Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Another forum brought up the subject of Shotguns. Being of a curious nature I dialed in on it. He is a website that will give you a bit of information on the construction of fine English shotguns. By fine, I mean High End. Check it out. I know it gets a bit presumptuous in places, well mostly throughout, but watching the craftsmen and women is interesting. Most of us will never see nor perhaps be interested in one of them but they are purdy. http://www.hollandandholland.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 No, no, no...Holland & Holland, not Purdy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 No, no, no...Holland & Holland, not Purdy. I was awaiting that remark, Joe. :lol: They are beautiful guns, but I just cannot see where all that engraving is gonna get you on target. Fitting the gun and patterning the gun, yes. Scroll, no. Nice wood though, don't you think, old man? Shall we have tea now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I was awaiting that remark, Joe. :lol: Didn't want to disappoint, old bean! They are beautiful guns, but I just cannot see where all that engraving is gonna get you on target. Fitting the gun and patterning the gun, yes. Scroll, no. Nice wood though, don't you think, old man? Shall we have tea now? Quite. Still, one must have a bit of flash. Keep up appearances, don't you know. And, yes, a cuppa would be rahtha nice, wouldn't it? Darjeeling, one lump, and light on the milk if you please, sir. I do hope you are using the Spode today, not that ghassstly stuff from Limoges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 BMC YA THINK , it be a mite upp a ddy ? That video is most likely as close to a H&H , as most of us will get CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Yessir you can parker right there. I'm missing the Tulsa show today but if you're ever around attend it. There should be some of all the above in shotgun and double rifle form plus Churchill, Greener, Boss, Evans, Rigby and others. It ain't a gunshow....its a museum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 Should I say TALLY HO, OLD CHAPS. I should hope that nobody is using one of those upstart Purdy's for walk ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 BMC I will stay with my NO CLASS Stevens 311 , does a fine job , if I do my part . CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 Are you saying that a dead bird does not care what you shot him with? How provincial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashpowder Hal Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 As ah wuz jest sayin' ta' Lord Okie tother day, Let's wander over ta' H&H an rub sum red-mud inta da' carpet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 As ah wuz jest sayin' ta' Lord Okie tother day, Let's wander over ta' H&H an rub sum red-mud inta da' carpet :lol: :lol: Okie could do that. Do they have red clay in Oklahoma? Cabelas over in Lacy has one in their Gun Library. It is a 12 gauge Royal Ejector (what ever that is) for only $12,000.00. Practically a steal at that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashpowder Hal Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Ah wuz gonna git dat fer Big Red's Xmas present, But da' pull wuz too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 Ahhhh, yeah, I know what you mean. I just didn't like the fit either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 Here is another web page but they do not give prices. I wonder why? http://www.purdey.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashpowder Hal Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 As da' well-ta-do sez, "If you have to ask, you can't afford it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 BMC Ya know , IF I was to get one of them , I would have to part with the Stevens or the Mossberg 500 , Not sure if that is a good trade or not CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Well, if you are knocking down birds, probably not a good trade off. After all, you ain't gonna be handsome and fancy like them fellers in the H&H film anyway! I'll bet you don't even own an ascot, do ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Hoss Fly #63711 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Well, if you are knocking down birds, probably not a good trade off. After all, you ain't gonna be handsome and fancy like them fellers in the H&H film anyway! I'll bet you don't even own an ascot, do ya? Wats ah ascot go for these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashpowder Hal Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Got mine at Easy-Boy, This cot fits my a*# just purfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Wats ah ascot go for these days? A fashionable and tasteful one can be had for $28.95, or if you prefer silk, a bit more. Remember, you do not want to be unfashionable on the moors while shooting. Now if you want to sit in it like Hal, it is gonna cost ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashpowder Hal Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Naw, ya' doan wanna sit on da' moors, Ya' sets onda cot and sip onda Coors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Mike Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'd like to get a Holland & Holland for CAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I fell asleep part way thru, how does it end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. I. Tarpicker, SASS #998 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Some of the Basque gunmakers in Eibar region of Spain make excellent copies of H&H guns for a lot less money. The names Grulla and Arizzabalaga come to mind. Try http://spanishguns.com for more info. GIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Windshadow Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Nah the Duke's cased Greeners is what we should aspire to here... Though I look at at my Mom's 20 Ga Winchester Model 21 (just a field grade with straight stock and splinter fore end set up Skeet 1 and Skeet 2 but the wood it has is very nice) (She had it as her wedding gift from Dad before WWII and he bought as a used gun... I guess I should run the S# and find out when it was built some day )and I think we built some mighty fine scatter guns here in the USA once; in that list of makers was Parker (I have a 16 ga trojan (plain) grade one of those that was her father's and it is a sweet shooter that I feel it is ok to shoot in SASS from time to time as it does rather show its age.) and the other greats of US shotgun fame and their exhibition grade guns rank with the finest the world could produce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Hawk 60642 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Badger,....I gotts tree of'em.................Coachguns, I mean. I plan to stay in my no class, low life, Saloon drinkin' ways....... And I pity da fool what tries to talk me out dat Saloon door !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Just heard from H&H and they said that their sales figures did not increase all that much, even after being exposed to the SALOON. I guess you guys are just not in a buying mood, eh? Don't ya think one of them gold plated ones with all the fancy scrolling would look delicious under the Christmas tree on Christmas morning? Get it made to your specifications ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 BMC Ya can send me a couple of them , as long as YOU are paying for em They might look good hanging above the door in the barn CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I wandered into an Orvis fly fishing shop in Virginia one summer. I knew I was in trouble when the sales personell were wearing Orvis plaid. I looked around, laughed to my self over whether a ,at that time $28 # 10 Royal Coachman would catch a fish better than a cricket. After some time I decided the only thing in the store I could afford was a dog chew bone and really did not want to spend $14 for one(medium size). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 After watching the short video, I thought that perhaps they had lost sight of the final objective. Or maybe not. I'm thinking that the idea behind taking shotgun in hand and strolling through the brush to obtain some birds for the table, and to enjoy the surroundings, was the end game. I certainly never had wine from cut crystal goblets, a new suit of tweeds and perhaps some new shooting shoes. But then, everybody knows that I have no class. I have never rode to the hounds either. Probably fall off the horse if I did. I have not had a lot of success with a royal coachman anyway, Noz. I prefer a simple fly with lots of dry fly hackle and colors to match the menu. There was a writer at one time under the pseudonym of Sparse Gray Hackle. Given his name and his articles and books, I believe he was on to something. Besides, my humble fly dressing skills would not allow me to tie a $15.00 dry fly. How about a $.15 wet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashpowder Hal Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Iz ya' snatchin' thet $15 outta' da' urinal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I was awaiting that remark, Joe. :lol: They are beautiful guns, but I just cannot see where all that engraving is gonna get you on target. Fitting the gun and patterning the gun, yes. Scroll, no. Nice wood though, don't you think, old man? Shall we have tea now? I believe a pretty gun shoots better than a plain gun simply because you unconsciously try to live up to its image. Of course, I'm not conscious of much anymore so i don't shoot well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 BMC YA THINK , it be a mite upp a ddy ? That video is most likely as close to a H&H , as most of us will get CB Not so. I have a Holland and Holland......................375 cartridge in my collection. I wish I had the gun it was made for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'd like to get a Holland & Holland for CAS. For CAS I'd rather have a Bernardelli "Brescia" model hammer gun with three sets of barrels and the fully equipped luggage case and fleece-lined case sleeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Not so. I have a Holland and Holland......................375 cartridge in my collection. I wish I had the gun it was made for. Was that from your cape buffalo hunt with Hemingway, when you were both on safari together? Tell us the story again, Uncle Forty Rod.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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