Rube Burrows Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I am thinking about getting myself a pair of new six shooters. Right now I have a pair of Ruger New Vaquero with 4 5/8 barrel in Stainless. Other than Rugers what Six Shooter would you buy if buying a new one. * I have a couple of requirements. I want Color Case Hardening on the gun and I want them with barrels in the neighborhood of 4 5/8 so they will fit my holsters I already have. * No Rugers, I want something different this time. * No Colt or USFA....just cant swing a pair of either right now though I wish I could. There are so many different guns out there and I would like to hear your opinions as to what you would buy and why. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Something like one of THESE ? Lower one is a U.S.PT.F.A. (45 Colt)...upper one is a GWII (CAL..45LC) Both purchased from pards on the SASS Wire Classifieds for under $400 apiece. Bought the first one because the price was right (came with a really NICE money belt & holster) ...picked up the GWII based on previous experience with Pietta quality. The sights on the GWII are a bit wider & easier to get on target (when I remember to actually USE them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 "Runnin Irons". Maybe its the cosmetics mixed with a good reputation but I really have been tempted to buy me a set of these in 3.5" barrels. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rube Burrows Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Something like one of THESE ? Lower one is a U.S.PT.F.A. (45 Colt)...upper one is a GWII (CAL..45LC) Both purchased from pards on the SASS Wire Classifieds for under $400 apiece. Bought the first one because the price was right (came with a really NICE money belt & holster) ...picked up the GWII based on previous experience with Pietta quality. The sights on the GWII are a bit wider & easier to get on target (when I remember to actually USE them) Yes, I do like the look of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rube Burrows Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 "Runnin Irons". Maybe its the cosmetics mixed with a good reputation but I really have been tempted to buy me a set of these in 3.5" barrels. ..........Widder Who sells the Runnin Irons? I thought it was Taylors but I dont see them on their site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Fill 'Em 67797 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Uberti Cattleman with brass gripframe or El Patron I have a pair of Uberti Regulators with color case frames and brass gripframes. They are great shooting guns and not expensive. I don't think they make the Regulator anymore. These get some style points 1875 Frontier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rube Burrows Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 I love the 1875s but was not sure if they would go in my holsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Fill 'Em 67797 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Get new holsters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I now have 5 Rugers myself; 4 Ruger Bisley Vaquero's as my main match guns plus a spare pair and another really custom Ruger Old Army with 3 1/2" barrel and birdshead grip frame, cylinder converted to 45 LC. It was my intention to use that as my pocket pistol in side matches until I really read the rule book and found out that I couldn't. So for the next gun for me I also was looking for something other than Ruger to balance out my collection. I wanted something along lines of a Colt SAA, but the price always gets me on those guys so it's a clone I'll be looking at. I'm a big fan of stainless and found the exact model I wanted. But since you stated that you prefer the color case hardened look, I did some poking around to find the same model in the finish you like and here it is from Ables Ammo http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=121426 Not a bad looking shooter at all. 3 1/2" barrel, decked out by their gunsmiths with Wolf coil springs, all steel, the finish you're looking for. I'd say this may be the one and for less than 5 hundred. Smithy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Howdy Rube. Unless I've got my name wrong (Runnin Iron), I thought it was Taylor's also. Could the name be 'Smokin Irons'? I can't find the Ad in the Chronicle. ..........Widder (not known for great memory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Ron Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Pard, I have tried a bunch of sixshooters. About every thing on the market, new, used whatever. My favorites are the ruger flattops. I know they aint new and I know they aint casecolored but darn they shoot right where they is pointed. They were made when Bill Ruger was probably still walkin the production floor and sat in a collection fer a good while. I bought em and had Coyote Cap check em out and they came back shootin even better. One thing is they are a good bit lighter than current rugers because they used more light alloys back when. You might consider weight in your selection. Happy hunting. Best CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rube Burrows Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Love those Open Tops. I have always been a fan of the Open Tops like the 51 and 60 Colts. Maybe a 72 Open Top would be fun to shoot. I think my holsters were actually made for 5.5" barrels so that might work. See, around here there are no shops for me to go in and really get a feel for the guns. I have to pretty much order what I think I want to get it in the store. Unless someone has one at a match. This will give me some ideas and when I go to our next match maybe I can find someone with what im looking for to let me get a feel for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rube Burrows Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 I now have 5 Rugers myself; 4 Ruger Bisley Vaquero's as my main match guns plus a spare pair and another really custom Ruger Old Army with 3 1/2" barrel and birdshead grip frame, cylinder converted to 45 LC. It was my intention to use that as my pocket pistol in side matches until I really read the rule book and found out that I couldn't. So for the next gun for me I also was looking for something other than Ruger to balance out my collection. I wanted something along lines of a Colt SAA, but the price always gets me on those guys so it's a clone I'll be looking at. I'm a big fan of stainless and found the exact model I wanted. But since you stated that you prefer the color case hardened look, I did some poking around to find the same model in the finish you like and here it is from Ables Ammo http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=121426 Not a bad looking shooter at all. 3 1/2" barrel, decked out by their gunsmiths with Wolf coil springs, all steel, the finish you're looking for. I'd say this may be the one and for less than 5 hundred. Smithy. Thanks Smithy. I would have to see one with a 3.5" barrel in person before I ordered one. Not sure I want that stubby look. 4 5/8 is the shortest I have seen and it still looks good to me. If I do go with a 73 style revolver the Uberti El Patron may be the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grubstake charlie Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 You may also want to look at the Alchimista sold by EMF. Based on the 1873 frame with a 1860 grip. I have Rugers (plow handle and Bisley grip) and USFA's and like them too (especially the Bisley Vaqueros). But I use the Alchimista as my main match gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Will Lee Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 * I have a couple of requirements. I want Color Case Hardening on the gun and I want them with barrels in the neighborhood of 4 5/8 so they will fit my holsters I already have. * No Rugers, I want something different this time. * No Colt or USFA....just cant swing a pair of either right now though I wish I could. Sounds like what you want something that is not an SAA in appearance. You already have a pair of those with the Rugers, why not go with something that gets some style points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stony Corbett Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I use a pair of Great Western II pistols. Stony Corbett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 different... http://www.pietta.us/products/Muzzleloadinguns/Army/gallery/Army_1860_16.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Since Rugers are the best why consider an inferior brand for a second set of guns? Of course if you want more historic you could purchased a used pair of First Gen Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rube Burrows Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Since Rugers are the best why consider an inferior brand for a second set of guns? Of course if you want more historic you could purchased a used pair of First Gen Colts. The main reason I dont buy another set of Rugers is because they stopped making the CCH finish. I HATE the new Matte Black finish Ruger is putting on their Vaqueros. I may end up looking around on the auctions and finding me a pair of CCH Rugers but thought I would ask around and see what others thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas B. Wolfson, SASS #11104 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Take a gander at the AWA Ultimates. I bought a pair here on the wire just over a year ago and they are very nice shooters. Doug does the CCH and they have the coil spring setup for the hammers. Nicely constructed guns that keep on running. I shoot a load of 17gr. of FFFFG real black. Yes, 4F, other shooters think I am shooting a 45Colt load when these are .357. The guns are smooth out of the box, very classy looking and in my case, hold up very well with no issues at all. My wife, the redhead, doesn't agree often with me, but she even says these are great shooters. Chas B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 AWA USA or EMF GW II. can't be beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Mudd Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 different... http://www.pietta.us/products/Muzzleloadinguns/Army/gallery/Army_1860_16.html Bought the short barreled .44 from Cabela's a few years ago. Stuffed it with some APP and balls. Kind of a closed in area with brush and trees for the first stage I shot with it. Targets low and close. When I first touched it off; smoke went EVERYWHERE! T/O and I laughing so hard I could hardly finish shootin' those 5 shots! What a hoot that pistola is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pee Wee #15785 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 If the barrels has to be 4 5/8" or under you are looking at Ruger, Colt, or a Colt Clone. Go to 5 1/2" barrels and you open up to open tops (51 Navy, 60 Army, ad 72), top breaks (S&W Russian and Scholfield), Remington's, Colt clones, and Colts. Right now I think the 3rd gen Colt is the best buy for SASS. Save your money and buy Colts. The Great Western II is a very good clone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Matt McCord, SASS #24683 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 AWA USA or EMF GW II. can't be beat. What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck D. Law, SASS #62183 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I happen to know where a bee-u-ti-full pair of AWA Peacekeepers are...in 44-40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 My wife and I both shoot Taylor's Runnin Irons and LOVE them. Hers are color case hardend and mine are stainless. Both got 4 5/8" barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 From an earlier posting you seemed to like my suggestion of the Uberti El Patron Mounted Shooter, Colt Clone. However you were a bit sketchy about the 3 1/2" barrel length. So I did some more digging and found one with a 4 3/4" barrel length that should fit in your holsters just fine. All other descriptions are the same as the first one I showed to you. This is also from Able's Ammo http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=116280 Hope this one fills the bill. Smithy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Hacker, #60477 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 OK, I'll paint the target on my back. You might take a look at the Beretta Stampede. A few years back , they were being blasted for timing problems that showed up in some of the early models. It didn't seem to be nearly as bad as the recalled/not recalled contraversy over the new Vaqueros when they came out, but heck, the Berettas weren't Rugers. At the time, the Stampedes could be bought readily on the Classified Wire at very reasonable prices. For the last few years, however, you'd be very hard pressed to even find a Stampede on the wire. Either the owners are satisfied, or they used them for trotline weights. Mine are being shot, and have been for 6 years. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd29/remcclellen/BerettaStampedes45x55.jpg http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd29/remcclellen/BerettaStampedes45x75.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Stoner , SASS # 28994 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I reckon I'll share the target with Mack, on the Stampedes. I was shooting old model Vaqueros and tried a friends Beretta's. I fell for them and bought 3. 5 years without a hitch. I'm still happy with mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid Loosehammer Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I just bought a new Uberti Cattleman with brass grip frame and trigger guard in 45 Colt as a backup for my two original 44 mag (44 special) Ruger Vaqueros. All are 4 1/2" barrels. One of my Rugers is polished stainless with simulted ivory grips that goes into a Black Hills R/H shoulder holster. The other Ruger is a case/blue with an aftermarket Qualite polished brass grip frame (that took me a good month to fit to the gun and polish) and that goes into a one-gun R/H gunbelt. I happen to love the look of a case/blue gun with a polished brass grip frame for a gun in a gunbelt rig. Nothing else will do. If, back in 2002 when I bought those rugers, Ruger had not offered a case/blue gun and Qualite brass grip frames had not been available, no way would I have bought Rugers. Shoulder holsters require nickle or stainless guns. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. If and when Ruger decides to offer the NMV with a casecolor frame and brass grip frame, I will again consider another Ruger. Until then, as far as I'm concerned, Ruger has nothing on the market that remotely interests me. The NMV has nothing whatsoever over a Uberti other than the coil springs, and that differnce is negligible since the Uberti leaf springs are cheap and very easy to replace. Regarding strength, the Uberti is every bit as strong as any New Vaquero. The Vaquero line gave up their strength advantage when they went to the New Vaquero. Here's a pic of the Uberti Cattleman brass http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/1873_cattleman_nm_brass_lg.jpg That brass backstrap and trigger guard are a matte finish, but one evening with a little metal polish, a rag, and lots of thumb effort will have them bright and shiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curley Cole, SASS #56849 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Great Westerns GW2 CCH Get one of these...the GW 2 with the Turnbull cch is the best around.. curley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painted Filly Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I got a pair from Cimarron... They are made by Pietta for Cimarron. Mine are 3 1/2 but you can get 4 5/8. Fit great in my holsters my other pair are NMV. They are the Thunderstorm with birds heads grips or you can get the frontier with the plow handles. The easiest place to see them are on Longhunters website but you can find them on Cimarrons as well. I love them they come with an action job so nothing needed to be done with them when i got them and the price is good. Very affordable. Call Joe at Cimarron 830-997-9090 Painted Filly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curley Cole, SASS #56849 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Old Tops Here is Old Tops home made Alchimestia. He got a pair of great westerns and ordered a couple of Pietta 1860 backstrap/tg/grips and put em on. they look and feel great. but the real Alchemista is something to feel....REALLY feel. First the trigger is wider than Colt style. Then they centered the trigger in the frame. Then the action work....it feels like a pig rollerskating on glass...it is Sooo smooth. Call Debbie at EMF and see what she can do for you... curley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Roy Stone Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Bought 2 Evil Roy cimarron's and love them, Gene was great to work with and he checked the pistols out himself to make sure that the action felt right, got them and they are smooth as butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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