RAWHIDE RED, SASS # 7076 L Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Any gunsmiths ever change a Stoeger or Baikal double trigger into a single trigger? If so, want to do another one? Rawhide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diablo slim shootist Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Why not just make a trade on the wire to someone who has one in single configuration? most shooters have had trouble with their single trigger Stoegers anyway.Gunslinger finnaly got my stoeger single to work but its an exception to the rule I think.I own a SKB now for a back-up just in case Your old pard Diablo P.S.(come shoot with us soon we got a lot of Greenhorns who need suff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Why not just make a trade on the wire to someone who has one in single configuration? most shooters have had trouble with their single trigger ones anyway.Gunslinger finnaly got my stoeger single to work but its an exception to the rule I think.I own a SKB now for a back-up just in case Your old pard Diablo P.S.(come shoot with us soon we got a lot of Greenhorns who need suff) Be careful making the statement "most shooters have had trouble with their single triggers". I for one have not! I have 2 SKB's that I have shot 1,000's of rounds thru without a problem. For that matter, I' don't remember anyone I know shooting Brownings or SKB's that have had a problem with the triggers. More a matter of quality of the gun me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Will Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Be careful making the statement "most shooters have had trouble with their single triggers". I for one have not! I have 2 SKB's that I have shot 1,000's of rounds thru without a problem. For that matter, I' don't remember anyone I know shooting Brownings or SKB's that have had a problem with the triggers. More a matter of quality of the gun me thinks. I had a SKB that would "DOUBLE" on me. Pull the trigger once and BOTH barrels would fire. Factory had to replace the trigger. On some of the 'new' single triggers, noticed one fellow who shot light loads and the initera trigger would no reset for the second shot. He had to 'bump' the stock to shoot the next round. What happens if the first round doesn't go off and there is no 'recoil' to reset the trigger for next round. Seen it happen more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Both of mine were set up by Johnny Meadows and if the triggers are set right, no problems. I have a high grade Spanish (AYA) sidelock double that started doubling on me. The trrggers were dirty after many years of use. Cleaned them up and no problems since. My Ruger O/U has had no problems as my Browning Superposed too. Once the triggers are set up properly for SASS shooting, no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Well, I believe it's safe to say that the lower end guns like Baikals and Stoegers have some real problems with their single trigger design. You would be trying to put a silk purse on that sow, trying to make a problematic design for single trigger work on those lower end shotguns. If you want a single trigger gun that works well, a BSS or SKB is REALLY the way to go. Then you have a top quality gun, with a good single trigger, that will run with no or very few bobbles. Just keep the loads heavy enough (7/8 ounce featherlite type velocity works in ours) to reset the Ithaca SKB's inertial trigger. You will likely spend less on an SKB than you do on a low end gun, trying to get a single trigger working, if it were originally built with a double trigger. Back in the early 1900s, shotgun gunsmiths would put in the type of trigger that a SxS shooter wanted (double, single, even a release). The price on getting that done usually doubled the price of the basic gun. And what do you end up with? A gun that costs like an SKB, but will be worn out in about 5 years of cowboy shooting. "When you don't see many other folks paddling their canoes in the direction you think you want to go, you ought to ask yourself if you really know what you're doing." Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueno del Diablo, SASS#22364L Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 On some of the 'new' single triggers, noticed one fellow who shot light loads and the initera trigger would no reset for the second shot. He had to 'bump' the stock to shoot the next round. What happens if the first round doesn't go off and there is no 'recoil' to reset the trigger for next round. Seen it happen more than once. If its that big a concern get a mechanical single trigger vice inertial. As for inertial triggers not working with very light loads, I've got a Browning Superlight in .410 that has been shot ALOT with 1/2oz skeet loads and never failed to set the second barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 If its that big a concern get a mechanical single trigger vice inertial. As for inertial triggers not working with very light loads, I've got a Browning Superlight in .410 that has been shot ALOT with 1/2oz skeet loads and never failed to set the second barrel. Like I said...they need to be setup correctly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Even the big name shotguns will not fire reliably with black powder. It seems the push is not sharp enough to fire them as designed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Brazos Kid Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I still say that people are giving Stoeger a bad name on single triggers, at least on the current models. The newer models have mechanical triggers, and require absolutely NO recoil to reset. Secondly the old problem of doubling simply won't happen if they don't receive "Kitchen Table" gunsmithing on the sears and hammer springs. I own a late model single trigger Coach Gun Supreme that works absolutely perfectly. Hasn't failed in any way for the year and a half it's been in service. Yes, the trigger pull is a bit heavy, but you get used to that. Screwing with the sears, or lightening the hammer springs is a good way to cause problems. Leave them alone and you probably won't have any problems with the single triggers. I have another Stoeger Coach gun with double triggers. Works just fine too. However I don't like it as well as the single trigger model, so it get's little use. I keep it for a backup, which I probably don't really need. Bottom line is that I have two very serviceable guns that work perfectly, for way less money than 1 of the "preferred" makes or models cost. RBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Dutch, SASS # 7995 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 People didn't give Stoeger a bad name! Stoeger did that on there own, and if you said you would give me two slicked up Stoeger's or pay the going price for two slicked up SKB's like I have? I would buy the SKB's V.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAWHIDE RED, SASS # 7076 L Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 OK, gunsmiths out there. Want to try the change over? Rawhide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Even the big name shotguns will not fire reliably with black powder. It seems the push is not sharp enough to fire them as designed. That is where the BSS is so fantastic. Mechanical reset rather than inertia! Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I had a SKB that would "DOUBLE" on me. Pull the trigger once and BOTH barrels would fire. Factory had to replace the trigger. On some of the 'new' single triggers, noticed one fellow who shot light loads and the initera trigger would no reset for the second shot. He had to 'bump' the stock to shoot the next round. What happens if the first round doesn't go off and there is no 'recoil' to reset the trigger for next round. Seen it happen more than once. Were these guns set up by a good gunsmith for CAS? If not, it is not worth anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diablo slim shootist Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Be careful making the statement "most shooters have had trouble with their single triggers". I for one have not! I have 2 SKB's that I have shot 1,000's of rounds thru without a problem. For that matter, I' don't remember anyone I know shooting Brownings or SKB's that have had a problem with the triggers. More a matter of quality of the gun me thinks. You need to reread my post Big guy (I own a great little SKB and I do not really use it as my back up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diablo slim shootist Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Red try contacting Steve Young-Seems I remember him doing one> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt McAllister Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Even the big name shotguns will not fire reliably with black powder. It seems the push is not sharp enough to fire them as designed. When set up properly all SKB's should consistantly fire black powder loads. Just ask Doc Pain. I think he just won FCD at CaC with an SKB. I believe the guy he beat shoots one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 When set up properly all SKB's should consistantly fire black powder loads. Just ask Doc Pain. I think he just won FCD at CaC with an SKB. I believe the guy he beat shoots one too. I shoot 100% BP and have never had a problem with my SKBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oklahoma Dee Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 That aint right! You all hijacked Rawhide Red's thread. He was askin for help and you all took it somewhere else. OkD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 That aint right! You all hijacked Rawhide Red's thread. He was askin for help and you all took it somewhere else. OkD Welcome to the SASS Wire. Unfortunately it happens all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAWHIDE RED, SASS # 7076 L Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 Thats OK. It seems that it cost a lot to have it done. Now, lets have some fun. PH, xrap, i kust nroke mu glasases. Rswjide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 :lol: Love it. GJ (Mine broke a month ago. Took me a wekk to gey a nwe pairj. And i woek on computers a;; dau libf.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cinch, SASS#29433 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I have a SKB, a BSS or two and several other shotguns... Now, it just ain't worth the trouble to swap the trigger on the Stoeger. The single triggers are by and large troublesome. You would be better served to buy a double trigger (Stoeger) and swap the front and rear (if you are right handed). Now back to your regularly scheduled SKB, BSS love fest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Spearman 32884 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 That aint right! You all hijacked Rawhide Red's thread. He was askin for help and you all took it somewhere else. OkD Ya and nobody bothered to tell ole Red, that single trigger guns are slower than double trigger guns......sheeesh boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Houston # 35508 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Ya and nobody bothered to tell ole Red, that single trigger guns are slower than double trigger guns......sheeesh boss :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 The Stoger single trigger is mechanical. I have a Stoger Supreme and think it is a great little gun for about half the price of and SKB or BSS. The trigger is so simple in it's operation that short of something actually breaking, I don't see how it could give a problem. As far a converting from a double to single trigger, the floorplate (may not be the right name but I'm talking about the place where the triggers come out) is cut differently between the two designs. While anything could be done if you're willing to pay for it, the double to single trigger conversion doesn't look feasible to me. It would take some machine work and would probably cost more than the gun is worth, unless you do all the work yourself. (In which case you probably wouldn't be asking the question.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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