Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Just saw an alert indicating that the CA Dept of Toxic Substances Control is about to release proposed regulations (the "Green Chemistry Initiave"), effectively banning an estimated 3000 "chemicals of concern" in consumer products. Draft regs will be released shortly, with comment period running out before the end of the year. The suggestion is that CA will ban products containing many of these substances at very low theshholds, often well below the limits recognized by scientists to be causally related to disease or injury. Sounds like lead, and many other things used to have fun, may be targeted. If I were in CA, I'd be looking for these regs and talking to my elected folks - before these regs become law. Sounds like another barrier that might lead other manufacturers to avoid the CA market. I feel for ya, pards. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/PressRoom/upload/News-Release-T-21-11.pdf GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jittery Jim Jonah, SASS #64913L Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Trouble is there is no location or source to find out what is on the proposed list of chemicals/ products. The proposed 'informal' regulations are drafted in such a way that virtually any product made could be on the list. From what I have read if any product has any amount of any chemical on 'the list' you are in trouble.... And 'the list' has yet to be made public.... This is the start of 'Big Brother' and total government control at it's worst... A perfect way to outlaw ALL ammunition and related products. Exceptions are allowed, but the process will be very long and expensive, and subjective... Strap in for this ride! JJJ-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Jittery, this ain't the start... that was some time ago. This is just another major step toward total oppression. What's next... Martial Law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Phil DeGrave SASS #55202 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Let them do as they wish. I will purchase all my lead, powder, and other toxic chemicals from Az or Nv. I will be more than happy to support the communities that don't infringe on my rights. From www.about.chemistry.com Although we need oxygen in order to live, oxygen can be a poison. Oxygen is toxic or even lethal at high partial pressures. Many common household chemicals are dangerous. They may be reasonably safe when used as directed, yet contain toxic chemicals or degrade over time into a more dangerous chemical. Here's a list of some of the most dangerous household chemicals, including the ingredients to watch for and the nature of the risk. Some of the ingredients in cosmetics and personal care products are chemicals that may be hazardous to your health. Take a look at some of the ingredients to watch for and the health concerns raised by these chemicals. From the little I read, if Ca pushes this, almost every manufacturer (of anything) will forced out of Ca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 They can have the communist country of California for all I care ! But the United States is off limits !! They can have all my lead they wont AT 850.FPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Mushman Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 From the little I read, if Ca pushes this, almost every manufacturer (of anything) will forced out of Ca. Been happenin' for quite a while already (well over 20 years, and the pace is quickening) here in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia. For example, once the areospace capital of the country, the last aerospace company headquarters relocated out of state last year (Northrop-Grumman). Resisting.......the ..........urge.............. Cheers, Harvey (who's goin to bed so I can shoot tommorrow (LSCR) in the PRK before it's entirely illegal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Windshadow Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I wonder if this will pass? Dihydrogen Oxide MSDS Number: W0600 --- Effective Date: 11/17/99 1. Product Identification Synonyms: Water CAS No.: 7732-18-5 Molecular Weight: 18 Chemical Formula: H2O Product Codes: J.T. Baker: 4218, 4219, 6906 Mallinckrodt: 6795, H453, V564 2. Composition/Information on Ingredients Ingredient CAS No Percent Hazardous --------------------------------------- ------------ ------- --------- Water 7732-18-5 100% No 3. Hazards Identification Emergency Overview -------------------------- Not applicable. J.T. Baker SAF-T-DATA Ratings (Provided here for your convenience) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Health Rating: 0 - None Flammability Rating: 0 - None Reactivity Rating: 1 - Slight Contact Rating: 0 - None Lab Protective Equip: GOGGLES; LAB COAT Storage Color Code: Orange (General Storage) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Potential Health Effects ---------------------------------- Water is non-hazardous. Inhalation: Not applicable. Ingestion: Not applicable. Skin Contact: Not applicable. Eye Contact: Not applicable. Chronic Exposure: Not applicable. Aggravation of Pre-existing Conditions: Not applicable. 4. First Aid Measures Inhalation: Not applicable. Ingestion: Not applicable. Skin Contact: Not applicable. Eye Contact: Not applicable. 5. Fire Fighting Measures Fire: Not applicable. Explosion: Not applicable. Fire Extinguishing Media: Use extinguishing media appropriate for surrounding fire. Special Information: In the event of a fire, wear full protective clothing and NIOSH-approved self-contained breathing apparatus with full facepiece operated in the pressure demand or other positive pressure mode. 6. Accidental Release Measures Non-hazardous material. Clean up of spills requires no special equipment or procedures. 7. Handling and Storage Keep container tightly closed. Suitable for any general chemical storage area. Protect from freezing. Water is considered a non-regulated product, but may react vigorously with some specific materials. Avoid contact with all materials until investigation shows substance is compatible. 8. Exposure Controls/Personal Protection Airborne Exposure Limits: Not applicable. Ventilation System: Not applicable. Personal Respirators (NIOSH Approved): Not applicable. Skin Protection: None required. Eye Protection: None required. 9. Physical and Chemical Properties Appearance: Clear, colorless liquid. Odor: Odorless. Solubility: Complete (100%) Specific Gravity: 1.00 pH: 7.0 % Volatiles by volume @ 21C (70F): 100 Boiling Point: 100C (212F) Melting Point: 0C (32F) Vapor Density (Air=1): Not applicable. Vapor Pressure (mm Hg): 17.5 @ 20C (68F) Evaporation Rate (BuAc=1): No information found. 10. Stability and Reactivity Stability: Stable under ordinary conditions of use and storage. Hazardous Decomposition Products: Not applicable. Hazardous Polymerization: Will not occur. Incompatibilities: Strong reducing agents, acid chlorides, phosphorus trichloride, phosphorus pentachloride, phosphorus oxychloride. Conditions to Avoid: No information found. 11. Toxicological Information --------\Cancer Lists\------------------------------------------------------ ---NTP Carcinogen--- Ingredient Known Anticipated IARC Category ------------------------------------ ----- ----------- ------------- Water (7732-18-5) No No None 12. Ecological Information Environmental Fate: Not applicable. Environmental Toxicity: Not applicable. 13. Disposal Considerations Whatever cannot be saved for recovery or recycling should be flushed to sewer. If material becomes contaminated during use, dispose of accordingly. Dispose of container and unused contents in accordance with federal, state and local requirements. 14. Transport Information Not regulated. 15. Regulatory Information --------\Chemical Inventory Status - Part 1\--------------------------------- Ingredient TSCA EC Japan Australia ----------------------------------------------- ---- --- ----- --------- Water (7732-18-5) Yes Yes Yes Yes --------\Chemical Inventory Status - Part 2\--------------------------------- --Canada-- Ingredient Korea DSL NDSL Phil. ----------------------------------------------- ----- --- ---- ----- Water (7732-18-5) Yes Yes No Yes --------\Federal, State & International Regulations - Part 1\---------------- -SARA 302- ------SARA 313------ Ingredient RQ TPQ List Chemical Catg. ----------------------------------------- --- ----- ---- -------------- Water (7732-18-5) No No No No --------\Federal, State & International Regulations - Part 2\---------------- -RCRA- -TSCA- Ingredient CERCLA 261.33 8(d) ----------------------------------------- ------ ------ ------ Water (7732-18-5) No No No Chemical Weapons Convention: No TSCA 12(: No CDTA: No SARA 311/312: Acute: No Chronic: No Fire: No Pressure: No Reactivity: No (Pure / Liquid) Australian Hazchem Code: No information found. Poison Schedule: No information found. WHMIS: This MSDS has been prepared according to the hazard criteria of the Controlled Products Regulations (CPR) and the MSDS contains all of the information required by the CPR. 16. Other Information NFPA Ratings: Health: 0 Flammability: 0 Reactivity: 0 Label Hazard Warning: Not applicable. Label Precautions: Keep in tightly closed container. Label First Aid: Not applicable. Product Use: Laboratory Reagent. Revision Information: No changes. Disclaimer: ************************************************************************************************ Mallinckrodt Baker, Inc. provides the information contained herein in good faith but makes no representation as to its comprehensiveness or accuracy. This document is intended only as a guide to the appropriate precautionary handling of the material by a properly trained person using this product. Individuals receiving the information must exercise their independent judgment in determining its appropriateness for a particular purpose. MALLINCKRODT BAKER, INC. MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE WITH RESPECT TO THE INFORMATION SET FORTH HEREIN OR THE PRODUCT TO WHICH THE INFORMATION REFERS. ACCORDINGLY, MALLINCKRODT BAKER, INC. WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DAMAGES RESULTING FROM USE OF OR RELIANCE UPON THIS INFORMATION. ************************************************************************************************ Prepared by: Strategic Services Division Phone Number: (314) 539-1600 (U.S.A.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Lizard Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 In this state we have watch everything they do...Even the family jewels and of course our back side...Never know when we are going to get hosed... Texas Lizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Phil DeGrave SASS #55202 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 TL, That just proves that water is hazardous!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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