Cemetery 296 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Ain't the first, and certainly not the last to run real black in a 1911.This is what happens when you follow the dark path, you start running black in all your gunz. Link to post Share on other sites
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 1,292 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 How many stages can you run with-out cleaning ???? Up here WB calls for 15 or more likley 20 pistol per stage .... Plus 6 shotgun and 10 rifle ... Jabez Cowboy Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 29 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Musta been some outlaw match. SASS rules forbid re-holstering before clearing. Cool looking run tho. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L 431 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Neat... GG ~ Link to post Share on other sites
Cemetery 296 Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 How many stages can you run with-out cleaning ???? Up here WB calls for 15 or more likley 20 pistol per stage .... Plus 6 shotgun and 10 rifle ... Jabez Cowboy This past fall we went to a tacticool zombie match, and both of us ran about 300 or so bp loads through our 1911's without a hitch. It was a regular monthly match, where the club allows the Wild Bunch catagory, but it simply runs the same course of fire. Good for people, like me, who want to get practice with a 1911 without the boredom of punching paper. Link to post Share on other sites
Jed I. Knight, SASS #36423 410 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
Jefro, SASS#69420 417 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Musta been some outlaw match. SASS rules forbid re-holstering before clearing. Cool looking run tho. Yep nice run We had a feller last month shoot FCWB. And yer right about the rules, no reholstering the 1911 unless it's the last firearm and it has been cleared by the RO, should be a table or prop to ground the gun on. WB Shooter Handbook page 6 RANGE OPERATIONS The 1911 must be restaged safely at the end of each shooting string with the slide locked open, unless the 1911 is the last firearm used. It may contain an empty magazine or no magazine when restaged. (Failure to comply, SDQ. WB Shooter Handbook page 17 9. Safe for re-holstering. Slide closed and hammer down on an empty chamber with no magazine. Only after RO Inspection at firing line. WB Match Director's Guide page 7 Remember you MUST provide a safe staging prop at EVERY location where the 1911 may be fired. Even if the sequence is not split and the pistol isn't required to be re-staged, a malfunction may occur and The pistol CANNOT be re-holstered until the stage is completed and it is checked clear by a stage official. Jefro Relax-Enjoy Link to post Share on other sites
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 2,591 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 What's next, BP rounds in a Garand? Link to post Share on other sites
Cemetery 296 Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 What's next, BP rounds in a Garand? I have the sneaky feeling that you've already tried this......LOL Link to post Share on other sites
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 2,591 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I have the sneaky feeling that you've already tried this......LOL I don't own a Garand... Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 15,372 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 What's next, BP rounds in a Garand? Done it in a SMLE.. Couldn't help myself. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L 431 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Done it in a SMLE.. Couldn't help myself. Tried the BP thing in the 30-30 and it's less than stellar. Shootin' bottleneck rifle cartridges using BP that are MEANT for smokeless powder is a waste of fun But hey, whatever floats the boat I reckon GG ~ Link to post Share on other sites
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 1,292 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Da SMLE was chambered in .303 British and loaded with Black ..... For at least 10 years.. Jabez Cowboy Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 15,372 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Da SMLE was chambered in .303 British and loaded with Black ..... For at least 10 years.. Jabez Cowboy Well, the Lee-Metford anyway. The Smellie didn't come around till '04 but the mechanics were basically the same. And shooting BP in ANYTHING is fun for me. Maybe pointless, but fun. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L 431 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hey...whatever floats your boat UB. Your captain of your ship... Oh..I did say shooting BP in bottleneck cartridges MEANT for smokeless powder... But folks lately here on Wire don't read posts correctly....nothing new... GG Link to post Share on other sites
Blasted Cap 0 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 The Garand takes a while to clean after shooting with black. However it doesn't get as gummed up as an AR. I have not tried it in the M1A, I'm thinkin I'll leave that one alone. Don't never ever try to run BP shot shells through a semi auto with those plastic collars in the gas tube though. Thems get expensive. Link to post Share on other sites
Cemetery 296 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 The Garand takes a while to clean after shooting with black. However it doesn't get as gummed up as an AR. What's your experience with black in an AR? I was gonna load 15 rounds of .223 with Triple Seven as a test. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L 431 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 .223 with BP....LOL!!...don't forget to video tape it. GG Link to post Share on other sites
Blasted Cap 0 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 The gas tube got clogged pretty quick and it stoped functioning. I could work it manualy but it was getting pretty gritty so I quit. Where the tube goes into the bolt and the rest of the action was a mess. I used SPG on lead bullets so that may have been part of the issue. For powder I used Goex 3F and a brass rod to compress it as much as I could (PITB). Triple 7 would probably work better. Maybe a harder lube as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Bullweed 419 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 My resources show that the .303 Brit was initially loaded with Cordite, a cotton cord soaked in liquid nitorglyceren and allowed to dry, then cut to specific lengths. The loading required specific lengths, diameters of thread and number of pieces. I cannot imagine the thought-process in moving from BP of the 1880s to Cordite. I believe that the .32 Winchester Special was offered in 1902 as a .30-30 replacement (in the Model 1894) that could be loaded with smokeless or BP. the neck geometry of the .30-30 was changed to better handle the BP. I have not loaded BP in .45 ACP (yet), but I can report that BP in >45 Cowboy Special (same internal dimensions) is a hoot! Link to post Share on other sites
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