Two-Bit Charlie Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I know there was an article in the "Cowboy Chronicle" on how to make horse props that you can use a long gun rests. Now that I need to make some, I don't remember when that article was printed. Can anyone help me with plans for the horse props or let me know which issue of the chronicle it was in? Thanks in advance Two-Bit Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I know there was an article in the "Cowboy Chronicle" on how to make horse props that you can use a long gun rests. Now that I need to make some, I don't remember when that article was printed. Can anyone help me with plans for the horse props or let me know which issue of the chronicle it was in? Thanks in advance Two-Bit Charlie Contact Cree Vicar Dave, he did the article I think. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Go to the members only area from the main SASS page, choose "plans, props, and PDFs,' on the third 'page' of items is the article you are looking for. Grizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Houston # 35508 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Train 'em to stand very still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turquoise Bill, SASS #39118 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Long Gun Prop We made 4 of these for use on our range, I think Duce Stevens came up with the design, anyhow they break down for storage and with the flat top you can stage rifles, shotguns or pistols on them. They work great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 The table version is a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Gato Gordo - SASS #15162 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 With the legs in a vertical position, like in that last photo, they are not very stable. Angle the cuts on the body so the legs are about 10 to 15 degrees forward in front and rearward on the kicking end. I used Cree Vicar Dave's patterns and the directions were easy to follow ~ but I would do the legs differently next time for more stability. Buena suerte, eGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turquoise Bill, SASS #39118 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 We have shot the on the ones I posted a link on for the last 18 months, no problem with stability, they are great. With the way the legs are cut out they are very stable on uneven ground. If you think you need to make the leg cuts at an angle go right ahead. We had our monthly shoot today, and used 4 of those horses, no problem. TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Bit Charlie Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 Hey, thanks everyone for the help. I knew I could count on the wire for help! Two-Bit Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt McAllister Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 The horses with the table tops are a million times better han the other design. They are also more friendly to both 97 and SXS shooters. The other ones favor 97 & 87 shooters way more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Chaser, SASS #79316 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Turquoise Bill, Is there a way I can get a pattern of that horse? I would love a pattern, even a small one that I can blow up. Dream Chaser SASS#79316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 The advantage to the traditional horse design is that is breaks down for storage, that's where the advantage stops. As a match director I have seen nothing but headaches with them from instability to guns not staying in one spot and rolling and levers closing to straight up collapse. Plus when restaging on them you are making your SxS eat 1-2 seconds automatically. Not a big deal if you don't care about that kind of stuff. But, the flat tops have been met with rave reviews. Granted they don't have the ambiance of the standard horse, I prefer to get my warm and fuzzy's from the folks in this game, not a piece of wooden prop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 When I first saw the original cow and horse design, I thought it was a great idea - simple to make and easy to store. But I wondered how it would work and at first I found it worked pretty well. A couple years ago, we did a night shoot and I was sure surprised to almost drop my gun as I restaged it. From then on I noticed that it was so easy with a short rifle to have the front of the rifle miss and fall. And as Deuce noted, I did have to either lean forward or take a step forward and turn the rifle upside down to be sure when I put it back. Picking up the SxS was quite easy with the removable "hump" but putting it back was difficult with or without the hump. But the look and functionality of the flat top design looks great!!! I hope we can see more of those where I shoot. I'll have to volunteer to get some wood and try to build some. Is there a way to make them break down into 4 pieces? Oh, the straight legs should work well if well fitted, but I can see that by angling the legs slightly outward as suggested would let gravity help keep the legs stabilized even if the cut isn't as tight or as it wears. Is there a pattern anywhere or is it that simple that none is needed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turquoise Bill, SASS #39118 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I have a large paper pattern, let me see what I can do to make it digital. If someone wants to borrow it and copy it send me an email, lets see what's possible. turquoisebil@cableone.net TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 When I first saw the original cow and horse design, I thought it was a great idea - simple to make and easy to store...Is there a pattern anywhere... I can't tell that well from the photo, but it looks a lot like the Cree Vicar model, except not cutting the notches on each side, rather cutting straight across. Then you can add a flat piece of 1/2" plywood for the table top, with rails on each side to keep the long gun from sliding off. Seems like a simple conversion. Personally, I like the Cree Vicar version. I made the mule for our club, named Ruth of course. I shoot a double and don't feel disadvantaged over a 97 shooter. Granted you can't just throw your firearm down, you have to place it, but so does every other shooter. We'll continue to use it. However, the next rainy day we have I'm going to pull out the pattern for the mule and see if I can't tweak it to make a flat-topped table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack, SASS #20451 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I DO NOT like the original versions !! I have had both my SXS and my '73 fall off them when restating. The flat top is the way to go if you want happy shooters!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shoer 27979 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I would like to get some kind of pattern for those, they are a lot better then the crap we have at my club Actually I need measurements more then a pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 36" 24" 36" But that may not be what you had in mind :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shoer 27979 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 36" 24" 36" But that may not be what you had in mind :D I could live with that but your right that isn't what I had in mind :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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