Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive." Finally, it looks like this whole Project Gunrunner/Fast and Furious debacle is about to come apart. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/26/us-government-bought-and-sold-weapons-during-fast-and-furious-documents-show/ If this Fox report is accurate, it would seem much more likely that the ATF/Justice Department was intentionally "seeding" the Mexican cartels with guns they actually purchased (or ordered purchased) illegally, despite the protests of FFLs and ATF field agents. If this is correct, and there was no "botched" operation in which ATF simply lost track of guns, then somebody at ATF and at the Justice Dept. has lied to Congress. Let's see if they take this as seriously as lying about steroid use in baseball. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shoer 27979 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive." Finally, it looks like this whole Project Gunrunner/Fast and Furious debacle is about to come apart. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/26/us-government-bought-and-sold-weapons-during-fast-and-furious-documents-show/ If this Fox report is accurate, it would seem much more likely that the ATF/Justice Department was intentionally "seeding" the Mexican cartels with guns they actually purchased (or ordered purchased) illegally, despite the protests of FFLs and ATF field agents. If this is correct, and there was no "botched" operation in which ATF simply lost track of guns, then somebody at ATF and at the Justice Dept. has lied to Congress. NO tell me it isn't true somebody lied to congress Let's see if they take this as seriously as lying about steroid use in baseball. Now don't pick on Baseball/sports Loophole , you know it is far more important to make sure those over paid sports figures are prosecuted for steroids then it is to go after real criminals LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCatcher Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive." Finally, it looks like this whole Project Gunrunner/Fast and Furious debacle is about to come apart. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/26/us-government-bought-and-sold-weapons-during-fast-and-furious-documents-show/ If this Fox report is accurate, it would seem much more likely that the ATF/Justice Department was intentionally "seeding" the Mexican cartels with guns they actually purchased (or ordered purchased) illegally, despite the protests of FFLs and ATF field agents. If this is correct, and there was no "botched" operation in which ATF simply lost track of guns, then somebody at ATF and at the Justice Dept. has lied to Congress. Let's see if they take this as seriously as lying about steroid use in baseball. LL Give it time - this thing is unraveling at a constant pace, and pretty soon the indictments will follow. With any luck this will land in the anointed one's lap, or at least on his shoes, and the whole cabal of crooks and commie's will end up in a jail cell some where for a long while. If we're really lucky, once the bad guys go down, most of their other records and documents will be exposed, and more will tumble as collateral damage . . . . Shadow Catcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Scatterbrain Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 somebody at ATF and at the Justice Dept. has lied WHAAAT???!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shoer 27979 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Give it time - this thing is unraveling at a constant pace, and pretty soon the indictments will follow. With any luck this will land in the anointed one's lap, or at least on his shoes, and the whole cabal of crooks and commie's will end up in a jail cell some where for a long while. If we're really lucky, once the bad guys go down, most of their other records and documents will be exposed, and more will tumble as collateral damage . . . . Shadow Catcher Maybe we will get lucky and most everything will come out the last couple months before the election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCatcher Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Maybe we will get lucky and most everything will come out the last couple months before the election From your lips to God's ears . . . SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Houston # 35508 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 If I declare myself a "Cartel" will they give me some guns??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jake1001 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 If I declare myself a "Cartel" will they give me some guns??? NO, you can't be given any guns, you have to sell lots of drugs, make millions and BUY them. Just like any Cartel. Just sayin' Big Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Phil Peeno #50923 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Give or take 75% of the sold guns are still unaccounted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nichols Creek, SASS #77627 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Ya know, if it wasn't for FOX news and the more conservative talk radio, this story would still be buried out there...Makes ya wonder don't it???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Woodrow Cahill, SASS # 54363 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Ya know, if it wasn't for FOX news and the more conservative talk radio, this story would still be buried out there...Makes ya wonder don't it???? I don't wonder at it at all Nichols. The media hacks (and I work with them) just can't admit to themselves they supported and helped elect a bunch of gangsters who don't care who gets hurt as long the agenda moves forward. They bring to mind the engineer who helped design and build the Titanic who couldn't believe the ship was sinking even as the waves were lapping over the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Woodrow, Chicago style politics and gangsters. and they thought Ness cleaned up the town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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