Mustang Gregg Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Recollect in them old westerns where they talked about their six-shooters with "hair triggers"? We got them 30 oz trigger return springs in all of our Blackhawks & Vaqueros, so I'd reckon that's about that their pull weight is. They work just fine for all of our outfit. But what do other Pards have their triggers set at? Mustang Gregg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Pistols started at two pounds. After thousands of rounds they now measure a bit less. Wife's are at about three pounds or a mite less. All rifles are about three pounds. Never ever measured shotgun triggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shapiro Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 The triggers on my revolvers are about 3/4 pound, or were when measured last. Rifle is about 1 1/2. No idea about the SG's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adirondack Jack, SASS #53440 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Weigh as in accurately? NO, but I set em so I can lift the gun from the bench by the trigger, when held vertically, muzzle down, and it JUST trips before the gun lifts off the table. That puts it at about 2 1/2 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diablo slim shootist Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 well one set are 1.85 lbs-to light for most people AD are common with less than that for a lot of shooters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc McGee, SASS #51213 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 My .45 Rugers, after a bit of spring work, are between 2.5 and 3.0 lb. If one comes up less than that, it is too light for my ham fingers. Never did measure rifle or shotgun. Doc McGee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Howdy Measuring trigger pull is not as straight forward as one might think. The trigger of a single action revolver, a lever gun, or a shotgun for that matter is just a simple lever. It pivots on a pin or a screw, and one end is formed into the sear, which when slid out of the full cock notch allows the hammer to fall. Even with a two piece trigger as on some rifles, the trigger itself is still a simple lever, pushing a separate sear piece. With all levers, the amount of force required to do a set amount of work, will vary with where on the lever the force is applied. We all remember shifting position on a teeter-totter to keep a playmate suspended in the air. A trigger is no different. Pull it at the tip, and it will require less force, but more travel, to trip the hammer. Pull it in the center, where our finger may tend to center itself, and there will be less travel, but more force required. Although a trigger may be curved, and tend to center the finger, the same may not be true with the narrow hook of a trigger gauge. Depending on how you hold the gun, and where the hook is positioned, the result may not be consistent. And don't forget that lightening the hammer spring will also result in a lighter trigger pull. This is because lightening the spring results in the full cock notch bearing down on the top of the sear with less force. This in turn means less friction has to be overcome for the sear to slide out of the notch. That means less effort to pull the trigger. Now..........having said all that, yes, I have measured the trigger pull on several of my revolvers, and I like them right around 2 1/2 pounds. I am uncomfortable with much less. Too easy to have an AD in the heat of battle. I am reminded of the quote from Have Gun Will Travel where the main character claims his revolver has a one ounce trigger pull. Surely an AD waiting to happen. Also, the figment of a script writer's imagination. Regarding assuming what the trigger pull actually is because a spring has been changed, without measuring it, that is just a wild guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 These are all measured with NRA trigger weights: My Vaqueros measure at 2 pounds and 2.25 pounds. My AWA (SAA clones) both measure at 2 pounds. My Springfield 1911 measures 4.5 pounds. My custom made Caspian 1911 measures at 3.5 pounds and *VERY* crisp Those are the only ones I've ever bothered to measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Mine are at 40 oz. + or - ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Greg, I keep a data chart as part of my firearms inventory, including trigger pulls for all my firearms: revolvers - rifles and shotguns. Here are the bore-groove - twist - sight height - sight radius and trigger pulls for the CAS stuff: EMF M1892 -24" 45 Colt 443 447 1:16 0.5000 21 1/4 2# 14oz Puma 1892 -20" 45 Colt 443 449 1:16 0.5785 16 4/7 4# 6oz Uberti M1866 45 Colt 443 448 1:16 3# 8oz Uberti M1860 45 Colt 441 448 1:16 0.4990 21 5/8 8# Cimarron Thunderer-5.5" 45 Colt 442 448 1:16 0.5540 6 3/4 1# 5oz Taurus Thunderbolt 45 Colt 443 448 1:16 0.4320 xxxxx 1 line= 5MOA 4# 7oz Uberti M1873 Cattleman-4 5/8" 45 Colt 443 448 1:16 0.5605 6 3/4 2# 6oz Ruger SSBH-4 5/8 45 Colt 442 448 1:16 0.5640 5 5/8 3# 5oz Ruger SSBH-4 5/8 45 Colt 442 448 1:16 0.5090 5 5/8 3# 7oz Shotguns Parkerhurst 1901 External Hammer 12ga Left 5# 13oz Right 5# 1oz TriStar Turkey Special 12ga M&F Left 4#4oz Right 4#6oz Barrels - Single Rebounding Trigger All trigger pulls are original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olen Rugged Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Recollect in them old westerns where they talked about their six-shooters with "hair triggers"? We got them 30 oz trigger return springs in all of our Blackhawks & Vaqueros, so I'd reckon that's about that their pull weight is. They work just fine for all of our outfit. But what do other Pards have their triggers set at? Mustang Gregg Nope, mainly 'cause I don't have anything resembling a trigger "pull", more like a "yank". Olen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Two "Uberti Cattlemen" both at 28 oz. (From the box one was at 32 Oz. the other was 28 Oz.) after about 25,000 rounds the trigger/bolt spring broke on the gun with the 32 Oz. trigger and was replaced with a "Wolf" spring,,, Leaving both guns with the same 28 Oz. triggers with no creep or over-travel ... Both guns will shoot less than 2 inch groups at 25 yards with an even dozen loads ... "Uberti 1858" Remmie from the box 60 Oz, now at 36 Oz. ... Accurate Under 3 inches at 75 yards from a "Ransom Rest"... "Uberti Opentop" 32 Oz. trigger out of the box .... Only tried one load in it so far, but it shoots this load under 2 inches at 25 yards .... After 3,000 rounds the trigger is at 30 Oz. Ruger NMV 48 Oz. out of the box ,,,, seldom used by me Back-up/loaner gun ... Shoots under 2 1/4 inches at 25 yards ... "Pietta 1861/62" 66 Oz. from the box ..... Afer Retiming,Refitting Arbour and wedge,Refacing barrel square,smoothing the hammer spring and removing and smoothing all internals .... trigger is at 36 Oz. Gun is lucky to keep all 5 shots on a sheet of 8 1/2 x 11 paper at 10 yards ... "Pietta 1858" that I used to own 9 pound + trigger pull from the box, after a complete smoothing of all internals, Recutting SEAR and reducing Hammer spring ,,,,,, it's at 42 Oz. now ... The best this gun has ever done at 25 yards from a "Ransom Rest" was 3 inches for 5 shots ... "ASM" 1862 "Baby Remmie" 40 Oz. trigger from the box ,,,,,, will keep all 5 of it's .31 cal balls in a 6 inch square at 10 yards shot "Duelist".... Hope this helps ... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Mike #8595 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 yUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Hi Gregg, At about my second match, I had two ADs. A friendly cowboy asked to see my "offending pistol." Turned out it had less than a pound TP. I think they are about 2.5 pounds now. Hair triggers are scary, for me anyway. Regards, Allie Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Good triggers are a joy to use ,,,, I prefer triggers with little creep or overtravel between 25 and 36 Oz. ...On pistols For CAS. Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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