Preacher Clint Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 OK. I spent the last 18 months or so engaged in a fruitless flirtation with NCOWS. After much frustration and sacrifice, I have returned to my senses and SASS roots. Needless to say, my NCOWS experience necessitated replacing firearms that were "improper" and so, most of my race guns were sold or traded. I now own a 24" 1866 Sporting Rifle in 45LC and an 1873 in 44-40 with 30" barrel. I plan to restrict the 73 to those times when I want to shoot BP, otherwise I'll use the 66 for all my smokeless shooting. The 66 has had some work. The sights are excellent and it has an aluminum carrier. The springs seem to have been lightened. I did try to replace them with whisper springs from Happy Trails, but the whisper springs never seemed to function properly. The lever stroke is still stock Uberti -- very long! Would like your recommendations on the available kits, as well as just sending it to Cody Conagher for his majic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Pusher, SASS #71360 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Preacher, I had my 66 short stroked, by Jim Bowie/Cowboys and Indians, last month at EOT. Had my choice of his 3rd or 5th generation. His recommendation, for me since I don't have another rifle to match it to, was to do the 5th generation cause I'd end up wanting it later anyway. Badge Pusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickahominy Charlie Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I shoot a 24" '66 that NKJ slicked before I bought it. I'm fairly sure it has a Pioneer Gun Works kit in it. Now, I can miss really fast. Chick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawd Awful Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 After using the 3rd and 5th gen cowboy and Indian kit I think anything less than a 5th gen c&i is just spending money you will regret. But I also suggest you go to a match and talk to other shooters to see what they run, fin a few different examples and ask to try there guns. I don't know any cowboys who aren't willing to help another shooter and most will just let you try there gun and get a feel for what works for you. One thing cowboys are good at is helping you figure out how to spend your money :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painted Filly Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I had my '66 sent directly to Cody... Love it! Had him put on a larger sight and I also recommed getting the lightened brass carrier from ol #4. The aluminum will wear out very fast and not give you any warning. I also had Ol #4 put in the slix springs. I shoot both BP and smoekless out if it and works great. You will not be sorry sending to Cody Painted Filly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 You have three choices. 1. Cowboys & Indian Store for their 3rd or 5th generation kit, 2. The ottaway Smith AKA: Ruon Snover and Pioneer Gunworks for either standard or super short. Those are the current manufactures of SS kits. All of the manufactures do fine kits and stand behind their work. Pioneer has just improved their kit and it is very smooth. I do consider Ron Snover's kit to be the Rolls Royce of kits. The end result will be determined by how well the action wor is done before the kit is installed. Pick a good gun plumber. Coffinmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 I had my '66 sent directly to Cody... Love it! Had him put on a larger sight and I also recommed getting the lightened brass carrier from ol #4. The aluminum will wear out very fast and not give you any warning. I also had Ol #4 put in the slix springs. I shoot both BP and smoekless out if it and works great. You will not be sorry sending to Cody Painted Filly I've got 10's of thousands of rounds through my C&I...with ALUMINUM carrier...it hasn't worn out...where did ya get that one? I stongly recommend either the 3rd or 5th Gen from C&I. Cheers! Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painted Filly Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 From several of the people that I shoot with that have had to replace their carriers. Painted Filly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 From several of the people that I shoot with that have had to replace their carriers. Painted Filly C&I Aluminum Carriers are just fine...I'm not going to lump them in with other aluminum carriers. First hand knowledge is sometimes a good thing. Perhaps you should consider this before making blanket statements imply such. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hud Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 C&I Aluminum Carriers are just fine...I'm not going to lump them in with other aluminum carriers. First hand knowledge is sometimes a good thing. Perhaps you should consider this before making blanket statements imply such. Cheers! yep, same here. Somewheres betwwen 30 n 40 thousand rounds thru my 73 now, same carrier as Phantoms. No issues with it at all. Ive had to replace OTHER stuff, but thats all normal hud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daybreaker Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Ottway Smith has THE BEST KIT OUT THERE.......Period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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