Jack Houston # 35508 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Which is best Plainfield,or Universal?? Can't afford a Military version or Auto-Ordinance/Kahr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Plainfields were decent guns. Supposed to be GI parts. I don't know enough to say with certainity whether that is true. The Universals will work but were not 100% parts interchangable with GI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 JH After doing a little looking . It appears the Plainfield and the Universal , went under the same roof in appox 1975 . Some of the parts are VERY hard to find , Ie , the op rods , not to be had around here . I have seen some in the pawn shops , and gun stores , But like you I can not afford them , Saw a couple with a $600 price , in what I would call good condition , not exelent but above fair . Good luck on the hunt CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I can't speak for the Universal, but I'm very satisfied with my Plainfield. Functions flawlessly and surprisingly accurate. I bought it used on the SASS Classifieds, and have had it about 4 years. No problems so far, although I've only shot about 200 rounds through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Do NOT get the Universal. I bought one brandy new in the 70s. JUNK. Never could get it to function reliably. And as Creeker said, G.I. parts don't fit. Have you ever seen the LLAMA 1911? It looks like a 1911 and uses G.I. magazines, but that's as far as it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Will Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Do NOT get the Universal. I bought one brandy new in the 70s. JUNK. Never could get it to function reliably. And as Creeker said, G.I. parts don't fit. Have you ever seen the LLAMA 1911? It looks like a 1911 and uses G.I. magazines, but that's as far as it goes. Like Gas mileage.... everyone gets differnt results; I guess. Arounf here, I see Carbines going for less than $500 in good condition. Purchased a Plainsfield recently for $175 (AS NEW). Llama... I have one that will feed bent coathangers and shoot like a dream. My suggestion is to try before you buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Whiskers Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I think I'll hang on to my original Winchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I had a friend on a SWAT team who had a Universal blow up in his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Houston # 35508 Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 OK, I'll just get a Hi-Point .45acp Carbine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottom Dealin Mike, SASS #22273 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I've got a Hi Point and an M1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 My dad has an Iver Johnson M1 carbine that has been shot a lot without any issues. I prefer my carbine made by General Motors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Gregg Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Plainfield & Iver Johnson were connected, I recollect. I've owned some Plainfileds and several GI's. All worked very well with ball and reloads. I have owned 2 Universals too. I didn't think as much of them. IMI (Israel) made one too. It was quality-built, for sure. Maybe that's the Kahr-import now(???). MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Newt # 7365 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I have no experience with Plainfield or Universal guns. But just for the sake of conversation, a few years back I inherited an Alpine M1 carbine. There's not a lot of information out there, but they were manufactured in the 60's utilizing after market receivers and the rest milsurp parts. The rap on them is that the receiver steel was soft. I don't have a "thousands of rounds" story to tell, but I've shot it quite a bit and it works pretty well. The price was right, in any event. Nasty Newt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Mike Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 some original carbines can be found for around 600 and they go up in value if you take care of them. I might be able to find one in fact for 600 and maybe add 35 for shipping. I can check my inventory if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Hair, SASS #29557 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Save your money and get a Auto Ordnance/Kahr. I did and love it! Plus, I believe, all parts are GI interchangeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Will Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Since we are going off the reservation.... here is my personal favorite in 9mm using S&W Mags.... fitted with the smaller optional handgrip. Fits into a briefcase or computer bag. I can take out bowling pins at 75 yds with factory sights... a ZOMBIE GUN? http://www.bugoutsurvival.com/2010/03/kel-tec-sub-9.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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