Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Any CT pards have an update on this? Connecticut Magazine Ban to be Heard in Committee this Wednesday; Bill Sponsor Calls Gun Owners CriminalsMarch 18, 2011 By nssfnews “Legislation (HB 1094) that would ban the possession of any magazine (rifle, pistol or shotgun) capable of holding more than 10 rounds will be heard in the Joint Committee on the Judiciary this Wednesday, March 23, 2011. The National Shooting Sports Foundation is urging all gun owners, sportsmen and hunters to attend Wednesday’s public hearing to be held in the Legislative Office Building in Room 2C at 10:00 A.M. and to contact their state representative, senator and all members of the Judiciary Committee immediately, urging them to oppose this magazine ban. Earlier this week, at the Connecticut Bar Association Seminar on Firearms Law at the Quinnipiac University School of Law, State Senator Edward Meyer (D) addressed this proposed legislation. After noting his support for the bill and that he believed it would easily pass, Meyer volunteered that the only reason to have ‘high’ capacity magazines is “for criminal purposes.” That’s right — if you have a magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds, this state senator, and many others who will vote on this measure next Wednesday, already think you’re a criminal. If this bill passes, law-abiding gun owners will have to begin surrendering their magazines by July, or face confiscation by the state police and a felony charge. Again, this proposal would not only ban the sale of these magazines, but would make simple possession a felony. Any gun owner (including off-duty police officers) found in possession of any magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds will be in violation of this proposed law, regardless of whether it was legally purchased. This draconian measure will also affect non-gun owners as all Connecticut tax payers will be forced to foot the bill for the extraordinary process of having police confiscate — from law-abiding citizens — the millions of magazines already in the state. Making matters worse, manufacturers including Colt, C Products, Mec-Gar, OKAY Industries and Metalform will be directly affected by this legislation. That means a loss of jobs and tax revenue to the state. Arbitrarily limiting magazine capacity and threatening law-abiding gun owners with confiscation and felony charges is beyond the pale. These magazines are utilized every day for home defense and the shooting sports. As part of the 1994 “Assault Weapons” ban, the production of higher capacity magazines was halted. This gun-control strategy soon proved to be a failure. A comprehensive study by the Centers for Disease Control — hardly a pro-gun entity — looked at the full panoply of gun-control measures, including this ban, and concluded that none could be proven to reduce crime. Another study, commissioned by Congress, found that bans were not effective since “the banned weapons and magazines were never used in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders.” http://www.nssfblog.com/connecticut-...t+Relations%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Steel Duke Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Silly silly people. Please never let them watch any old footage of Jeff Cooper with a wheel gun and speed loaders BSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Silly silly people. Please never let them watch any old footage of Jeff Cooper with a wheel gun and speed loaders BSD Don't let them see any videos of Badlands Bud, Sidekick or T-Bone Dooley in action, or they'll be outlawing guns from the 1800s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 We've already got a 10 round limit...and an "assault weapons" ban...and a ban on mail order ammo and components...and a limited list of handguns that are considered "safe enough" to be owned by citizens (excluding just about every new cowboy handgun except Rugers and C&B revolvers). I'll tell ya, it really wears you down; if you CT pards still have the strength, fight it as hard as you can...there's no going back. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I guess that would ban many of our CAS lever action rifles since they hold more than 10 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I guess that would ban many of our CAS lever action rifles since they hold more than 10 rounds. Sssshhhhhhhhh....please!!!!!!!! LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tennessee Stud, SASS# 43634 Life Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Magazine ban- Connecticutt Oh no! Hopefully not Playboy!! (just joshin'... for folks who don't understand my sense of humor) ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 This is so stupid. The definition of Connecticut gun laws? Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome. For the sake of argument let’s say all hi –cap over 10 rd mags are banned and confiscated. The only thing available is 10 rounders. What happens now is one of these wingnuts like the AZ shooter shows up with 2,3 even 4 guns shooting one in each hand and grabbing another when it runs dry. That’s still 40 rounds. And this is not new. This is exactly what some confederate raids did. Some of those rebs had 5 or 6 1851’s (at least the brass frame Griswald version) on their belts. The solution is and has always been arm the lawbiding citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cemetery Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I guess that would ban many of our CAS lever action rifles since they hold more than 10 rounds. Sssshhhhhhhhh....please!!!!!!!! LL If you read the Federal bills, they in fact will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turquoise Bill, SASS #39118 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 As a former CT resident this is again a solution to a non-problem. The legislator who introduced this bill and is pushing it is Martin Looney, its rather appropriate. The CT legislature is full of liberal Democrats, they control both houses. Hopefully my CT pards will make their voices heard to the legislators with some common sense. Here is the data on the bill. It would require the surrender of any magazines over 10 rounds making a felon out of someone who does not turn their existing magazines in. Its crazy. http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6440 Glad I'm in AZ now. TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Any of you CT pards that have to unload those high capacity magazines can send them to me in the free state of Georgia. I'll let you use them whenever you come visit. No charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Graham, # 26112 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 <sigh> It's always something. Every year we go through this. Ban this gun. You can only buy one per month. Pay each time you get a new gun to have it registered to your permit. Lawsuits against gun clubs for being "toxic water dumps" or breaking noise rules. Ban some other gun. Put serial numbers on the ammo. It just goes on and on and on......... We rally up, send cards and letters, visit the state house and do all the usual things. We have been pretty successful so far. It's a ritual of springtime here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Here is the data on the bill. It would require the surrender of any magazines over 10 rounds making a felon out of someone who does not turn their existing magazines in. Its crazy. http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6440 Silly question, but with regard to already owned mags, wouldn't banning them be an ex post facto law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Silly question, but with regard to already owned mags, wouldn't banning them be an ex post facto law? Yes, but when has that ever stopped a politician. Coffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Silly question, but with regard to already owned mags, wouldn't banning them be an ex post facto law? Not exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Nathan C. Riddles, SASS # 7462 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 If the gun manufacturers in Connecticut had any sense at all they would pack up all their equipment & move out lock, stock & barrel to Tx, Az, NM, Tn, Ga, or any of a number of states that do not have overly restrictive gun laws & would welcome them with open arms. Of course taking any employees, who wanted to move, with them. Perhaps that would teach their simpleton legislators a lesson. Afterall, if they lost the major gun makers such as Colt, USFA & others it would take a big bite out of the local economy. Some of those dimwits never heard the phrase "Don't bite the hand that feeds you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 If the gun manufacturers in Connecticut had any sense at all they would pack up all their equipment & move out lock, stock & barrel to Tx, Az, NM, Tn, Ga, or any of a number of states that do not have overly restrictive gun laws & would welcome them with open arms. Of course taking any employees, who wanted to move, with them. Perhaps that would teach their simpleton legislators a lesson. Afterall, if they lost the major gun makers such as Colt, USFA & others it would take a big bite out of the local economy. Some of those dimwits never heard the phrase "Don't bite the hand that feeds you." Right on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 There have been comments in the area of California not necessarily leading the pact when it comes to gun law legislation. I can't help but think that this might be an example of just the opposite in action as we have had the no more than 10 round magazine ban for quite some time now. Then the feds jumped on board and when the fed law met its sunset we had a chance to eliminate our ban but did not, seemingly keeping it forever. Best of luck to you folks. I truly hope that you don't fall down the same hole we Californians have fallen down. Smithy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 With thinkin' like that, how did them Yankees win the War? LL' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 If the gun manufacturers in Connecticut had any sense at all they would pack up all their equipment & move out lock, stock & barrel to Tx, Az, NM, Tn, Ga, or any of a number of states that do not have overly restrictive gun laws & would welcome them with open arms. Of course taking any employees, who wanted to move, with them. Perhaps that would teach their simpleton legislators a lesson. Afterall, if they lost the major gun makers such as Colt, USFA & others it would take a big bite out of the local economy. Some of those dimwits never heard the phrase "Don't bite the hand that feeds you." Those seem like warm states, and if'n they made a good 'moving' package for their employees who wanted to move there - wouldn't be a bad move GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Nathan C. Riddles, SASS # 7462 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Well Gunner a lot are warm & most would give a warm reception to any company bringing jobs into the state. Some states such as Tx & Fla have no state income tax either. Just another thing to sweeten the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisler Wood Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uisHfKj2JiI Probably shouldn't show them these either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisler Wood Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Or this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Any CT pards have an update on this? To answer your question, it is still in committee and there is a public hearing on it tomorrow. I just re-read the law and it specifies DETACHABLE feeding devices of over 10 rounds. Also, if passed, possession of a detachable feeding device of over 10 rounds is a Class D felony and we have 90 days to dispose of anything that holds more then 10 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Steel Duke Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Here's an example of the "new math" in Connecticut. 30 X 0 = 30 10 X 2 = 10? 10 X 3 = 10? 10 X 4 = Well, you get the idea BSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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