

 

Anyway, most of us might actually start paying attention when they have a working prototype at a Shot Show or SASS Convention.

 

Good luck, GJ

 

I, for one, hope this is a reality ~ would be

 

GG ~

[Butcher Brinkworth]

Some folks have an endless supply of piss

 

GG ~

 

The trick is emptying out enough bottles so you have somewhere to put it while you're on the road.

[H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619]

Interesting...

 

If it really is a .45-70, it would seem to me that it would have to be scaled up bigger, akin to how a Winchester 76 is an upscaled 73.

 

On the other hand, if there has been a mis-speak or a mis-hear and it's in .45 Colt, then it could very well be in a standard sized 1860 frame.

 

IF the Henry company is indeed making a true 1860 Henry, I would seriously consider buying one. Since I already have an Uberti in .44-40, one of these in .45 would be a nice thing to have.

 

And, if it IS an 1860 Henry, it is already a SASS approved design.

 

This will be worth watching.

[Ranger Sgt. Jake McCandless #3368]

Some folks have an endless supply of piss

 

GG ~

Or a memory that goes further back than breakfast. Adios Sgt. Jake Edited February 17, 2012 by Ranger Sgt. Jake McCandless #3368

[Ranger Sgt. Jake McCandless #3368]

I'm ignorant....do tell.

The list is long but by advertising that the Big Pile was SASS approved when in fact it was not and took another two years too become approved.

I know what I call that, an outright Lie,JMO. Adios Sgt. Jake

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

After reading a post here on the wire I called Henry Firearms .

The man I spoke with was very polite and advised me that Yes we are making a new SASS Rifle.

 

It will be out before the end of 2012 .

They are making a 1860, American made Brass Framed 44/40.

 

I did ask about other calibers .

They said it is going to start out as a 45/70 and then a 44/40.

 

Other calibers will be in the works.

 

OK , SO Let the Pissing match began !!!!

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No "p"ing needed.

 

If not based on an existing approved design, it ain't 'automagically' going to be a new SASS rifle.

 

Would appreciate better intel when starting rumors.

[Anvil Al #59168]

No "p"ing needed.

 

If not based on an existing approved design, it ain't 'automagically' going to be a new SASS rifle.

 

Would appreciate better intel when starting rumors.

 

 

Yep. Before they start going around saying it's SASS approved. They better make sure this time.

They screwed it up with the BB.

Would love to see them make a GOOD SASS rifle.

But sounds like the are going to make something I have no use for.

I would think they would try and make something that would sell more.

Don't think people well be standing in line to buy the 45-70 or the 44-40

Very limited market on lever guns to start with. Let alone calibers that are just

not that popular.

 

 

Please Henrey Repeating Arms. Make a 66 or 73 that works. Think THEN you would have

something that would sell more.

 

Getting ready to buy another one of there .22's. Just as soon as the New Grandson in born (any day now)

Buying a Golden Boy .22 for all my Grandkids as soon as they are born.

[Bama Red]

 

Getting ready to buy another one of there .22's. Just as soon as the New Grandson in born (any day now)

Buying a Golden Boy .22 for all my Grandkids as soon as they are born.

 

What?!?! Ya ain't buyin' 'em for your granddaughters, too??? :lol:

 

Or do ya just have grandsons?

[Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L]

As mentioned I will be in line if it try is an 1860 Henry design in 44-40

 

Sturm is a stand up guy so if it is a rumor its coming from Henry Repeating Arms.

 

GG

[Jefro, SASS#69420]

 

Would appreciate better intel when starting rumors.[/b][/i]

Yep, I was thinking maybe I'd over slept and was April 1st I'll believe it when I see a press release from the company

 

 

Jefro Relax-Enjoy

[Anvil Al #59168]

What?!?! Ya ain't buyin' 'em for your granddaughters, too??? :lol:

 

Or do ya just have grandsons?

 

 

I sure will. Just don't have any of them YET.

Got another coming around the end of Aug. Don't know what that one is yet.

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

I talked to Henry today so if you wont to call it a roomer its Henry's roomer .

That was what I was told by Henry !

I personally hope Henry makes a Rifle for SASS shooters to Be Proud of.

We need to support American Company's.

If they are going to try to do it right , we need to support them !

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[Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283]

Howdy

 

Methinks something is rotten in Denmark. 45-70 is almost twice as long as 44-40. I would like to see a toggle link rifle with a carrier and frame that could handle both sizes.

 

The cartridges in this photo are, left to right, 44-40, 45-70, and 45 Colt.

 

Cartridges

[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

I would fully expect that the person at HRAC that Sturm talked to was an office worker or some such, not a gun person, and they said 45-70 when they should have said 45 Colt. It would make perfect sense for them to make the 45LC first since that is the most popular caliber in Uberti 1860's and follow with 44-40. Now if we could just get them to also make it in 44 Spcl

[Harvey Mushman]

I would fully expect that the person at HRAC that Sturm talked to was an office worker or some such, not a gun person, and they said 45-70 when they should have said 45 Colt. It would make perfect sense for them to make the 45LC first since that is the most popular caliber in Uberti 1860's and follow with 44-40. Now if we could just get them to also make it in 44 Spcl

 

 

+1 on the 45 Colt vs 45/70 (makes no sense). If they are truly going to introduce one in late 2012, then they've been at it for more than a year, and likely more, without ANY fanfare.

 

Suspect they'll hold they're press releases till they have working prototypes and submission to SASS. I think they have learned from mistakes (even the ones they maybe didn't do but are accused of), and will do this right.

 

It sure would explain their continued high level of support for SASS.

 

If they make one ('60) well in 44-40, I'll buy it, and if they follow with good 66 and 73, I'll probably need a new safe. They should look good with Red Wings alongside! :FlagAm:

 

harvey

Edited February 18, 2012 by Harvey Mushman

[Grizzly Adams 3674]

Big Boy in 45-70.

 

Now this little "roomer" as they say in Wyoming, seems to imply a copy of the 1860 Henry in 44WCF. Well, we are all waiting that event with bated breath!

[Col. Nathan C. Riddles, SASS # 7462]

Sturm got his original info from me, in a post I did over in the classifieds. He made a little mistake with the info he got from Henry. They are NOT making a 1860 Henry in 45-70. That rifle is intended primarily as a hunting rifle. They will bring it out first and then the 1860 Henry in 44-40 or 44WCF (same caliber but old name). I agree with GCK on research & devopment. Here's what I told them;

 

"You know making a replica 1860 Henry is not a bad idea. But if you're making it with cowboy action shooters as your main market target I'll go you one better. Most shooters shoot Uberti Winchester 73s, 66s or Marlin, or Rossi 92s. Calibers by popularity are 38 spl, 45 Colt and 44-40. The Henry takes special care when loading because if you let a round slide down the mag tube at too steep an angle it could travel too fast and impact the next round too hard and cause a magazine detonation causing injury or possibly death. I know of no deaths but there have been injuries. Make it first in 38/357 and I think it will take off like a plane. What we do need is reproduction Winchester 97 pump shotguns. Winchester stopped production in 1956 and aren't very likely to resume the same. The supply of real 97s is just about exhausted. The Chinese will not export less than 1600 guns in a shipment for some reason and getting an importer to buy that many at one time isn't going to happen. A new shooting venue has spun off from CAS called Wild Bunch based on the movie of the same name starring William Holden, Ben Johnson and Ernest Borgnine. In WB you shoot a 1911 Govt Model 45 acp, a 97 and a 92 (preferably, but any SASS legal rifle is acceptable). Theren't too many CAS shooters shooting WB partly because of the shortage of 97 shotguns. SASS has just approved the 93/97 (a model 97 with an ejection port widened like a model 93) for WB only."

Edited February 18, 2012 by Col. Nathan C. Riddles, SASS # 7462

[Harvey Mushman]

Sturm got his original info from me, in a post I did over in the classifieds. He made a little mistake with the info he got from Henry. They are NOT making a 1860 Henry in 45-70. That rifle is intended primarily as a hunting rifle. They will bring it out first and then the 1860 Henry in 44-40 or 44WCF (same caliber but old name). I agree with GCK on research & devopment. Here's what I told them;

 

"You know making a replica 1860 Henry is not a bad idea. But if you're making it with cowboy action shooters as your main market target I'll go you one better. Most shooters shoot Uberti Winchester 73s, 66s or Marlin, or Rossi 92s. Calibers by popularity are 38 spl, 45 Colt and 44-40. The Henry takes special care when loading because if you let a round slide down the mag tube at too steep an angle it could travel too fast and impact the next round too hard and cause a magazine detonation causing injury or possibly death. I know of no deaths but there have been injuries. Make it first in 38/357 and I think it will take off like a plane. What we do need is reproduction Winchester 97 pump shotguns. Winchester stopped production in 1956 and aren't very likely to resume the same. The supply of real 97s is just about exhausted. The Chinese will not export less than 1600 guns in a shipment for some reason and getting an importer to buy that many at one time isn't going to happen. A new shooting venue has spun off from CAS called Wild Bunch based on the movie of the same name starring William Holden, Ben Johnson and Ernest Borgnine. In WB you shoot a 1911 Govt Model 45 acp, a 97 and a 92 (preferably, but any SASS legal rifle is acceptable). Theren't too many CAS shooters shooting WB partly because of the shortage of 97 shotguns. SASS has just approved the 93/97 (a model 97 with an ejection port widened like a model 93) for WB only."

 

 

Agree with almost all above Col, except I haven't seen any shortage of '97s or copies thereof - for example, there were 3 in our local gun shop today at very reasonable prices and MANY on the internet auction sites), AND I want mine in 44-40 first, before the .38s

 

Harvey

Edited February 18, 2012 by Harvey Mushman

[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

There is a good reason that Uberti doesn't make the Henry in .38 Spcl.

[Gold Canyon Kid #43974]

Big Boy in 45-70.

 

 

That gun looks like a modern Marlin lever gun. It sure isn't a Henry 1860.

[Phantom, SASS #54973]

Agree with almost all above Col, except I haven't seen any shortage of '97s or copies thereof - for example, there were 3 in our local gun shop today at very reasonable prices and MANY on the internet auction sites), AND I want mine in 44-40 first, before the .38s

 

Harvey

 

Well...who's currently importing them?

 

Nobody?

 

Hmmmmm...might be a shortage coming.