Deacon Will Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Kansas Concealed Carry Permit Holders Exempt from NICS Check (GunReports.com) -- On April 8, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) issued a letter to all Kansas Federal Firearm Licensed (FFL) dealers informing them that a valid Kansas concealed carry permit may be used as an alternative to an inquiry of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) for the purchase or transfer of a firearm. All individuals who apply for or renew a concealed carry permit must undergo a NICS inquiry. Exempting valid concealed carry permit holders will alleviate the redundancy of having to go through NICS for every firearm purchase or transfer from a gun dealer. This saves dealers and their customers time and decreases the administrative costs of NICS itself. This victory is the direct result of last session’s NRA-backed Senate Bill 306 being enacted. This monumental reform made a number of significant changes to Kansas’ right-to-carry laws, to not only streamline the concealed carry process, but to meet the federal requirements under U.S.C. § 922(t)(3) and 27 C.F.R. § 478.102(d), which now allow concealed carry permit holders to be exempt from a redundant NICS background check. After the enactment of this legislation, the state legislature sent a letter to BATFE informing them of these changes and requesting a formal review which brought about this recent decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Hopefully the same will be true for Tennessee. We are required to submit to NICS for our permit quals as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Steel Duke Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 That's the way it used to be in Indiana, anyone with a valid License to Carry Handgun permit was waived through, but everyone else had a 7 day waiting period. Now everyone (including LEO's) must jump the NCIC hurdle, but I don't mind the extra 5 minutes for the phone call. BSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 That's the way it used to be in Indiana, anyone with a valid License to Carry Handgun permit was waived through, but everyone else had a 7 day waiting period. Now everyone (including LEO's) must jump the NCIC hurdle, but I don't mind the extra 5 minutes for the phone call. BSD Last gun I bought, the NICS wait was dang near an hour and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Tom Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Last gun I bought, the NICS wait was dang near an hour and a half. They're watchin you, Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 They're watchin you, Bob. Guess I shouldn't have been wearing that, "Thoroughly Dangerous Man" t-shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adirondack Jack, SASS #53440 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Congrats. In NY CCW holders USED TO be NICS exempt, until the FBI/ATF decided NY's computer system needed to be replaced in order to meet their standards, NY refused to FUND the update, and the feds took our ability to process our own NICS and the exemption for permit-holders away..... Keep an eye on your statehouse politics, and keep pressure on for complete compliance with FEDERAL standards.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Had a bill in Colorado a year or so ago that would have allowed that, but the dang dem Governor wouldn't sign it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WymoreWrangler SASS 46187L Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 They have been sitting on approving Nebraska's new law for almost two years, we have it with a special three year license, so Nebraska said you are more vetted with CCW so no need to buy both. BATF is the most incompentent agency in the federal government... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Oso, SASS #57788L Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 In Texas, a valid concealed handgun license is all ya need. No NICS check needed. FWIW...YMMV...SOso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shoer 27979 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 In Texas, a valid concealed handgun license is all ya need. No NICS check needed. FWIW...YMMV...SOso If you have a CCW that is the way it should be in every State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Guess I shouldn't have been wearing that, "Thoroughly Dangerous Man" t-shirt. Say.... You don't by chance happen to have green teeth and used to live in Jackson Mississippi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Duckett Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 No call in Arkansas if you are licensed. CASH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Steel Duke Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Last gun I bought, the NICS wait was dang near an hour and a half. If your town would ever move up from that dang old telegraph, things might go a little faster! BSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 If you have a CCW that is the way it should be in every State If an individual has been up to no good he can bypass the system for years. In Florida I think the CCW is good for 8 years. An individual could go on a buying spree for years and at the same time be a wanted felon or even a convicted felon that has been released and still has a license. In the past year working at a gun shop I have seen many people I am NOT comfortable with owning let along carring a firearm. Not everyone that is able to own a firearm should own one. Wyatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danite SASS #27034 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Utah doesn't require an nics check if you have a current concealed carry card either, not do you have to pay the fee, but they do have to call SLC and check the status of your card. A local dealer is being hounded into the ground by the batf because he would gather a few concealed carry cards, then call on them all at once. They haven't shown that a single one would not have been approved but that doesn't make any difference to them. I worry about selling guns in my own name, private sale, because my name is listed on my nephews FFL and I don't know if I have to jump through the hoops. I've called the atf for a ruling but they NEVER answer their phone. They were nice enough about the application, after loosing two, but I still worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Horton Slaughter, SASS #27275 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Yep, in Florida everyone goes through the check. CCW, Cop, and even us old Cops with CCW's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Horton Slaughter, SASS #27275 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 In Florida I think the CCW is good for 8 years 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulp, SASS#28319 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 It was supposed to be that way in Oklahoma, but I have yet to meet a dealer that knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Brazos Kid Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 If an individual has been up to no good he can bypass the system for years. In Florida I think the CCW is good for 8 years. An individual could go on a buying spree for years and at the same time be a wanted felon or even a convicted felon that has been released and still has a license. In the past year working at a gun shop I have seen many people I am NOT comfortable with owning let along carring a firearm. Not everyone that is able to own a firearm should own one. Wyatt Wyatt, In Texas, your CCW is tied to your Drivers License. Any crime that is committed above the lowest Class Misdemeanor, gets the CCW pulled then and there, and any known crime of that stature gets the license pulled then and there at arrest, and isn't returned until the case has been adjudicated, if found not guilty. No person will be running around for years with a CCW if they are not supposed to have one. RBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisler Wood Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 It's that way in Montana.......but we dont' have a waiting period anyway.......so all it saves is a phone call... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 If your town would ever move up from that dang old telegraph, things might go a little faster! BSD Har. My town don't even have a gun shop. I have to go to the next county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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