Whiskey James SASS 85199 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Howdy All, Wondering what the stats were on the reals things. Everything from the .32's to the big Buffalo rounds. I've heard .45LC were usually 250gr at 850fps, I believe. Thanks Whiskey James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Windshadow Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 well a 45-90 with a 520 gr paper patched slug from a 32" barrel winchester 1885 will be trundling along at 1350 to 1400 fps using a full case of ff swiss note that load so assembled will have a tough time being compressed enough to cycle through a n 1886 action so would need a single shot to accept its overall length I doubt many black powder rounds got above say 1600 or 1700 fps given the use of lyman #2 aloy if you do push it faster you get leadding problems which require harder alloys not seen in many old loading charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 WJ To get all the stats in one place, I would suggest you pick up a copy of "Cartages of the World " . It is a real good referance book on all kinds of cartages , About $30 or so . It also has a section on cart. ID by rim type and mesurements , good thing for figguring out what something is (cal) from a chamber cast . CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I've found Wikipedia to have some pretty fair info. It may not always be 100 percent correct, but it is often close. 45 Colt For example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 well a 45-90 with a 520 gr paper patched slug from a 32" barrel winchester 1885 will be trundling along at 1350 to 1400 fps using a full case of ff swiss note that load so assembled will have a tough time being compressed enough to cycle through a n 1886 action so would need a single shot to accept its overall length I doubt many black powder rounds got above say 1600 or 1700 fps given the use of lyman #2 aloy if you do push it faster you get leadding problems which require harder alloys not seen in many old loading charts The only way a 520 gr. bullet will work in ".45-90" is if the rifling is faster than the standard Winchester 1-in-32" twist, say at least 1-in-22 or faster. The faster twist, with the same cartridge case would be termed ".45-2.4 in. Sharps Straight". Some of the so-called Express rounds (lighter bullets with slow-twist barrels, such as the .45-90-300 WCF and .40-82-260 WCF) could push 1500 from a long barrel. Yes, commercial loads of .45 Colt used 250-255 gr bullets at around 850 ft/sec. But the standard military load was .45-30-230, after the .45-250-40 loading proved too hot for the original iron cylinders of the initial order of Colt's Single Action Army's, and troops complained of the recoil. IIRC, the .45-30-230 left a 7-1/2" barrel around 730 ft/sec. The shorter .45 Revolver Ball round used in both the Schofield and later issued to troops with their Colt's, was a .45-28-230 load at 710 ft/sec. from a 7-inch barrel. Ride easy, but stay alert! Godspeed to those still in harm's way in the defense of Freedom everywhere! God Bless America! Your Pard, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Windshadow Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 My 45-90 1885 is a modern version that Winchester has made in japan and the barrel on the BPCR version I have is actually made in the US and stabilizes a heavy slug quite well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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