Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Surprised this didn't make news. What if Bush had done this, it would have been different story. MT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOO_NQV3sPg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hey MT, Seems to me that he started the toast before the music began. Regards, AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Traditionally the toast is "To the Queen" and then you shut up. Doesn't anyone on his staff have responsibility for telling him these things? Is he so unconscious that he can't hear their national anthem and stop his mouth from making sounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Windshadow Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 And the fact that after he asked the date of a nearby cleric he signed the Westminster Abbey guest book and dated it 2008! the official response was that he has not had to write the date on anything since then as all things presented for his signature have the date already filled in http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Obama-Mistake-Westminster-Guest-Book-Dated-2008-By-US-President-Barack-Obama/Article/201105415998813?lpos=UK_News_Second_Home_Page_Feature_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15998813_Obama_Mistake%3A_Westminster_Guest_Book_Dated_2008_By_US_President_Barack_Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hey! I can't stand him. However, I think the music should not have started until he finished talking. Regards, Allie Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Mosby Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Traditionally the toast is "To the Queen" and then you shut up. Doesn't anyone on his staff have responsibility for telling him these things? Is he so unconscious that he can't hear their national anthem and stop his mouth from making sounds? The man and his party are nothing less than evil. Their goal nothing less than the destruction of America and the creation of a socialist state. Just my humble opinion. Never in my 6 decades have I been this embarassed by a government official. I'll go quietly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 That's right - make the toast and shut up....I am glad the music started...the less I can hear from him the better GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack Saddle Slim, SASS #73122 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hey! I can't stand him. However, I think the music should not have started until he finished talking. Regards, Allie Mo The orchestra did exactly what they were supposed to do. When they hear the words, "To her Majesty, the Queen," they are supposed to begin. That's just standard protocol. I guess they didn't realize Barry was going to continue on with, "In the words of Shakespeare...." My question is, why didn't we see this on national news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 The orchestra did exactly what they were supposed to do. When they hear the words, "To her Majesty, the Queen," they are supposed to begin. That's just standard protocol. I guess they didn't realize Barry was going to continue on with, "In the words of Shakespeare...." My question is, why didn't we see this on national news? Because it is not national news, it is national propaganda. History is repeating itself and we are not listining, nor watching. Let us all go to the mall and celebrate on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 That made me SO uncomfortable and embarrassed for the elected leader of my country. I loved Her Majesty's expression when he turned and raised his glass. I think her face could be translated, "Sonny, this isn't about your eloquence. It is about England. Now please shut up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Mosby Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 That made me SO uncomfortable and embarrassed for the elected leader of my country. I loved Her Majesty's expression when he turned and raised his glass. I think her face could be translated, "Sonny, this isn't about your eloquence. It is about England. Now please shut up." agree completly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 The man and his party are nothing less than evil. Their goal nothing less than the destruction of America and the creation of a socialist state. Just my humble opinion. Never in my 6 decades have I been this embarassed by a government official. I'll go quietly now. Wow. Didn't vote for him, but in my opinion this really beats puking on the Japanese Prime Minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 That made me SO uncomfortable and embarrassed for the elected leader of my country. I loved Her Majesty's expression when he turned and raised his glass. I think her face could be translated, "Sonny, this isn't about your eloquence. It is about England. Now please shut up." right with ya on that!! GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hey! I can't stand him. However, I think the music should not have started until he finished talking. Regards, Allie Mo The cue to start the music is when the toaster says "To the Queen". First you make your remarks. Somebody should have coached him on the protocol. Course he could just have been unnerved at the proximity of Camilla. I would be, BTW I had 5 bucks on her in the Preakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Logan #12252 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 What aw booger eatin moron!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hello, Okay, he did not follow protocol. Sorry I did not know. His staffers should have. I still do not find this a horrible gaffe when compared to his other actions. I find his bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia much more offensive, especially when he did not bow to the queen of an allied country. The anthem/toast thingy was inadvertent. The other, bowing to one and not the other was intentional. Regards, Allie Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Cubbie Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 The cue to start the music is when the toaster says "To the Queen". First you make your remarks. Somebody should have coached him on the protocol. Course he could just have been unnerved at the proximity of Camilla. I would be, BTW I had 5 bucks on her in the Preakness. UB....that's a horse race, not a dog fight..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tennessee Stud, SASS# 43634 Life Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 When not to toast the Queen I would also refrain from further toastin'... when she's in the little Queen's room. ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hello, Okay, he did not follow protocol. Sorry I did not know. His staffers should have. I still do not find this a horrible gaffe when compared to his other actions. I find his bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia much more offensive, especially when he did not bow to the queen of an allied country. The anthem/toast thingy was inadvertent. The other, bowing to one and not the other was intentional. Regards, Allie Mo He should be aware of the national anthem, and stopped at that point, not continued. Same as if it had been the our anthem. Didn't he see that no one was looking at him, had their glasses raised? Didn't he get any hints? What if a foreign dignitary had done this while our anthem was playing? MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Mushman Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Allie, Concur with your assessment of some of his other "intentional" gaffes, always slighting our allies and naive pandering to our enemies. In this case there are two points: 1. The toasting protocol point mentioned here is VERY COMMON KNOWLEDGE for anyone in business or government, observed and taught from a very early stage - it is not just protocol for the Queen. I learned it 40+ years ago as a teenager, reinforced in every job I've had since. Every military officer, businessman and politico is taught this basic stuff. 2. Even if he forgot (if he ever knew that BASIC fact), He should have shut up the INSTANT the National Anthem started. That requires awareness that it is NOT about YOU. He's been in politics on a national stage for over 4 years and witnessed thousands of toasts. I admire you wanting to cut him slack here, but it really just confirms what an unqualified, self absorbed individual our President is. I was embarrassed for him and for our country! Harvey BTW, you forgot to mention his toast to President Sarkosy of France where he stated the France was the "greatest of our allies". Sheer ignorance, and insult to our true greatest allies. Tragically pathetic incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Masked Man Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 BTW, you forgot to mention his toast to President Sarkosy of France where he stated the France was the "greatest of our allies". Sheer ignorance, and insult to our true greatest allies. Tragically pathetic incompetence. HM, If by "our" one means the Democratic Socialist Party, then France may very well be the greatest of 'their' allies! I see that you are assuming that by "our" he means the United States .... but that would require the speaker to identify with the United States, rather than with fellow Socialists -- here you seem to make an erroneous assumption! Hi-Yo and Awaaaaaayy, TMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 And I'll add the way our president has treated the prime minister of Israel. The only thing that is close to right in the Middle East is Israel and our president treats her leader with overt rudeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I suspect BHO has done similar things during the ceremonies of third world nations and they did not complain because they needed the money. Q E II, however has protocol in her blood and breaching it is the stuff of <omitted>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 And I'll add the way our president has treated the prime minister of Israel. The only thing that is close to right in the Middle East is Israel and our president treats her leader with overt rudeness. Israel is our friend, but the appeasement policy to the Palestinian's trumps that it seems. Out with Obummer in 2012! GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jake1001 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 All I can say is "What a Dufass" Just sayin' Big Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Back in the day he'd have been tossed in The Tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Surprised this didn't make news. What if Bush had done this, it would have been different story. MT Actually, I saw it on NBC and CBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Any stick will do, if you want to beat on someone! Today's situation is so like 1994-95 it's uncanny. Republicans win at the first mid-term elections, blow the politics, most everybody in the GOP bales out of presidential contention, the Dem Prexy waltzes to a second term. I see it coming again. All this business about the Queen is just frustration-- the Republicans are wearing the Emperor's clothes. Too bad, since I'm one myself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 NBC and CBS isn't news...must have been on some late night comedy show. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 NBC and CBS isn't news...must have been on some late night comedy show. GG Saw it there more than onct too. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oklahomabound Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 ...why are we assuming that Obama's staff did not coach him!!!! ...of course he was coached by his staff. This just shows his complete and total disregard for a valued friend and closest of our allies. This man is self absorbed... ...and did everyone note that he had to read those few words he said inappropriately... ...what a complete embarrassment he is to this country!!! ...he has not grown into the job (as most do), and constantly demonstrates his inability or unwillingness to do so!!!! ...he needs to be impeached, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocDisaster # 45431 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 He is a pathetic Buffoon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 He is a pathetic Buffoon... Does this emoticon work as a "like?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Hoss Fly #63711 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 He is a pathetic Buffoon... Pretty much sums it up--------------------------------------- Edited to be "nice"====== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocDisaster # 45431 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 We really do need a like button on here!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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