Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 ~ no, this is not stirrin' the pot..... How come 'guests' on the Wire who have been participating on the Wire for over a year or so still haven't signed up to be members? I know one fella who just signed up after some time...if he can, others can. Just curious ...medical, guns, financial...etc... GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 WOW. That sounds a bit more personal than I'd wanna go into in a public setting and, to be perfectly honest, I don't see how it would be anybody's business. But then again, I've been a Life member for over 10 years now, so you weren't asking me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Well, GG, I know several shooters who have no desire to shoot anywhere except locally. Since membership is not required to shoot local matches, they see no benefit in joining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 If we apply ourselves, we too can become guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardin Morningwood Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 What does a guest membership run these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Life Guest Membership is a bargan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Personal preference I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Too little money (especially now) and not enough time (well, being unemployed, I guess I have the time, but sure don't have the money now, but time was a factor before). But when I started hanging around here, what with work, church, kids, SCA, and a few other things, I just didn't have the time. And even then, what with all the other activities, the cash would have been tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Gotta agree with my boy. Why or why not someone joins or doesn't join any organization is his business, not yours. If you were to call out someone by name - "Hey, One Dumb Shooter, why haven't you joined yet?" - he'd probably tell you to go micturate on a vertical lariat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 First off, if this question seemed personal, a person does not need to reply. Or they can simply say "It's personal"...no big deal. To Subdeacon Joe- Thank you for your polite response. To Alpo- I'll be happy to micturate on your rude post. GG~USA Flag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Well I learned something today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Well I learned something today. What did you learn, Grizz? How to pi$$ up a rope? Gotta love how some of these threads twist and turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 The definition of micturate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 ayup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I larned that early on, Grizz. Mom was good at changing my diaper too. Not so much any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 oh, I learned how to do it right off, just learned a new term for it today. Of course in 5 or 10 minutes I will have forgotten it. LOOK! Something shiney! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 The only thing that irks me with some guests (especially brand new ones) is if they start to tell us how SASS matches should be run, what the WB should do to improve things, complain about the rules, etc. I figure you should probably ante up if you want a voice. Other than that, like I said, it's a personal choice and I don't put much stock in whether or not someone has a number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse River Kid #16901 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 The definition of micturate? Right!!! That's a new one to me, but I'm just a dumb grunt lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hand Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 The expense of SASS at $55 a year. $4.50 month, that's one Starbucks coffee a month less $1.05 a week, that's 1 convenience store coffee a week less $0.15 a day, do you really believe you can't come up with $0.15 a day extra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCatcher Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 The only thing that irks me with some guests (especially brand new ones) is if they start to tell us how SASS matches should be run, what the WB should do to improve things, complain about the rules, etc. I figure you should probably ante up if you want a voice. Other than that, like I said, it's a personal choice and I don't put much stock in whether or not someone has a number. Funny - I find it the other way around. Guests mostly have a habit of being curious and inquisitive, so they will ask why do it this way versus another. Most of the time (mind you - I said MOST), I find out that they're trying to understand the underlying reason, and they hope it's other than "That's the way it is!". They want a reason why this new strange thing is what it is . . . . What I find intolerable is the busy body who thinks he knows more than others, and even invents his own rules at a whim, because he's been around . . . It's down right rude when I've been doing this (maybe) longer, and (maybe) better, yet still they have to explain to me what they KNOW to be TRUTH - doncha know. This mostly happens when you're a stranger in a strange land . . . . I like to help others - when they ask for it. I feel it's rude to project my opinion and recommendations onto others until I'm asked. Guest's rarely tell me how to correct what I'm doing, although they may want to recommend doing things in a way they are already comfortable with . . . . Shadow Catcher As for becoming a member and changing their registration - Given some of the things I've seen on the boards in the past, I'd have a few issues about it too . . . . But I was a cowboy before SASS had a web site (I think), at least long before I knew of it . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Winter is over, lets all go shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 dumb grunt Redundant Sorry Kid, the shot was there, I had to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 The only thing that irks me with some guests (especially brand new ones) is if they start to tell us how SASS matches should be run, what the WB should do to improve things, complain about the rules, etc. I figure you should probably ante up if you want a voice. Other than that, like I said, it's a personal choice and I don't put much stock in whether or not someone has a number. As I mentioned in my previous post that if a person feels that this is a personal question, they need not reply. Just sayin'. And unfortunately the (guests) that you've mentioned in your post don't have manners. (sometimes we members don't either) Interesting thoughts pard. GG~USA FLAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 To Subdeacon Joe- Thank you for your polite response. GG~USA Flag My pleasure. I saw the way you phrased your title and question as a friendly insult/challenge, not as anything mean spirited. And some real curiosity behind it. The expense of SASS at $55 a year. $4.50 month, that's one Starbucks coffee a month less $1.05 a week, that's 1 convenience store coffee a week less $0.15 a day, do you really believe you can't come up with $0.15 a day extra? Can it be sent in in two week installments? Does that include guns, ammo, leather gear, and travel expense? As I mentioned in my first post in this thread, with other things going on, that 55 bucks, plus the gear and such can be a crunch. When I found this site I was looking for information on the ballistics of the 38-55, got helped with it, and found a few threads that I could make helpful comments on. And a lot of like minded people -history buffs, gun nuts, cooks, costumers to name a few. I've learned a few things and hope that I have been able to pass on helpful hints and information. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Funny - I find it the other way around. Guests mostly have a habit of being curious and inquisitive, so they will ask why do it this way versus another. Most of the time (mind you - I said MOST), I find out that they're trying to understand the underlying reason, and they hope it's other than "That's the way it is!". They want a reason why this new strange thing is what it is . . . . What I find intolerable is the busy body who thinks he knows more than others, and even invents his own rules at a whim, because he's been around . . . It's down right rude when I've been doing this (maybe) longer, and (maybe) better, yet still they have to explain to me what they KNOW to be TRUTH - doncha know. This mostly happens when you're a stranger in a strange land . . . . I like to help others - when they ask for it. I feel it's rude to project my opinion and recommendations onto others until I'm asked. Guest's rarely tell me how to correct what I'm doing, although they may want to recommend doing things in a way they are already comfortable with . . . . Shadow Catcher As for becoming a member and changing their registration - Given some of the things I've seen on the boards in the past, I'd have a few issues about it too . . . . But I was a cowboy before SASS had a web site (I think), at least long before I knew of it . . . . I was speaking of the few people who create ill feelings within a few minutes of joining the wire. I agree most of the gustst are well behaved. But so are most of the SASS members. Of the thousands registerd on the Wire only a relative handful get rude and pompous. Thank goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hand Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 My pleasure. I saw the way you phrased your title and question as a friendly insult/challenge, not as anything mean spirited. And some real curiosity behind it. Can it be sent in in two week installments? Does that include guns, ammo, leather gear, and travel expense? As I mentioned in my first post in this thread, with other things going on, that 55 bucks, plus the gear and such can be a crunch. When I found this site I was looking for information on the ballistics of the 38-55, got helped with it, and found a few threads that I could make helpful comments on. And a lot of like minded people -history buffs, gun nuts, cooks, costumers to name a few. I've learned a few things and hope that I have been able to pass on helpful hints and information. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. You couldn't come up with your gear in 8 yrs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Not every one has a burning desire to shoot. As soon as I found out about SASS, nothing was going to keep me from shootin. Neither rain nor snow nor gloom of night nor lack of money. I was obsessed with it. Absolutely consumed. I schemed and scrimped and pinched pennies to get gear and guns. But you have to have the need. You have to feel the compulsion. Not everyone does and that's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 You couldn't come up with your gear in 8 yrs? If I had dropped other things, yeah, I could have. Or if my wife hadn't been unemployed since late 07. Or even if I haven't been out of work for two years now (the county I'm in has close to 20% unemployment - and, yes, I'm applying for anything that I may be remotely qualified for - get a lot of "gee..you are over qualified" which means "we want a teen that we can pay minimum wage to." Hell, I'll take minimum wage! be happy to have it). I've been selling of guns for a few years now to make ends meet. And likely I would have sold off the leather gear before I sold some of the guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hand Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 If I had dropped other things, yeah, I could have. Or if my wife hadn't been unemployed since late 07. Or even if I haven't been out of work for two years now (the county I'm in has close to 20% unemployment - and, yes, I'm applying for anything that I may be remotely qualified for - get a lot of "gee..you are over qualified" which means "we want a teen that we can pay minimum wage to." Hell, I'll take minimum wage! be happy to have it). I've been selling of guns for a few years now to make ends meet. And likely I would have sold off the leather gear before I sold some of the guns. It's fortunate you are still able to afford internet service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 It's fortunate you are still able to afford internet service. Yep...for now. It really helps with job searching, ya know? In fact, CA EDD required that I set up an account on their site so I could search, and hit it at least once a month (check it every morning for new listings - I suppose I could drive about 40 miles to the EDD office). Many companies, even small ones, have all their job postings online. It isn't a luxury. I guess I'm also lucky my truck hasn't been repoed. Or that I can eat more than rice and beans. I give honest answers, and I get flak, and snooty sounding flak at that, for it. This is the first time I haven't felt welcome here, like somehow I'm not worthy, ya know? "You couldn't come up with your gear in 8 yrs?" real freaking friendly, isn't it. Well excuse me for having some things that I considered more important than doing CAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hand Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 2,640 posts, been on the wire almost as long as I have but can't come up with the where with all to help support it. Can't afford to play the game, feel unwelcome because someone doesn't feel sorry for you. Suppose the best thing you can do would be put me on your "ignore" list then you won't be irritated by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Hawk 60642 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 oh, I learned how to do it right off, just learned a new term for it today. Of course in 5 or 10 minutes I will have forgotten it. LOOK! Something shiney! Hey Grizz, you are talkin bout a rope......RIGHT ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I get to shoot a lot. I vend at S.A.S.S. matches and am a member at three (soon to be four or five) clubs. I can relate to SDJ's situation. I see many young shooters and more on fixed incomes who are no longer able to shoot regularly, and some who have had to drop out and sell their stuff to stay in their homes or keep their kids fed. It ain't a damn (sorry for the explitive) bit funny and to chide or tease someone for their situation is downright mean in my opinion. I have a good friend who recently had to sell all of his CAS equipment to make a couple more house notes. SDJ has supported CAS and S.A.S.S. the best he could and to my knowledge has never teased or talked down to anyone here. The benefiet of the doubt is his as far as I'm concerned. Let's just say that each of us has their opinion of how to support and participate, and should continue to do so to the best of their ability!! I do not intend to or wish to offend anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 4 Paws Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 oh, I learned how to do it right off, just learned a new term for it today. Of course in 5 or 10 minutes I will have forgotten it. LOOK! Something shiney! SQUIRREL!!! B4P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Thanks, Blackwater. I do have to fess up to teasing my evil twin step-brother Grizz from time to time. As well as BMC. I get to shoot a lot. I vend at S.A.S.S. matches and am a member at three (soon to be four or five) clubs. I can relate to SDJ's situation. I see many young shooters and more on fixed incomes who are no longer able to shoot regularly, and some who have had to drop out and sell their stuff to stay in their homes or keep their kids fed. It ain't a damn (sorry for the explitive) bit funny and to chide or tease someone for their situation is downright mean in my opinion. I have a good friend who recently had to sell all of his CAS equipment to make a couple more house notes. SDJ has supported CAS and S.A.S.S. the best he could and to my knowledge has never teased or talked down to anyone here. The benefiet of the doubt is his as far as I'm concerned. Let's just say that each of us has their opinion of how to support and participate, and should continue to do so to the best of their ability!! I do not intend to or wish to offend anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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