Smithy Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I read the barrel length concerns on another thread and did not want to steal that thread. It mentioned mounted vs. ground shooting and short barrels and such and the gun in particular I was interested in purchasing comes from Ables. It's an Uberti El Patron "Mounted" revolver. http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=121430 with a 3 1/2" barrel length and the rest as you see posted from Ables. Would this gun be legal or not? Smithy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Looking at the picture it looks like it is just a regular Uberti with a 3 1/2" barrel. It's legal. There's nothing in the rules about how long or short a revolver barrel can be. (There are some requirements for side match guns, but we are talking about main match.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Here's a PIC of the "El Patron" CMS model from Uberti's website. It's LEGAL for action shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Dick, SASS #12880 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I've seen some guns for mounted shooters with checkering on the grip frame which would not be legal for "ground shooters." You can't tell from the photos, but I am sure they would list it as a feature if it had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiowa Kid, SASS #69870L Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Yes it is Legal, but check around that price seems a bit high. KK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Yes it is Legal, but check around that price seems a bit high. KK Uberti's MSRP for the SS version in .45 Colt is $749.00 Able's price is less than that. FWIW - The pic I posted was of the B/CH model. (list is $599.00) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying W Ramrod Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Is this a colt clone or NMV clone or something new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Is this a colt clone or NMV clone or something new? Colt clone...Uberti "Cattleman" with factory 'action job'; Wolff springs; wider sights & lowered hammer spur. LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucson Jim Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Quick suggestion here...the Uberti "El Patron" is their highest finish level. They sell guns also made to that spec to Cimarron where it gets the "Evil Roy" label, and to Taylor's where it's a "Smokewagon" or "Running Iron" depending on the hammer style. All basically the same Uberti gun at the same quality/finish level. Cimarron does some additional hand-tuning stateside and it's one of the best possible Ubertis. Longhunter takes the Taylor versions and hand-tunes them himself before shipping 'em to you. Here's the "Running Iron" with the newly-legal lower hammer more or less similar to the Ruger SuperBlackhawk/Montado style hammer - note that it's available in the short barrel you want: http://www.longhunt.com/taylor/runniniron.htm And here's the traditional hammer type: http://www.longhunt.com/taylor/smokewagon.htm I don't know which barrel lengths are offered on the Smokewagon, wouldn't surprise me if he could get them with 3.5" tubes. The lower hammer type is particularly valuable if you're shooting one of the one-hand-per-wheelgun classes, or are a "strong side thumber" as opposed to an "off-hand cocker". The lower hammers also help if you're doing the "pinkie under" hold, which works very well for a lot of folks. My NewVaq357 has had this sort of lower hammer for years now. If you don't like the lower hammer, I'd be willing to bet Longhunter could get you the standard hammer and ship it to you at a fair price so...you're not out a lot. Actually...if you do that, you can probably sell the lower hammer here on the Wire for decent coin so...yeah, shouldn't be any risk at all. Talk to Longhunter about this, if you're not sure about the low hammer. Note the prices - and these guns are every bit the equal of an Evil Roy, and once Longhunter gets done with 'em they far exceed an Uberti El Patron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 Thanks a bunch folks for all the information! I just was not sure after the questions had been raised on the other thread. So the big deal is if there is checkering on the back or fore strap (excuse spelling) which would keep it in "mounted shooting" departments, and not ground. I think I get it now. Smithy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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