Tom Foolery U.S.M. #2348 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 OK, I asked this question a few years ago. Didn't get an answer then and hope now that some new info has been dug up. I have an Italian made 1860 with NO makers mark, only the basic proof marks. XX9=1973. On the left side of the frame is a 1/4" circle with HS inside. Top of S intersects right leg of H. Some say HIGH STANDARD, some say NO. I haven't found anything that HIGH STANDARD made 1860's or used this mark. Any thoughts on this??? TF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Jones, SASS 2263 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 The mark you describe doesn't appear in any reference I have looked at. Also, the letters PN (black powder) should be present somewhere. Are there no marks under the loading lever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Foolery U.S.M. #2348 Posted October 22, 2011 Author Share Posted October 22, 2011 The basic proof house and BP proof marks are there on the frame and cylinder. 846 (? not part of ser. # ?) is under the barrel near the lever, nothing else. TF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckhorn Woodie Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 OK, I asked this question a few years ago. Didn't get an answer then and hope now that some new info has been dug up. I have an Italian made 1860 with NO makers mark, only the basic proof marks. XX9=1973. On the left side of the frame is a 1/4" circle with HS inside. Top of S intersects right leg of H. Some say HIGH STANDARD, some say NO. I haven't found anything that HIGH STANDARD made 1860's or used this mark. Any thoughts on this??? TF Could it be an old Italian kit gun?..... some years back you could buy a unfinished kit that one would have to blue, fit the grips and internal parts the ones I have seen had very few markings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Post here. These guys are pretty good at identifying the old Italian reproductions. http://blackpowdersmoke.com/revolvers/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Foolery U.S.M. #2348 Posted October 22, 2011 Author Share Posted October 22, 2011 I did a kit revolver years ago. All the parts needed bluing. This gun has a lever, hammer and frame that are color case hardened. Blued barrel, cylinder (with the proper engraved scene) and back strap. Brass trigger guard. TF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Foolery U.S.M. #2348 Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 NEW NEWS HS possibly stands for HERBERT SCHMINDT, a gun maker/dealer in Germany that closed about 1999. He was know to buy Italian repros, mark them and sell them. According to my sources, there are now only about 3 of these cap and ball guns (marked such) known. Most of his guns were single action cartridge. TF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Coles SASS 1188 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 High Standard sold some Civil War commemoratives (the ones I have seen are Leech and Rigdons)but they were clearly marked as High Standards. Whatever you have, it is possible that someone filed the marks off your gun (a not uncommon practice among reenactors known as "de-farbing"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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